Thread: Cost of Immigration

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

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The same estate as the series Shameless is filmed. It's on Youtube if you want a look.

Originally Posted by Robski

your just a punter and a bitter one with no prospects at that.

I'm not bitter at all.

As for prospects, I have achieved everything I wanted to in life so your point's invalid. Everything I achieve from now on is a bonus.

Go cuddle up to your third-world prostitute & think of some more slogans, you cheeky monkey.

But you are just a punter. Look up irony and then read your post again.
Anyway where is this hell hole that your lifes acheivement has landed you in?

Originally Posted by stroller

Sounds like you don't have the right contacts. Lots of good home-grown sold by Brit folks. It's a different scene from brown or rock, you don't buy it in the street. I suspect the decent dopers don't want to know you.

How would you know?

Originally Posted by Robski

But you are just a punter

What do you mean by a punter? It has several meanings & none of them fit me.

Well you're never going to be a big player are you, you're a punter, you just buy what your given and do what your told.
Now then, what is the name of that shithole you live in? Are you having trouble remembering? Weed'll do that to you.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

And what the hell is this "elite" stuff you're banging on about? I'm never even seen TV so you're going to have to explain it to me.

I've explained it already.

I believe, from what I saw on TV, bear in mind I could be wrong, that it is viewed that TD is a forum where only a few posters get involved because if you're not part of the in crowd, then your opinion counts for shit.

I've heard the same thing said about TV on this forum, but don't pay it much attention as what happens on other forums are of little interest to me.

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

But the truth is you don't know the ins & outs of it all, so stop pretending you do - you're opinion is worth exactly the same as mine. Probably less, if you take into account experience & not qualifications.

No you're right. I'm a lawyer that works for an English Co., handles the HR, and I have no ideas about the in's & out's of Employment Law compared to you and your subjective stories

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

You work in Thailand, so how can you possibly know what the employment law is over here - besides Googling it?

Read what I just posted above. Twice, if you have to.

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Have you ever even been to the UK? Don't let it stop you quoting how the law of the land works if you haven't.

Yup, several times. It's where our head office is. You know, for the English Co. that I work for. Make that three re-reads.

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

What's the big deal about spending 40p on a brew, anyway?

Exactamundo. What is the big deal!

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I believe, from what I saw on TV, bear in mind I could be wrong, that it is viewed that TD is a forum where only a few posters get involved because if you're not part of the in crowd, then your opinion counts for shit.

Well then I certainly can't be part of the elite 'in-crowd', I've been jailed twice and am on my final warning!

Originally Posted by Robski

Well you're never going to be a big player are you

I don't want to be.

Ever hear the saying small fish/big pond. I'm happy as I am. I'm actually quite successful in my own right & I don't have to lord it over other people to make myself feel good, as you do.

I live in West Gorton.

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Looking at it now, it sounds a bit silly, but you must see what I'm getting at?

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

They aren't contributing to anything, not just the vending machines. They send most of their money home in a lot of cases & this was all about contributing to the UK economy, wasn't it?

So, they are employed illegally, not paying taxes and insurance contributions?
Don't they buy anything in the UK, paying VAT and other taxes, don't they rent accomodation or use transport?

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

... then your opinion counts for shit.

I think if you mean the opinion of the Daily Mail, then you could be right.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Well then I certainly can't be part of the elite 'in-crowd', I've been jailed twice and am on my final warning!

As for what I said about employment law, I stand corrected. I was wrong.

As for this Elite, I don't believe you are part of it, AR. You have always engaged me in proper debate & despite the heat we sometimes generate I never feel as though you are talking down to me - unlike the TD Freemasons

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

& despite the heat we sometimes generate

Oooh, saucy!

Originally Posted by stroller

Don't they buy anything in the UK, paying VAT and other taxes

Everybody does. Do they deserve some sort of special recognition for it?

don't they rent accomodation

Yes & no. They have flats - but the rent & council tax is paid by the DHSS. They also get Sky TV for free. It's a very grey area.
It is interesting to note that a traumatised soldier coming back from Iraq, who isn't capable of working or whatever because of the hard time they had in the war doesn't get an automatic right to a council house & either has to sleep on the streets or live off donations from the Poppy Fund.

