Thread: Australia V China

Originally Posted by OhOh

At least the UK diplomats can act, swim and retrieve!

Yes, it's a pleasant change from those chinky fisherman lobbing dead slaves into the water, eh?

Originally Posted by OhOh

At least the UK diplomats can act, swim and retrieve!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, it's a pleasant change from those chinky fisherman lobbing dead slaves into the water, eh?

And of course walking over the prostate bodies of children. Oh, speaking of children - OhOh, any more jokes about children being molested by adult males you want to share?

^Why am I not surprised to hear you believe it is a subject of humor.

If you cure them a bit, and add nam pla, Westerners just think they are fish.

Originally Posted by OhOh

^Why am I not surprised to hear you believe it is a subject of humor.

No one thinks it's funny except you and your absurd "9 year old man" comments.

Those turds in Crapberra need to grow some balls and start limiting imports from China. Cut 20% a year off the total till the commos act reasonably. We got along just fine before they arrived and I am sure other Asian countries can supply a lot of the consumer goods.

Originally Posted by OhOh

^Why am I not surprised to hear you believe it is a subject of humor.

Nice try at deflecting, that's the second time you've tried - doesn't work, you filthy piece of shit - there were enough comments condemning you, to wit:

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No one thinks it's funny except you and your absurd "9 year old man" comments.

Trying to be funny with pedophilia . . . nice one, OhOh.
Again, it's easy. 'Oh, not funny. Right.'
But no. You double down and continue, now going to blaming others. First MissKit, now me . . . fuck you, pedophile-comedian.

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

Those turds in Crapberra need to grow some balls and start limiting imports from China. Cut 20% a year off the total till the commos act reasonably. We got along just fine before they arrived and I am sure other Asian countries can supply a lot of the consumer goods.

Quite the wordsmith, very American of you.

Ok, what imports do you want to limit? 20%? Per annum even . . . and force China to change because 20% of fuck all is still 20% of . . . well, fuck all.
Luckily China will just stand idly by and think to themselves what a reasonable action that is and not retaliate.

Two problems with that . . . there are few substitutes for the consumer goods that Australia imports from China - sure, you can buy high end German goods to make up for it, but how many Aussies want to to or can? Job losses - nice one.
Second - China ramps up its no-Aussie products stance and "Crapberra" (chuckle) is left with its by far largest customer dropping it. Job losses - nice one.

Yes, in 1920 'we' got along without China but the world changes. Unfortunately many countries have tied their future to the 800 pound gorilla - with NZ doing so again last week despite seeing what is being done to Australia - and others.

You're sure other Asian countries can supply consumer goods we/everyone buys from China? Like who? The problem is that most western/foreign companies have set up production in China to use their not-so-cheap-anymore-labor and their 1.3 billion population/market.

What would you have "Crapberra" (chuckle) do? (well, aside from destroy the export sector and drive most businesses into bankruptcy, of course)

I'm afraid PH when it comes to the Dismal science, most people just do not have a clue.

Originally Posted by sabang

I'm afraid PH when it comes to the Dismal science, most people just do not have a clue.

Uuuh, I haven't hear that term since Uni in Sydney when I was studying . . . economics

But yes, you're right. A simpleton's way of thinking with a simpleton's 'solution'.

Originally Posted by sabang

when it comes to the Dismal science, most people just do not have a clue.

Probably the science, where the most people have a clue

Here's your on-line PhD from Trump Uni then, for knowing how to balance a household budget.

Thanks

Coming from a region of the world where we make a living from cutting each others hair, I feel that I deserve it.

In conclusion:

Drop dead, Milton

Drop dead, Milton

Awful man. He's already dead.

Originally Posted by sabang

Awful man.

Originally Posted by sabang

the Dismal science

Oh yes

Pinochet loved him and vice versa



Ph studied in Chicago, didn't he ?

Apparently so, but I don't know what.

Originally Posted by helge

Ph studied in Chicago, didn't he ?

. . . yes, among other places . . . but my lips are sealed.

Steak eating technology?
Ghetto murder techniques?
How to erase the vile ghost of Milton Friedman?

Not sure what else Chicago is known for, except freezing wind.

Originally Posted by helge

Ph studied in Chicago, didn't he ?

The Chicago Boys

Good for PH that he thought Monetarisme to be a school of french impressionistic painting

Originally Posted by sabang

Milton Friedman?

Originally Posted by helge

Heard any football results tonight ?

Ich bin Österreicher . . .

Originally Posted by sabang

How to erase the vile ghost of Milton Friedman?

Milton - Uni of Chicago
PH - Northwestern

Never the twain shall meet.

Originally Posted by sabang

Not sure what else Chicago is known for, except freezing wind.

I must admit to not being fond of the city, but it is quite an important part of the US:

Brilliant architecture
Rail, water and air hubs
Rahm and Obama
Stock Exchange

etc etc etc . . . politically and economically important . . . but not necessarily a brilliant place to live, imho. (though I lived near the Uni in the northern suburbs)

Stock Exchange

Actually, commodity futures- it is indeed the worlds largest hub. Lets not get started on commodity traders.

Australia warned of 'countermeasures' from China over new defence pact with Japan

China has used a jingoistic state media outlet to slam an historic defence deal between Australia and Japan, saying it is "inevitable" it will take some sort of countermeasures.

Key points:

Japan and Australia have agreed to a pact that will intensify their military cooperation
China has accused both countries of acting "at the behest" of the United States
The Federal Government says the pact will have no bearing on Australia's relationship with China

The defence pact, called the Reciprocal Access Agreement, was agreed to '"in principle" during Prime Minister Scott Morrison's state visit to Japan, but still has not been formally signed.

The agreement would pave the way for the Australian and Japanese militaries to have access to each other's bases, and would deepen cooperation between the two countries.

