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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    double the tariff on one of their products
    But it will hit Apple's ...... profits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The "here today, gone tomorrow" politician,
    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    ...as in democratically elected?
    The China-bot can't fathom someone who is not President for life, like Xi. It's clearly a weakness in a democratic system to have elections with the population involved



    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As in undemocratically appointed ministers, installed in their position by the Prime Minister
    You're quite clueless as to how a government is elected in a democratically based system, despite your protestations that you are Canadian/British and NOT from China.
    Try again, the chinks in your thinly-cloaked fantasy armour are showing

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    The China-bot can't fathom someone who is not President for life, like Xi. It's clearly a weakness in a democratic system to have elections with the population involved





    You're quite clueless as to how a government is elected in a democratically based system, despite your protestations that you are Canadian/British and NOT from China.
    Try again, the chinks in your thinly-cloaked fantasy armour are showing
    I found myself liking a couple of his posts on the Diego Maradona tribute thread.

    And then clicked on his usual nonsense here.

    I'm honestly wondering if he and Klondyke are the same bot.

    After all, is it really likely to have 2 people religiously spouting their Soviet/China/any old filthy regime propaganda on a random Thai forum predominantly aimed at westerners?

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    Australia demands China apologise for posting 'repugnant' fake image

    Australia has demanded China apologise for posting a fake picture on a government Twitter account that depicted an Australian soldier murdering an Afghan child.

    In a televised address, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said Beijing should be "utterly ashamed" for sharing the "repugnant" image.

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    It comes amid escalating political tensions between the two countries.

    The image referred to alleged war crimes by some Australian soldiers.

    Warning: This story contains an image some people might find distressing.

    Earlier this month, a report found that 25 Australian soldiers were allegedly involved in the murders of 39 Afghan civilians and prisoners between 2009 and 2013.

    The findings from the Australian Defence Force (ADF) inquiry sparked widespread condemnation, and are now being investigated by police.

    Australia to sack troops over Afghan killings

    On Monday, China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Lijian Zhao posted a doctored image which portrayed an Australian soldier with a bloody knife next to a child. The child is seen holding a lamb.

    The Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported the image appeared to be a reference to unsubstantiated rumours that elite Australian soldiers used knives to murder two Afghan teenagers. However, the inquiry found no evidence to support the rumours.

    The tweet said: "Shocked by murder of Afghan civilians & prisoners by Australian soldiers. We strongly condemn such acts, and call for holding them accountable."

    Mr Morrison described the post as "truly repugnant, deeply offensive, utterly outrageous".

    "The Chinese government should be totally ashamed of this post," he said.

    Australia has also requested Twitter remove the post from its platform, describing it as "disinformation".

    Australia demands China apologise for posting '''repugnant''' fake image - BBC News

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    Scott Morrison demands apology from China over 'repugnant' fake tweet showing Australian soldier murdering child

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is demanding the Chinese Government delete a "repugnant" tweet attacking the Australian Defence Force in the wake of a landmark war crimes inquiry.

    WARNING: This story contains graphic content that some readers may find upsetting.
    Key points:

    China's Foreign Ministry spokesman tweeted a fake image showing an Australian soldier murdering a child
    Scott Morrison is demanding a formal apology from the Chinese Government over the image
    Last week China said it "strongly condemned" the actions of Australian soldiers who allegedly committed war crimes

    The Chinese Government posted the extraordinary and violent fake image of an Australian soldier murdering a child, as relations between the two nations continue to spiral downwards.

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    China and Russia have both attacked Australia in the wake of the release of the Brereton report which found Australian special forces committed at least 39 unlawful killings during the war in Afghanistan.

    Mr Morrison said the Government had reached out to the Chinese Government and contacted Twitter to have the post removed.

    "Australia's seeking an apology from the Chinese Government for this outrageous post," he said.

    "We're also seeking its removal immediately.

    "It is utterly outrageous and cannot be justified on any basis whatsoever, the Chinese Government should be totally ashamed of this post."

    "There are undoubtedly tensions that exist between China and Australia, but this is not how you deal with them," Mr Morrison added.

    Foreign Minister Marise Payne said there was no justification for the tweet which was the most "egregious" example of social media disinformation she had witnessed in her career.

    "The Australian Government has called in the Chinese ambassador and sought an apology from the ambassador in relation to this tweet," she told Question Time.

    "We will [also] be conveying that message directly in Beijing through our ambassador."

    Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese said he supported the Prime Minister's comments.

    "Australia's condemnation of this image is above politics and we all stand as a nation in condemning it," he said.

    Shadow Foreign Minister Penny Wong also deplored the tweet, describing it as as "gratuitous" and "inflammatory".

    "This is not the behaviour of a responsible, mature international power," she said.

    "These tactics will be met with unified condemnation in the Australian community and they will be judged harshly by the international community.

    "The allegations in the Brereton report have horrified Australia.

