Thread: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or self defense ?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

The woman who drove her larping beta minor son across state lines illegally armed with an assault rifle and dropped him in the middle of a protest in contravention of city ordinance?

Not what I heard

Wasn't he in Kenocha working as a lifeguard ?
The gun was there ?

So she didn't take him or the gun there ?

And didn't drop him in the riots ?

Originally Posted by helge

Wasn't he in Kenocha working as a lifeguard ?
The gun was there ?

So she didn't take him or the gun there ?

And didn't drop him in the riots ?

Beta-implosion imminent.



Are the not guilty verdicts expected today or tomorrow?

Originally Posted by helge

Wasn't he in Kenocha working as a lifeguard ?

Nope.

He was there lying about being a certified EMT.

Originally Posted by helge

The gun was there ?

So she didn't take him or the gun there ?

And didn't drop him in the riots ?

On further checking apparently not, he went there with his sister.

Originally Posted by beachbound

The judge just dismissed the weapons charge.
I think the redneck Rambo is going to walk.

The weapons charge was dismissed because the defence raised a motion based on an exception in the law that it was not an illegal firearm because of the barrel length. Like it or not, that's the way the law was written. It is customary for trial judges to follow statuary laws...��

The prosecution gave a good summary yesterday. They managed to get the provocation instruction and that is crucial for a conviction.

^ Prosecution didn't measure barrel length in court. Possession of rifle by 16 and above is allowed for the purposes of hunting and range shooting. Rule is dubious so Judge right to dismiss it.

I believe the technical issue of the gun was bought up in October, and the judge refused to rule on it.

Problem is, as he did not issue a ruling, the prosecution could not appeal the decision at a higher court. The fact that the "judge" then issues a ruling hours before final arguments and deliberation, is, at best, unfortunate and at worst, downright manipulative and biased.

People.

Will be.

Furious.

Yep, the national guard is on standby in case what the jurors decide makes liberal activists angry and then show their unhappiness by rioting.

Originally Posted by Samuel

Yep, the national guard is on standby in case what the jurors decide makes liberal activists angry and then show their unhappiness by rioting.

I presume the Proud Gayboys are on standby in case it goes the other way.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I presume the Proud Gayboys are on standby in case it goes the other way.

The Proud Boys (brawling with BLM boys, mostly in the PNW) have a long way to go to match the destruction the liberal activists have caused in recent years.

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So the Proud Gayboys are on standby then.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So the Proud Gayboys are on standby then.

They are a small group of suburban young punks (15-30 year olds) with dumb ideas.

You don't have to worry, Harry.

I doubt they have a branch in Kenosha.

;-)

Proud Boys - Wikipedia

According to David Neiwert, the Proud Boys recruit with emphasis on right-wing 15-/30-year-old white males who come primarily from suburbs and exurbs

Originally Posted by Samuel

They are a small group of suburban young punks (15-30 year olds) with dumb ideas.

Yes and how old is the wannabe in the dock again?

Being in a right wing hate group ages you terribly:

Let's put it this way: Nobody in Kenosha thinks the National guard is there to help protect them from rioting by the proud boys.

Are you sure? You also don't think racism is an issue and AmeriKKKa racist asf.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

You also don't think racism is an issue

Not true.

Anyways, why do you keep on bringing race into this thread?

Just curious how you think it is a factor in this trial.

Originally Posted by Samuel

Anyways, why do you keep on bringing race into this thread?

I don't.

Originally Posted by Samuel

Just curious how you think it is a factor in this trial.

Are you asking how is race an issue in a trial about shootings by a Trump supporter that occurred during protests over a Black man being shot seven times by police? Dunno real head scratcher that one.

And apropos of fuck all: 'If the Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial is called the Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial why isn’t the Ahmaud Arbery lynching called “The Gregory McMichael, 65; his son Travis McMichael, 35; and their neighbor William Bryan, 52 - lynching trial”?'

Originally Posted by Samuel

Okay, so you think Rittenhouse is a racist, right?

Honestly, do you think jurors should be considering that (Rittenhouse is a racist) in their deliberations?


If you were a juror, would you?

What an odd question and (not) only for the odd use of (parentheses).

I certainly wouldn’t bet against Rittenhouse being racist but what relevance does that have to a trial over shooting three white dudes.

FYI: This trial isn't about race.

In America, you have to get the jury to decide "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Did the prosecution prove a case that it wasn't "self-defense" beyond a reasonable doubt.

Don't think so.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I certainly wouldn’t bet against Rittenhouse being racist but what relevance does that have to a trial over shooting three white dudes.

exactly.

Nobody: ...

Originally Posted by Samuel

FYI: This trial isn't about race.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Nobody: ...

Fair enough — liberal commentators can bring race into it, if they wish.

Though, good to see that inside the courtroom you agree it shouldn't be an issue for the jury.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I certainly wouldn’t bet against Rittenhouse being racist but what relevance does that have to a trial over shooting three white dudes.