Thread: Australia V China

Originally Posted by OhOh

No rebuttal's to my post I see.

You're Chinese, to argue logic with a brain-dead Communist that's never been able to think for himself would be like trying to teach a pig to whistle.

I'll say this though, while you bat eating fucks are going out of your way to deflect attention and blame for destroying the world with your Coronavirus, you'd be better off offering to pay for vaccines that people will soon all need to have. Then humbly apologising for starting/hiding this mess that's killed millions, altered lives forever, and cost uncountable trillions of dollars.

Originally Posted by Headworx

You're Chinese,

Alleged, but not proven.

Originally Posted by Headworx

destroying the world with your Coronavirus

Alleged, but not proven by the UN/WHO inquiry.

Originally Posted by Headworx

pay for vaccines that people will soon all need to have

Shall we await the inquiry's results prior to asking for more money?

Originally Posted by Headworx

cost uncountable trillions of dollars

Surely the FED can print more?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Shall we await the inquiry's results.....

This is exactly what started the latest bat-eaters vs humans stoush. When the Australian PM (and other world leaders) called for an independent inquiry as to how/where this latest virus out of China began and what steps should be put in place to stop it ever happening again, Winnie the Pooh shit himself. The old loss of face thing is very hard for some cultures to deal with...

As far as China is concerned there will be no inquiry and if there is it'll be done by Chinese with no foreigners involved in the investigation or reporting of findings. The entire world knows why, except you and your ilk of uneducated brainwashed plebs

Originally Posted by Headworx

When the Australian PM (and other world leaders) called for an independent inquiry as to how/where this latest virus out of China began and what steps should be put in place to stop it ever happening again, Winnie the Pooh shit himself

I see some topic drift here but to answer your reply.

An inclusive and far ranging inquiry was needed rather than focused on one possibility. That is what is now occurring.

Although the possible first reported occurrence/source locations do appear to be increasing.

Originally Posted by OhOh

I see some topic drift here but to answer your reply.

An inclusive and far ranging inquiry was needed rather than focused on one possibility. That is what is now occurring.

Although the possible first reported occurrence/source locations do appear to be increasing.

Except it isn't because the chinkies want the "investigation" to look everywhere except where the Wuhan virus started: Hubei.

Originally Posted by OhOh

I see some topic drift here

Can't have that, can we WahWah . . .

Originally Posted by Headworx

As far as China is concerned there will be no inquiry and if there is it'll be done by Chinese with no foreigners involved in the investigation or reporting of findings. The entire world knows why, except you and your ilk of uneducated brainwashed plebs

That about sums it up

Originally Posted by OhOh

An inclusive and far ranging inquiry was needed rather than focused on one possibility. That is what is now occurring.

Really? Which foreign pandemic experts and investigators are there now while this is taking place? Keep in mind, the Chinese Gov't couldn't get foreign reporters out of Wuhan fast enough when this first broke out and questions were being asked. As we all know, any report submitted to the world by Chinese will be about as believable as Santa Claus. They lie, that's a given.

Italians say that they have found the virus in blood samples from sep 2019.

Others say that the italians don't know what they are doing

Originally Posted by Headworx

As we all know, any report submitted to the world by Chinese will be about as believable as Santa Claus. They lie, that's a given.

Yup . . . as do their apologists like WahWah

Originally Posted by helge

Italians say that they have found the virus in blood samples from sep 2019.

Others say that the italians don't know what they are doing

They're . . . . . . . . Italians, but make great food

^

Is this an OZ comedy show or an actual government arriving at an important decision?

Australia Exports By Country	Value	Year
China	$103.00B	2019

US$103B

2019 exports/year v AUD400B costs from "the forward looking estimate".

^103 billion is less than what you bat eating cvnts and your virus has cost Australia this year, by far. Can't even imagine what the total costs will be worldwide by the time this is done, certainly trillions, but if you thought everyone hated your uneducated and brainwashed arses before, wait till the borders open up again to see just how despised you are now on the world stage. Could happen to a nicer bunch of peasants.

Originally Posted by Headworx

wait till the borders open up again

Some borders are already open. Manufactured items, food, even "essential" Christmas presents, if you wear the right badge, are traveling.

Us "select" people with the correct paperwork and no injections, as well.

Others are promising further restrictions and more personal attacks on their desperate citizens.

Asia eh, who would have thought the 3rd world countries, run by little brown/yellow people, would manage the financial and medical catastrophe better than the "civilised western" countries.

Long may it continue.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Asia eh, who would have thought the 3rd world countries, run by little brown/yellow people, would manage the financial and medical catastrophe better than the "civilised western" countries.

Bit of a racist cvnt, aren't you . . . I guess it's handy when China silences critics, falsifies data, imprisons whistleblowers, murders 'complainers', lies through its teeth and is generally the creator of a worldwide pandemic that will kill millions.

Suits you - so, why aren't you back home in China by now?

fcuk he winds you cnuts up so easy

he is sitting in a thai village and not in a chin one - I am sure he has never visited a country chin village

Originally Posted by panama hat

why aren't you back home in China by now

I'd miss my current lifestyle, the sun-kissed beaches and the chanting monks.

Judging by the attendance at the local Chinese "Temple" on celebration days there's a healthy number of the wealthy "Chinese" just here in the village.

Originally Posted by baldrick

fcuk he winds you cnuts up so easy

he is sitting in a thai village and not in a chin one - I am sure he has never visited a country chin village

Of course he hasn't.

How a blow to Australian wine shows tensions with China

Imagine, just for a second, the Australian wine industry as a bottle shop. For decades it had loyal customers overseas - old friends from the UK and the US partial to an antipodean drop.