China's Government has not formally responded to the agreement, but has used a nationalistic unofficial media outlet to say Japan and Australian were setting "a bad example by interpreting their biggest trading partner, China, as a 'security threat' acting at the behest of the US".

The editorial in the Global Times was published in both Chinese and English for domestic and foreign audiences and framed the two countries as pawns of the United States.

"China is unlikely to remain indifferent to US moves aimed at inciting countries to gang up against China in the long run," it read.

"It's inevitable that China will take some sort of countermeasures.

"Countries like Japan and Australia have been used as US tools. The strategic risk for a tool to be damaged is certainly higher than that of a user."

Some other state media outlets framed the agreement as an historical contradiction, pointing out that Japan is the only country that has ever bombed Australia.
Scott Morrison bumps elbows with Yoshihide Suga. They are smiling.
Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison met with Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga on Tuesday.(ABC News: Yumi Asada)

"You could describe the deal as a paramilitary agreement," said Shi Yinhong, a Professor at Renmin University in Beijing.

"Although it's not a promise to aide the other country if under attack, it is however a deal to place one's own military in the other country for joint exercises.

"This is a very important step in establishing an Indo-Pacific Alliance against China."

Federal Trade Minister Simon Birmingham insisted the defence pact would not have any bearing on Australia's souring relationship with China, which has resulted in Beijing putting unofficial trade bans or restrictions on around $6 billion of Australia's annual exports.

"This will have no bearing in that regard. Japan and Australia are nations that share common values, share a commitment to democratic principles, and it's little surprise we would want to work cooperatively," he said.
China's latest move straight from its punishment playbook

The Morrison Government seems to be betting that all it needs to do is hold its nerve and hold the line when it comes to China's trade threats, writes Stephen Dziedzic.
Read more

China's Commerce Minister Zhong Shan has, for more than six months, refused to speak to Mr Birmingham about China's series of trade strikes on Australian exports, but previously publicly linked them to Australia launching or joining multiple World Trade Organisation anti-dumping cases against various Chinese exports.

In recent weeks Beijing has made it increasingly clear it expects Australia to make diplomatic overtures to heal the relationship.

A Foreign Ministry spokesman reiterated on Tuesday that China bears "absolutely no responsibility" for the worsening ties.

In an answer to a question asked by China's Government media, spokesman Zhao Lijian identified Australia's public comments on Hong Kong, Xinjiang and Taiwan as problems, along with anti-interference laws being used to "slander" China.

He also listed Australia's blocking of Huawei for the 5G network and various Chinese investments on "national security" grounds as examples of Australia damaging the relationship.

He additionally noted Australia had joined the call for an independent investigation of the coronavirus pandemic, which originated in and spread from Wuhan.

https://www.abc. net.au/news/2020-11-18/china-australia-relations-sour--diplomat-releases-list/12897788

Australian officials respond angrily to fresh attacks from Chinese diplomats

Australian officials have responded angrily after a Chinese diplomat in Canberra launched a fresh attack on the Federal Government, reeling off a long list of grievances and perceived slights.

Key points:

A Chinese official laid out several complaints against Australia on Tuesday
This has further soured the relationship between the two countries
The complaints have been deemed unreasonable by Australian officials

Late Tuesday, Nine Newspapers reported that an anonymous Chinese official had provided it with a document laying out more than a dozen complaints against Australia.

Many of the allegations have been previously made by Chinese officials in recent months.

The document says Australia has unfairly blocked Chinese investment, spread "disinformation" about China's efforts to contain coronavirus, falsely accused Beijing of cyber-attacks, and engaged in "incessant wanton interference" in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Xinjiang.

It also lambasts the Federal Government's decision to ban Huawei from 5G networks and criticises Australia's push against foreign interference, accusing it of "recklessly" seizing the property of Chinese journalists and allowing Federal MPs to issue "outrageous condemnation of the governing party of China".

The relationship between China and Australia has nose-dived this year.

Beijing has hit several Australian exports with sanctions and has made thinly-veiled warnings that more products will be targeted.

On Tuesday, China also responded angrily to a new defence pact between Australia and Japan.

But Australia is increasingly concerned by incessant cyber-attacks emanating from China, as well as what it believes are persistent attempts by the Chinese Government to interfere in domestic Australian politics.

The Chinese Embassy's decision to hand the list to the media seems designed to ratchet up the pressure on Australia to make concessions on key issues.

Nine Newspapers reported that the Chinese embassy official said Australia might be able to repair its relationship with China if it changed some of its listed positions.

But the list drew a contemptuous response from some Australian officials. One told the ABC that it was a "very familiar recitation of grievances and false statements."
China's latest move straight from its punishment playbook

The Morrison Government seems to be betting that all it needs to do is hold its nerve and hold the line when it comes to China's trade threats, writes Stephen Dziedzic.
Read more
Decisions made in the national interest

The Federal Government believes the complaints are unreasonable and misrepresent Australia's position.

It also believes that the list shows Australia has done nothing to deliberately inflame ties with Beijing but has simply stood by its principles and sovereignty.

The Government maintains there are sound national security reasons for blocking Huawei and stopping some investments from the mainland.

It believes Australia's push for an independent inquiry into the COVID-19 outbreak was justified, and it has every right to publicly state its concerns about human rights abuses in China.

The head of the National Security College, Rory Medcalf, said on Twitter that the latest tactic deployed by the Chinese Government was "unfortunate" and ineffective.

https://www.abc. net.au/news/2020-11-18/china-australia-relations-sour--diplomat-releases-list/12897788

Whiny chinky c u n t s. It's high time the world ganged up on them and gave them a fucking good slap.

Originally Posted by Looper

perceived slights.

Fuck 'em . . .