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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    African Americans are more likely to be killed by police than white folk in identical situations.

    Never even mentioned it.

    African Americans are more likely to be charged with a crime than white folk.

    Not necessarily, it will depend on their background/ connections. OJ Simpson got away with blatantly killing two white people.


    African Americans get longer sentences for the same crimes compared to white folk.

    You are just going into a different category. We are talking about if rich white people and rich black people are treated differently in court. I am pretty sure they are not.

    My last mate, I mean lets not call these guys mates, they used to be but for obvious reasons are not anymore, committed his crimes in a SOUTHERN STATE FFS
    It's hard to fathom how someone can be so dumb as to not be able to understand that everything I said relates to the US criminal justice system being skewed against African Americans.
    As for OJ had one of the best criminal defences money could buy, and the prosecution made glaring errors.

    It's called "an outlier".

    And it's why I said "more likely" than "in every case".

    FFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's hard to fathom how someone can be so dumb as to not be able to understand that everything I said relates to the US criminal justice system being skewed against African Americans.
    As for OJ had one of the best criminal defences money could buy, and the prosecution made glaring errors.

    It's called "an outlier".

    And it's why I said "more likely" than "in every case".

    FFS.
    You obviously have multiple preconceptions constantly on your mind which often have no relation to what someone posts. You also seem to have a particularly foul mouth and abusive nature. Thus, this will be the last time we converse. Good luck in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    You obviously have multiple preconceptions constantly on your mind which often have no relation to what someone posts. You also seem to have a particularly foul mouth and abusive nature. Thus, this will be the last time we converse. Good luck in your life.

    Yeah OK snowflake.

    Till the next nick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    ^ ^^

    You just embarrass yourselves by bringing race into it. Rich kids whatever colour will in general get away with more than poor kids of whatever colour. Do not be so f'ing ridiculous, it has nothing to do with colour in this instance.

    Case in point I have two friends, both are from well connected black African families and both have gotten away with distributing drugs charges on numerous occasions. I have one white Welsh/ English friend from no great background and he did 5years for distributing cocaine. Just to further throw cum on your deranged theory, my well connected white friend did 1 year for football hooliganism. I forgot, I also have another friend who is black who stole a car, held someone hostage, aggravated assault and a few other things, this dude never went to jail cause of his dad's connections.

    I just can't tell you how much of a bullshit statement 'Rich WHITE kid.' is.
    That's exactly right. What is more cringe than this bunch of self hating guilt tripping whingers in this thread, making everything about race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If you're a rich connected African American you probably would get away with more than a poor, unconnected African American.

    Probably because you can afford better lawyers.
    Number of people shot to death by the police in the US from 2017 to 2020, by race

    (Source: Statista.com)

    White: 457 (2017) | 399 (2018) | 370 (2019) | 172 (2020*)

    Black: 223 (2017) | 209 (2018) | 235 (2019) | 88 (2020*)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I actually prayed over what is the appropriate sentence in this case because there was great pain.
    Ah, that's the way to do it . . .


    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Number of people shot to death by the police in the US from 2017 to 2020, by race

    (Source: Statista.com)

    White: 457 (2017) | 399 (2018) | 370 (2019) | 172 (2020*)

    Black: 223 (2017) | 209 (2018) | 235 (2019) | 88 (2020*)
    You forgot one amazing statistic, Backspit:
    White population: 236 million
    Black population: 37 million

    Do you really need me to point out your flawed 'trying-by-all-means-to-justify-black-deaths-by-police-as-being-fair' Schtick?

    Ok, why don't I just say that all things being equal according to you it should be:

    2017
    White: x 5 of
    Black: 223

    2018
    White: x 5 of
    Black: 209

    2019
    White: x 5 of
    Black: 235


    Just for fun I won't explain any further

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    What is more cringe than this bunch of self hating guilt tripping whingers in this thread, making everything about race.
    It's a beta thing they do.


    Race!!

    His mother!!

    It was windy!!


    Kinda beta-cute of them, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
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    Do you really need me to point out your flawed 'trying-by-all-means-to-justify-black-deaths-by-police-as-being-fair' Schtick?
    Probably yes, because he is after all as thick as shit.

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    Jesus christ Trump hosted him at mar a lago.
    The repubtards are turning him into a conservative poster boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Jesus christ Trump hosted him at mar a lago.
    The repubtards are turning him into a conservative poster boy.
    He had a gun.

    And he got away with shooting someone.

    That is every witless gun-toting redneck's dream.

    And of course those witless gun-toting rednecks are baldy orange cunto's base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Ah, that's the way to do it . . .




    You forgot one amazing statistic, Backspit:
    White population: 236 million
    Black population: 37 million

    Do you really need me to point out your flawed 'trying-by-all-means-to-justify-black-deaths-by-police-as-being-fair' Schtick?

    Ok, why don't I just say that all things being equal according to you it should be:

    2017
    White: x 5 of
    Black: 223

    2018
    White: x 5 of
    Black: 209

    2019
    White: x 5 of
    Black: 235


    Just for fun I won't explain any further
    You can't use the general population as yard stick, it is a common misconception amongst armchair analysts. You need to use the crime figures.

    For 2017, the crime figures were as such.

    Whites - 5.6million total arrests
    Blacks - 2.3million total arrests

    So as you can see, criminals get shot at the same rate regardless of their race.

    I know i know, you are just going to say, 'yeah but yeah but yeah but you see how many black arrests there are, that's a clear sign of racism maaaaaaaan.' Well you could be right but you could be wrong, that is a whole other argument which I really do not have the will to get into because there are so many variables that it is, and has been, considered an impossible conclusion to make.

    Are there racists? yes, but to what extent that affects black, predominately males, to commit crime, you can never get a conclusive answer.