Then a few years ago, a new customer walked in who began eyeing up the reds. Soon, not only were they spending double the other customers, but they were buying the high-end stuff, preferring the premium vintages.

China - this top customer - has bought close to 40% of Australia's wine exports in the past few years.

In 2019, China bought more bottled wine from Australia than it did from France. After an intense few years of marketing and trade deals, this love affair with Australian winegrowers was fizzing along nicely.

Then last week it was corked in the neck. China slapped over 200% tariffs on bottled Australian wine, in a trade hit linked to deteriorating political relations. The one swift blow exposed again Australia's economic dependence on Beijing.
'Buy wine for democracy'

Wine is just the latest Australian export this year to be collateral damage in the wider political battle. Since May, a string of goods - barley, beef, copper, sugar, lobsters, timber, coal - have been halted or otherwise sanctioned by China's Ministry of Commerce.

Australia and China's new battleground: social media

While Beijing cites trade reasons for the blockages - accusing Australia of illegal dumping practices for its wine - analysts say it's become increasingly clear that the real motivation is political.

That has spurred politicians around the world this week to release a video urging people buy Australian wine "to stand up to China's bullying".
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The #SolidarityWithAustralia campaign came from the recently formed Inter-Parliamentary Alliance of China - a group of 200 MPs from 19 countries known for their hawkish stance on China.

The Australian senator in the video, Kimberley Kitching, argues that China has cancelled Australia's exports because of criticism on human rights.

"This isn't just an attack on Australia. This is an attack on free countries everywhere," she says.
Collateral hit

For local wine-growers, the overnight closure of their biggest and richest market is a devastating blow.

The tariffs at minimum will triple the cost of an Australian bottle for Chinese buyers. What was once a $100 shiraz might now cost at least $300.

"Obviously people aren't rushing out to buy that," said Chester Osborne, a fourth-generation winemaker at the family-owned D'Arenberg Wines in South Australia's McLaren Vale.

He is a mid-sized producer. The loss of China means a 20-30% cut to sales; staff cuts; and grape and bottle price reductions as product bound for China is returned home likely flooding the market.

For other wine businesses - such as the 800 exporters dedicated almost exclusively to shipping Australian drops over to China - it means almost certain business closure.

At a recent wine-growers meeting, Mr Osborne told the BBC, the talk was all about international politics. Most Australian exporters right now- not just wine-growers - are closely watching the diplomatic play between Canberra and Beijing.

"It's clear as day that that's where we need to be working: how to mend the relationship [with China]," Mr Osborne said.

He contends poor diplomacy on Australia's part has led to these punishments from China.

"The word 'sorry' would be good. I don't think it's going to come out. But saying sorry would be a very, very useful way to change the direction."
China's grievances

Beijing's problems with Australia this year would appear to be articulated in a list circulated by its embassy in Canberra last month.

It listed 14 areas where it said Canberra had aggravated relations. These included a 2018 decision to ban Huawei from its 5G tender, not recognising China's claim in contested South China Sea, and supposed "wanton interference in Hong Kong, Xinjiang and Taiwan".

But foreign policy experts have pointed out that these have been longstanding policies of Australia's. And many - such as criticism of China's harsh new security law in Hong Kong, or the treatment of its Uighur minority - merely reflect its values as a liberal democracy.

"For a long time, Australia complained about human rights issues in China, but the trade was not affected," says Prof James Laurenceson from the Australia -China Relations Institute.

How a blow to Australian wine shows tensions with China - BBC News

So, the Morrison governments decision to fall lock step behind the belligerent rhetoric and aggressive anti-China policy of the outgoing trump administration is looking really smart now, isn't it? It appears those on the right who want to talk about and treat China as an enemy have got their wish, at least for now. be careful what you wish for.

Originally Posted by sabang

fall lock step behind the belligerent rhetoric and aggressive anti-China policy of the outgoing trump administration

Except it has nothing to do with "the belligerent rhetoric and aggressive anti-China policy of the outgoing trump administration", but that is the apologist talking point. There were tensions way before Trump joined the scene.

Originally Posted by sabang

It appears those on the right who want to talk about and treat China as an enemy have got their wish, at least for now.

Again - nothing to do with left nor right, why would you say that and what wold make you say that? Even the 'Socialist International' Jacinda, Sweden's Wallström and other left of centre pollies are in agreement about China's hegemony and trampling on human rights (especially the left) and coercion of 'local' nationals.

Nah, you'll have to do better than that to be an apologist for China's behaviour.

Except it has nothing to do with "the belligerent rhetoric and aggressive anti-China policy of the outgoing trump administration"

It has everything to do with it- it was parrotting mike pompeousarse' invective that kicked off this mess in the first place. Now the pollies, pressured of course by business lobbies, are scrambling to find a solution.
So how does it feel to be bitchslapped, Dept'y Sheriff? Uncle Sam gonna come riding to your rescue, fair damsel in distress? Thanks for costing us billions.

I like a good conspiracy theory...especially if it is plausible. It goes like this. The CCP have a whole range of deadly chemicals they could use to destroy countries but they held back as the down side if caught out was catastrophic. So some CCP boffin came up with a virus and a plausible story how to release it and destroy the rest of the world and be in a position to become top dog. Of course killing a few Chinese peasants along the way would make it seem like their story had some validity. Unfortunately for them the virus hasn't been as useful killing off the foreigners jn large numbers but has done a reasonable job damaging the world economy. Where are the Myth Busters when you need them???