Thread: Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or self defense ?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Brown and black boys get shot dead walking with Skittles or playing with toy guns in their own neighborhoods. This guy gets driven by his mum across state lines armed with an assault rifle, dropped into a rally and gets waved on by the cops after he’d shot people dead and allowed to be driven home by his mum again.

How many of the defenders of Kyle Rittenhouse would be cool with Black teenagers from different states walking around their neighborhoods during rallies with assault rifles to 'maintain peace and order'? Gonna say 'none'. If he were Black it would be an entirely different narrative and we all know it.

Whenever Black men arm themselves all the '2A!' types suddenly see a need for gun controls. America racist as fuck.

And pass laws such as the 1967 Mulford Act

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

There are stupid people and then there is you.

Right, and you would be one of the stupid people along with the moron backspin.

Originally Posted by Backspin

In 2017, the “okay” hand gesture acquired a new and different significance thanks to ahoax by members of the website 4chan to falsely promote the gesture as a hate symbol, claiming that the gesture represented the letters “wp,” for “white power.” The “okay” gesture hoax was merely the latest in a series of similar 4chan hoaxes using various innocuous symbols; in each case, the hoaxers hoped that the media and liberals would overreact by condemning a common image as white supremacist.

In the case of the “okay” gesture, the hoax was so successful the symbol became a popular trolling tactic on the part of right-leaning individuals, who would often post photos to social media of themselves posing while making the “okay” gesture.

Okay Hand Gesture | Anti-Defamation League

Of course you left out the most important part of the article...

Ironically, some white supremacists themselves soon also participated in such trolling tactics, lending an actual credence to those who labeled the trolling gesture as racist in nature. By 2019, at least some white supremacists seem to have abandoned the ironic or satiric intent behind the original trolling campaign and used the symbol as a sincere expression of white supremacy, such as when Australian white supremacist Brenton Tarrant flashed the symbol during a March 2019 courtroom appearance soon after his arrest for allegedly murdering 50 people in a shooting spree at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand.

The ‘okay’ hand sign has moved from trolling campaign to real hate symbol, civil rights group says


The traditional hand gesture for “okay” is now considered a sign of hatred, along with 35 other signs, by a prominent Jewish civil rights organization that maintains a database of hate symbols.

The “okay” sign, which some associate with white supremacy, joins other images and slogans associated with far-right extremism in the Anti-Defamation League’s “Hate on Display” database. The organization also added the “Dylann Roof Bowlcut,” a man with a moon-shaped head and an image of a Jewish man greedily rubbing his hands together.

Many of the new symbols in the database are associated with the alt-right, and several are popular on anonymous message boards, including 4chan and 8chan, according to the ADL. Some of the images and slogans have spread to mainstream websites, such as Facebook and Twitter.

“These are the latest calling cards of hate,” Mark Pitcavage, senior fellow at ADL’s Center on Extremism, said in a statement. “While some hate symbols are short-lived, others take on a life of their own and become tools for online trolling.”

The ADL resisted adding the “okay” symbol to its Hate on Display database, which also includes swastikas, the Aryan Brotherhood’s logo and the Nazi Party’s flag. The idea that the gesture, made by touching the thumb and forefinger, secretly symbolizes white supremacy began as a troll campaign by some segments of the political right and far-right to incite a reaction from liberals and the media.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ts-group-says/

Originally Posted by bsnub

Of course you left out the most important part of the article...

Of course the halfwit did as it doesn't suit his agenda


Interestingly the 'ok' gesture in places uses the middle finger and thumb . . . that's how I use it.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Right, and you would be one of the stupid people along with the moron backspin.

Yaaa ok Napoleon

Originally Posted by bsnub

Of course you left out the most important part of the article...

Show me the news release from a real white supremacist organization that said they adopted the "ok/perfect" hand signal. That is all speculative nonsense. Fact is, it originated as a hoax.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Show me the news release from a real white supremacist organization that said they adopted the "ok/perfect" hand signal.

Why would any dumb racists make such a statement, you imbecile?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Fact is, it originated as a hoax.

Just like the Gadsden flag was at one point a symbol to be proud of until it was co-opted by nutcases. The same exact thing happened with the ok hand signal, you brain-dead clown. It is now a secret handshake for shitbags like you.

So they're deploying 500 national guard troops I assume in anticipation of unrest in the event he's found not guilty.
That judge is an ass.