    Sorry had to dash out but I've done the 'math' as they say. Hope I am correct 55555 not the best at maths.

    In 2017 0.008160% of white (criminals) were shot and killed by police

    In 2017 0.009695% of black (criminals) were shot and killed by police

    I will try and find the extract from a thesis I read on why you must compare kills by police to criminals and not the general population. It was to do with the fact that 95% of those kills were on criminals in the act of committing a crime or evading arrest for a previously committed crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    You can't use the general population as yard stick, it is a common misconception amongst armchair analysts.

    So as you can see, criminals get shot at the same rate regardless of their race.
    I know i know, you are just going to say, 'yeah but yeah but yeah but you see how many black arrests there are, that's a clear sign of racism maaaaaaaan.' Well you could be right but you could be wrong, that is a whole other argument which I really do not have the will to get into because there are so many variables that it is, and has been, considered an impossible conclusion to make.

    Are there racists? yes, but to what extent that affects black, predominately males, to commit crime, you can never get a conclusive answer.
    can’t argue with that.


    First, you’d have to understand that big steaming pile of gibberish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    You can't use the general population as yard stick
    You absolutely can, unless you're trying some useless fucking bullshit you saw on Fox News.

    Many of the African Americans killed by the police are not "criminals" unless you count "driving with a broken taillight", "selling individual cigarettes" or "being anywhere near an armed white racist cop" as a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    can’t argue with that.


    First, you’d have to understand that big steaming pile of gibberish.
    Exactly the kind of retort I would expect. Good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    Exactly the kind of retort I would expect. Good luck to you.
    Klondyke would be proud of your writing, and debate skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    Klondyke would be proud of your writing, and debate skills.
    Actually even he could safely mock them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    can’t argue with that.


    First, you’d have to understand that big steaming pile of gibberish.
    While more white people are shot, that may simply be because there are more white Americans.

    And while a disproportionate number of black people are shot, that may be because they encounter police more often.

    And we do not know whether that is because black people commit more crimes, or because of racial bias by police.

    We simply do not know enough.

    What we do know is that the number of unarmed black Americans shot by police is very small, falling to single digits last year


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    You can't use the general population as yard stick, it is a common misconception amongst armchair analysts.
    Actually, yes you can. As far as armchair analysts . . . my Uni degree is in economics of which a large part was stats, so I'm quite capable of seeing an issue through statistical data.

    . . . and . . .



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Many of the African Americans killed by the police are not "criminals" unless you count "driving with a broken taillight", "selling individual cigarettes" or "being anywhere near an armed white racist cop" as a crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Actually, yes you can. As far as armchair analysts . . . my Uni degree is in economics of which a large part was stats, so I'm quite capable of seeing an issue through statistical data.

    . . . and . . .
    Well that is your opinion and I will of course respect that and your previously required knowledge. I am just stating what I read in a thesis; to me, it makes sense.

    In my view, you cannot include babies and grandmothers in statistical analysis when the subject is mostly centred on males of a criminal background. You cannot deny that when the statistical analysis is calculated with the parameters I used, it clearly shows that overall, colour plays an insignificant role with regards to whether a criminal is killed by the police. Of course that is not to say it doesn't happen sometimes. For me, this is just further proof that this is all totally overblown by whoever to create whatever it is they are wanting to create; but that is another rabbit hole!

    Quote from the abusive one: totally subjective and most definitely statistically non-significant.

    I think I will leave it, and this thread, at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Actually, yes you can. As far as armchair analysts . . . my Uni degree is in economics of which a large part was stats, so I'm quite capable of seeing an issue through statistical data.

    . . . and . . .


    the number of unarmed black Americans shot by police is very small, falling to single digits last year.

    And this doesn't even exclude the black ppl who were shot by policman of color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist blah blah blah racist apologist
    You're doing well, backspit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    considered an impossible conclusion to make.

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    So poor little Kyle no claims he was manipulated.

    But on the down side, Ms. Jewish Space Lasers is supporting him.

    Rittenhouse said in an interview on the cable channel NewsNation on Tuesday that he and his mother fired Wood last December because “he was going on with all this QAnon and election fraud stuff, and just stuff we don’t agree with.”

    He added: “He’s insane. ... He thinks he’s God and he just says all these weird things.”

    Rittenhouse has also accused Wood of mishandling money the attorney raised to bail him out.


    Rittenhouse told Tucker Carlson on Fox News that Wood raised $2 million for bail, but then advised the teen to stay in jail where he would be “safer” for a total of 87 days. Wood also “put me on media interviews, which I should never have done,” Rittenhouse complained to Carlson.

    He added: “I was being used for a cause.”

    Now Rittenhouse wants to use the money raised for him to pay off his current attorneys.

    Wood, who has discounted Rittenhouse’s complaints, told NewsNation he can’t simply hand over the money to Rittenhouse because it was raised as part of the charity he established, the FightBack Foundation, and he must comply with tax law.


    The lawyer said he is “open” to using funds to help pay Rittenhouse’s defense bills. But Wood also claimed that his organization spent $2.7 million on Rittenhouse’s defense before the teen signed on with new attorneys.

    QAnon influencer John Sabal, better known as QAnon John, posted a message on Wednesday to his more than 70,000 Telegram subscribers, writing: “Not too smart to shit where you sleep, Kyle,” Insider reported.

    QAnon influencer Ron Watkins’ followers accused Rittenhouse of being part of a “psyop” to divide QAnon followers.

    But Wood was also garnering some negative comments. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who has peddled QAnon conspiracy theories, blasted Wood earlier this week as a “horrible person” after what Rittenhouse had to say about him.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lin-w...b0ae9a42ae7e32

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    It's pleasant to see the animals rip into each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    It's pleasant to see the animals rip into each other

    Was just thinking much the same. They deserve each other.

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