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    ^ Not quite, the mistake was being there with the gun in the first place. The he got himself into a bad position without backup. The adult supervisor is also to blame for allowing the situation to deteriorate to such an extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Seems like a lot of morons in this thread think Rittenhouse is obligated to put his gun down and get the living shit beaten out of him and risking getting shot by his own gun
    More like one moron doesn’t get that Rittenhouse should not have had the gun in his hand. He broke the law to have possession of it. He was too young, according to the law, open carry or not.

    Interesting article here.

    Friend who bought gun for Kyle Rittenhouse told police teen predicted life behind bars after shooting 3 during Kenosha protests
    (Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or self defense ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    More like one moron
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
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    Yes . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    ^ Not quite, the mistake was being there with the gun in the first place..
    That kind of reductio ad absurdum is not going to factor into a self defense case. He was about to be unlawfully and physically harmed. He had a gun, he was permitted to defend himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    More like one moron doesn’t get that Rittenhouse should not have had the gun in his hand. He broke the law to have possession of it. He was too young, according to the law, open carry or not.

    (Kyle Rittenhouse. Murder or self defense ?)
    The underage thing is a misdemeanor charge and reductio ad absurdums are not going to factor in a self defense case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    That kind of reductio ad absurdum is not going to factor into a self defense case. He was about to be unlawfully and physically harmed. He had a gun, he was permitted to defend himself.
    I think it is because the very act of carrying the rifle is provocative. Provocation will override any subsequent attempt at self defence. There may be mitigating circumstances that get the charge dropped from first degree to second degree murder but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    reductio ad absurdum
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    reductio ad absurdums
    Please don't use terminology you don't understand and use incorrectly (and plurals are not the same as in English)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I think it is because the very act of carrying the rifle is provocative. Provocation will override any subsequent attempt at self defence. There may be mitigating circumstances that get the charge dropped from first degree to second degree murder but that's about it.
    I think it is because the very act of carrying the rifle is provocative.
    Of course it is ! I have the same emotional reaction to this case.

    Provocation will override any subsequent attempt at self defence
    No it wont ! Not in the USA in a open/carry guns a blazin state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Please don't use terminology you don't understand and use incorrectly (and plurals are not the same as in English)
    He's being malthusian or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He's being malthusian or something.
    Malthusian Jacobian QED . . .

    His posts are perfect examples of reductio in emperio cerebrum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    No it wont ! Not in the USA in a open/carry guns a blazin state.
    Let's see about the first shooting, although it'll be difficult to claim lethal force self-defence against an unarmed aggressor...

    Meanwhile, after the first shooting, Kyle Rittenhouse became the aggressor and claiming self-defence is pretty much ruled out at this point.

    Obviously only my opinion.

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    Attorney Lin Wood said in a tweet on Friday that Mike Lindell, CEO of MyPillow, Inc., and actor Ricky Schroder helped raise the "required $2M cash bail" for Rittenhouse.

    https://abc7chicago.com/kyle-rittenhouse-rittenouse-shooting-my-pillow-ceo-mike-lindell/8153234/





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    ^ He's the nutcase super-supporter of Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    ^ He's the nutcase super-supporter of Trump.
    Who advertises on Fox News 24/7 or it seems like it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Attorney Lin Wood said in a tweet on Friday that Mike Lindell, CEO of MyPillow, Inc., and actor Ricky Schroder helped raise the "required $2M cash bail" for Rittenhouse.

    https://abc7chicago.com/kyle-rittenhouse-rittenouse-shooting-my-pillow-ceo-mike-lindell/8153234/




    Are you kidding. Lin Wood , he's the shit lawyer who lost that defamation case for that Thailand expat against elon musk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    IMO the kid was playing a very very dangerous game. But he isn't guilty of murder though. Not in the USA sense. You know.. guns, fuck yeah.
    Interesting

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    So... a possible rightwing boy gets himself into a situation, where he shouldn't have been.

    Several, certainly not leftists, but scum gets hurt and killed, because they shouldn't have been there either.


    And then the Holy Brigade turns on backspin


    I commend you on not mentioning the 5 times rapist...of small boys, who got shot



    Rittenhouse, Grosskreutz, Rosenbaum,Huber, Zelinski and Kreuger ?


    All innocents who's mistaken the riots for the Oktoberfest ?


    The stupid boy will get of cheap
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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    So... a possible rightwing boy gets himself into a situation, where he shouldn't have been.

    Several, certainly not leftists, but scum gets hurt and killed, because they shouldn't have been there either.


    And then the Holy Brigade turns on backspin


    I commend you on not mentioning the 5 times rapist...of small boys, who got shot



    Rittenhouse, Grosskreutz, Rosenbaum,Huber, Zelinski and Kreuger ?


    All innocents who's mistaken the riots for the Oktoberfest ?


    The stupid boy will get of cheap
    Are you drunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Are you drunk?
    Well I would suggest a combination of drink and cretinism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Are you drunk?
    he's on the aftermath

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