George Floyd’s nephew, Cortez Rice, makes a claim that he knows people taking photos of jurors during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha, Wisconsin. His goal is to dox jurors if they do not convict

https://twitter.com/Johnmcurtis/stat...833360389?s=20

Originally Posted by Backspin

George Floyd’s nephew, Cortez Rice, makes a claim that he knows people taking photos of jurors during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in Kenosha, Wisconsin. His goal is to dox jurors if they do not convict

Oh, do fuck off, halfwit.
Twitter . . . where's the 'RAW' data you promised?

Originally Posted by Cujo

So they're deploying 500 national guard troops I assume in anticipation of unrest in the event he's found not guilty.
That judge is an ass.

What are the odds of a mistrial being called . . . the judge has been a joke.

I would like to know who takes a weapon like an assault rifle or any gun to a rally or protest? I would think that establishes intent to do harm at the very least without the actual outcome. In Oz you would probably be shot by police before you got to the rally if you went carrying a rifle. I am glad to live in a society of very few firearms.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Fact is, it originated as a hoax.

Fact is, it is now a recognized sign used by white supremacists and it's beta as fcuk.

I feel both are reasons you're so triggered by it.

^ Are you still beta-irked by the temporary subforum ban?

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I would like to know who takes a weapon like an assault rifle or any gun to a rally or protest?

A decent, upstanding member of the community, voluntarily putting their life in danger to protect the property of others. :-)

Originally Posted by Edmond

A decent, upstanding member of the community, voluntarily putting their life in danger to protect the property of others. :-)

Boy oh boy you have got your big net out today.

Originally Posted by Edmond

Are you still beta-irked by the temporary subforum ban?

No. It looks like the mod(s) have learned the error of their ways... the cnuts.

Originally Posted by Edmond

A decent, upstanding member of the community, voluntarily putting their life in danger to protect the property of others. :-)

If we permit vigilantes to come to tense conflict areas armed with assault-style rifles and to claim self defense after KILLING people—even though they made themselves willing combatants in the danger zone—God help us all. We will have lost all reason.

And a violent kid with delusions who sucker punches girls.

Originally Posted by Edmond

A decent, upstanding member of the community, voluntarily putting their life in danger to protect the property of others. :-)

Yeah, he’s a regular Eagle Scout.

“Bro I wish I had my fucking AR. l’d start shooting rounds at them.”-Kyle Rittenhouse

Originally Posted by beachbound

Yeah, he’s a regular Eagle Scout.

“Bro I wish I had my fucking AR. l’d start shooting rounds at them.”-Kyle Rittenhouse

Yep, what an absolute charmer:

Video shows Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse punching a girl: report

Weird that grown men would fetishize and idolize that.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Oh, do fuck off, halfwit.
Twitter . . . where's the 'RAW' data you promised?


What are the odds of a mistrial being called . . . the judge has been a joke.

Hit a nerve Its literally George Floyd's nephew in the video. You fucking twat

Originally Posted by Backspin

Hit a nerve

No, what nerve would you be referring to?

Originally Posted by Backspin

Its literally George Floyd's nephew in the video.

No shit, Sherlock . . . that wasn't what I was referring to, proving yet again that you are a

Originally Posted by Backspin

fucking twat

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Yep, what an absolute charmer:

Video shows Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse punching a girl: report

Weird that grown men would fetishize and idolize that.

Fake news. No positive identification of Rittenhouse at all. Just the back of a head. Random video uploaded by random people to the social med.

Weird that grown men would fetishize and idolize that.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Fake news. No positive identification of Rittenhouse at all. Just the back of a head. Random video uploaded by random people to the social med.

So weird.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Our daily reminder that the legality of the gun is IRRELEVANT if and when the threshold of self defense has been met. And if you think this isn't true then post something that backs up your claim.

Classic Self-Defense: , whether the weapon used in self-defense is lawfully possessed doesn’t matter. The five core elements of self-defense – innocence, imminence, proportionality, avoidance, and reasonableness – don’t make any reference whatever to the legality or illegality of one’s defensive weapon.

Not intended as a reply to backspit, but more as a general observation - the first basis for self-defense is "innocence". Surely a strong case can be made that Rittenhouse was not, in any way "innocent". The American legal doctrine of "fruit of the poisonous tree" would seem to have some application here - establishing that he was in possession of an illegal weapon would surely invalidate the basis of "innocence".

Still, we shall see.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

establishing that he was in possession of an illegal weapon would surely invalidate the basis of "innocence".

Still, we shall see.

The legality of the weapon does not affect a charge of self defense.

Originally Posted by Backspit

Fake news.

This is why a debate with you, is pointless.
Your go-to argument is, and will always be taken from the Trump playbook of “it’s fake news.”

Fake news is trumpanese for validation of the truth.