Thread: Australia V China

China suspends importation of more Australian beef as trade battle escalates

China has suspended the importation of more Australian beef, this time from Meramist Pty Ltd, the sixth supplier to face such a move in a country that is one of China's main meat suppliers.



China made the decision on Monday but did not provide a reason.

It has already banned imports from five other Australian beef suppliers this year, citing reasons that have included issues with labelling and health certificates.

Australia's ties with China — its top trade partner — were already strained.

The relationship has significantly deteriorated since Canberra called for an inquiry into the origins of the coronavirus.

China stopped receiving applications and registration for beef exports from the Meramist plant from December 7, China's General Administration of Customs said in a notice on its website, without giving a reason.

Mike Eathorne, the general manager of Meramist, told the ABC on Monday night he had only just received the news.

China suspends importation of more Australian beef as trade battle escalates (msn.com)


I'm not sure who invented the Thumbscrew. Maybe China just copied and improved it.

Originally Posted by sabang

The relationship has significantly deteriorated since Canberra called for an inquiry into the origins of the coronavirus.

Yea . . . China will crash and burn at one stage in the future and not a tear will be shed

^I've been hearing that for 25 years now. Still waiting.

Originally Posted by sabang

^I've been hearing that for 25 years now. Still waiting.

Did anyone say it would happen today? Tomorrow?

The beast of self-enrichment and quasi-capitalism has been unleashed in the land of equality . . . if you've ever been to rural China you'd have seen the poverty. Cities with new buildings but impoverished areas.
Itinerant workers being driven past gleaming skyscrapers (mostly empty) on their way to their factory jobs at subsistence level pay . . . farmers holding the real power, held in place only by the ever-present CCP.

It's a gradual process. No need to wait and count the days, sabang. It'll happen. There's simply no way it won't

So do you think China will collapse before or after the USA?

China has forgotten the golden rule. "Look after your friends on the way up. You may need them on the way down".
America stays up purely because it is in most countries interest for it to be so. The collapse of the USD is in no ones' interest and the EU as well as many other countries use the USA's military might to save a shed load of money on their own defence.
When that changes who can say.

chinas collapse will come from within - its archaic methods of feudal privilege beating the peasants will not stand in the era of modern communications

Originally Posted by baldrick

chinas collapse will come from within - its archaic methods of feudal privilege beating the peasants will not stand in the era of modern communications

Oh I don't know. Like the mad mullahs of Iran and Vlad the Embezzler, Mr. Shithole has a particular propensity for "disappearing" those who put his rule at risk.

Originally Posted by sabang

So do you think China will collapse before or after the USA?

One has little to do with the other, we're talking about China - why are you deflecting?

Originally Posted by baldrick

chinas collapse will come from within - its archaic methods of feudal privilege beating the peasants will not stand in the era of modern communications

This is pretty much it. Tyrannical forms of government fail eventually.

Why do you not think that China is a dictatorship run by a self-appointed president for life?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Tyrannical forms of government fail eventually.

Nothing lasts forever. Lasted for thousands of years in China though

What will happen, when 1,5 billion chinese are let loose ?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Why do you not think that China is a dictatorship run by a self-appointed president for life?

Because it's the best for the rest of us ?

Originally Posted by helge

What will happen, when 1,5 billion chinese are let loose ?

Oh, absolutely . . . long may the tyrannical dictatorship in China last . . . and please take my father-in-law into your bosom

Originally Posted by panama hat

my father-in-law

Yes
Sorry for my post above

I was out for a cup of coffee and the cynic in me posted

One has little to do with the other, we're talking about China - why are you deflecting?

So you don't think China & the USA are being compared and contrasted out there? Don't be so naive, they are the two global superpowers- and competing political systems. Increasingly bellicose rhetoric coming from the USA too, because they know they are being outperformed in many if not most key areas. Who would you say is winning right now?

And as far as 'collapse of Empire' goes, would you say the USA looks more politically and societally stable than China right now?

Australia V China

I haven't been keeping up with this thread, what's the score?

Again, your OhNo/Klondyke-esque effort in veering off the topic and trying to include the US is commendable but not the issue

Try again

So no answers, just platitudes. Try thinking with your head and not your heart PH. And try answering a single question.
But the score- Australia 0; China 1. Knockout. Even the Amerkin Ref can't change that. Nice one, Australian government.

Originally Posted by sabang

So no answers, just platitudes.

Nope, you're the one veering off and deflecting and I have very little 'heart' in the discussion.

You want to to count Oz v China . . . might as well make it 0-50 . . . and if your questions are relevant I will

Originally Posted by OhOh

The thread title is:

Nothing to do with the US, fuckwit . . .

^^ You clearly do not know the Australian banking system- which is not dominated by foreign banks at all, rather the "Big Four", being Commonwealth, Westpac, ANZ & NAB- all Australian owned. Between them, they have 80% of the home loan market. The fifth largest bank, Bendigo, is also Australian owned.

I used to work for Deutsche Bank & Merrill Lynch (now part of BoA) in Sydney. They are investment banking operations, with international Private banking facilities for HNW customers only.

Originally Posted by sabang

I used to work for Deutsche Bank & Merrill Lynch (now part of BoA) in Sydney.

Where you a contract cleaner or on the payroll?

Stock jockey.

Originally Posted by sabang

You clearly do not know the Australian banking system

No I have not checked their share registry.

Originally Posted by sabang

Commonwealth, Westpac, ANZ & NAB

Your three named banks are listed on the OZ stock exchange. Thus, unless only OZ citizens are allowed to purchase shares, they are subject to international political and financial, manipulations, as are all banks unless privately owned.

The Commonwealth Bank of Australia, or CommBank,

is an Australian multinational bank with businesses across New Zealand, Asia, the United States and the United Kingdom.

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Originally Posted by OhOh

Thus, unless only OZ citizens are allowed to purchase shares, they are subject to international political and financial, manipulations, as are all banks unless privately owned.

Australia has a heavily regulated banking system. One of the reasons Oz got off comparatively lightly in 2008.

Originally Posted by OhOh

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Holy smokes $83

China has continued its attack on Australian exports, with its ban on timber now including products from Tasmania and South Australia.

China bans timber exports from South Australia and Tasmania