How can that be right? The priorities are all wrong.

or use transport?

Sure they do. You'll be hard pushed to find a Romanian with up-to-date tax & insurance on his car though.

This link is Greater Manchester Radio & it is on air now, as we speak. The debate is immigration.

BBC - Manchester

If you can be bothered click on Listen Live/Allen Beswick. It's on the right hand side. Maybe you could have it as background while you use the board.

That is the actual situation the people of Manchester are in.

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The "Elite".
Yet another topic you're talking out of your arse about.

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Originally Posted by Robski

Back to slogans already, you bag of monkey spunk?

Might as well, obviously having a balanced and realistic, let alone intelligent, conversation with you is impossible.

Yes & no. They have flats - but the rent & council tax is paid by the DHSS. They also get Sky TV for free. It's a very grey area.

Immigrants who are working here pay rent for their accomodation and nobody gets Sky for free.

It is interesting to note that a traumatised soldier coming back from Iraq, who isn't capable of working or whatever because of the hard time they had in the war doesn't get an automatic right to a council house & either has to sleep on the streets or live off donations from the Poppy Fund.

Again this is a purely emotive fabrication, no doubt as told by the Daily Mail.

Can you find some evidence to substantiate these claims?

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Everybody does. Do they deserve some sort of special recognition for it?

No, but then it is not correct to say they contribute nothing.
And what about those who pay taxes and insurance contributions?

Originally Posted by stroller

And what about those who pay taxes and insurance contributions?

They get their kids educated, free healthcare, housing, grants & benefits that would make Frank Gallagher proud, so let's stop with this contributing nonsense.

They take a lot more than they put in & will do so for many years until they - then their children - have paid in a good few quid.

How come there is no money to treat cancer patients (£3000 a month) but there are literally billions for these guys?

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

How come there is no money to treat cancer patients (£3000 a month) but there are literally billions for these guys?

I suppose you can back this statement up, or is it yet something else you read somewhere but can't remember or can't be arsed to look for?

Originally Posted by Robski

Can you find some evidence to substantiate these claims?

Yes. Can't you? It's too easy to sit & demand links, then when I provide them, to go onto a different subject altogether & start demanding links for that, so I'm not humouring you looking for something you can find on the first page of Google yourself.

I've provided plenty of links in this thread already.

Robski, you have shown your pleasure in life lies in telling people you are better than they are,

Please point out where.

so any debate with you whatsover is a waste of time. You belong in a playground.

I think that statment is more true of you.

I have owned you several times already on this board & have no inclination to humour you by doing it again.

As proven by this statement.

Owned!? Do me a favor. 'Owned' by a semi-illiterate, criminal, druggie chav. Do you mean dragged down to your level of debating skills?

I want you to substantiate your claims in your previous post , you don't quite get it do you?
You're the one getting 'owned' to use your own semi-literate slogan.

Calling me names & telling me I'll never achieve anything in life is plain stupid. You don't know where I'm from, what I've done or what I'm going to do in the future. I would hazard a guess I am a lot nicer person than you.

As for owning you, it was put to a vote & I clearly won. Remember?



RIP Tony. No money for you, mate.

BBC NEWS | England | Manchester | Friends fund Wilson's cancer drug

Did anybody click the previous radio link? There is a man in tears on there right now because he has been told he has to wait a year for treatment. If he'd arrived on the banana boat he'd be on a ward tonight.

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

You mean AR is part of the Elite?

Who decides, Stoller, you?

Hey, dude, you fabricated this Elite stuff, and now it's me who decides?

- get a life!

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It was Old Croc's thread (I don't know him myself, but I've seen a few of you here talking to him, so you know who I mean) so why don't you ask him? I can only speculate. I will speculate, if you want me to?

It is painfully obvious when your back is up against the wall when you post sometimes.

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Robski, you have no idea what I'll be doing in the future. I don't know what I'll be doing in the future. You may have some idea of what I'll be doing today, but seeing as I've just told you, that doesn't make you very insightful. You have substantiated your own claims about you lording it over other people.

You are actualy pretty stupid, aren't you?