    "What sets us apart is the dignified, transparent and accountable manner of our response."
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    The ABC understands that Department of Foreign Affairs Secretary Frances Adamson has spoken to Chinese ambassador Cheng Jingye about Australia's position on the tweet.

    Last week China's Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said China "strongly condemned" the soldiers' actions, and said the report "fully exposed the hypocrisy of the human rights and freedom these Western countries are always chanting".

    But today Mr Zhao dramatically intensified his attack on Australia, saying on Twitter he was "shocked by murder of Afghan civilians & prisoners by Australian soldiers."

    He accompanied the tweet with the photoshopped image, which appeared to show a grinning Australian soldier holding a bloody knife to the throat of a child who is holding a lamb.

    The child's face is covered with a blue cloth. The text beneath the photo reads: "Don't be afraid, we are coming to bring you peace!"

    The photo appears to be a reference to rumours that members of the SAS cut the throats of two 14-year-old Afghan boys who they suspected were Taliban sympathisers.

    But those hearsay accounts were never substantiated during the four-year-long Brereton inquiry.

    The shocking image seems deliberately designed to provoke anger in Australia. One Federal Government source dismissed the photo as "rank propaganda".

    Last week Mr Morrison tried to reframe the debate over the bilateral relationship by praising China's economic record and urging it not to view Australia through the lens of strategic competition with the United States.

    But on Friday the Chinese Government announced sweeping tariffs on Australian wine exports which are likely to cripple parts of the industry.

    The shocking image posted from Zhao Lijian seems to indicate that Beijing's hostility towards Australia has cemented.

    One Federal Government source said the fact the post was given the green light showed that Beijing was intent on displaying contempt towards Australia and would continue ramping up pressure in an attempt to extract concessions.

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    Filthy chinky scum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    The Chinese Government posted the extraordinary and violent fake image of an Australian soldier murdering a child
    Enter WaahWaah and Kloondyke justifying this vile act with endless articles about how good China is and how and the west is . . . one can only hope that Biden will be merciless when dealing with China on a poltical and economic front

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Scott Morrison demands
    the chins will be chortling gum bey and sniggering

    and scotty from marketing will be happy that there is more faux outrage to divert attention from the corruption stories about both state and federal coalition governments

    feel free to be manipulated , but that vile scum does not talk for all australians - I personally could not give a fcuk about twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    the chins will be chortling gum bey and sniggering
    Not to be pedantic (well maybe a little)
    but it's gan bei (dry cup)

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    one can only hope that Biden will be merciless when dealing with China on a poltical and economic front
    Didn't he start already "be merciless"?
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    Even with help of son and granddaughter...
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    Banned again?

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    Hey, the real people don't like this fluger;.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Hey, the real people don't like this fluger;.
    Go to bed you alcoholic retard.

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    China refuses to apologise for doctored image of Australian soldier tweeted by government official

    China has refused to apologise for one of its officials posting a graphic image Prime Minister Scott Morrison has labelled as "repugnant", demanding instead that Australia do some "soul searching" in the wake of a damning war crimes investigation.

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    Key points:

    A Chinese Government spokeswoman says it is Australia who should feel ashamed of its soldiers' actions
    China's Foreign Ministry spokesman tweeted a picture showing an Australian soldier threatening to kill a child

    Scott Morrison has demanded the Chinese Government apologise for the tweet and asked Twitter to remove it

    On Monday, China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) spokesman Zhao Lijian tweeted the picture created by a Chinese artist, depicting an Australian soldier holding a bloody knife to the throat of an Afghan child.

    The post was in response to the findings of the long-running Brereton inquiry, which recommended 19 current and serving special forces soldiers face criminal investigation for the murder of at least 39 Afghan civilians and prisoners.

    Shortly after the post, Prime Minister Scott Morrison described it as "outrageous", demanding it be removed and an apology be issued by the Chinese Government.

    Such a response was not forthcoming.

    "The Australian Government should do some soul searching and bring the culprits to justice, and offer an official apology to the Afghan people and make the solemn pledge that they will never repeat such crimes," Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said.

    "Earlier, they said the Chinese Government should feel ashamed but it is Australian soldiers who committed such cruel crimes.

    "Shouldn't the Australian Government feel ashamed? Shouldn't they feel ashamed for their soldiers killing innocent Afghan civilians?"
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    In releasing the findings of the war crimes investigation earlier this month, Australian Defence Force (ADF) Chief Angus Campbell "sincerely and unreservedly" apologised to the Afghan people for the "wrongdoing" of special forces.

    "The Australian side is reacting so strongly to my colleague's Twitter does that mean that they think the cold-blooded murder of Afghan innocent civilians is justified while other people's condemnation of such crimes are not justified?" Ms Hua said.

    "Afghan lives matter."
    Read the redacted IGADF report here.

    The criticism of Mr Zhao's post came quickly, with allegations of hypocrisy by Beijing for seizing upon the findings of the Brereton inquiry.

    China has been accused of gross human rights violations against the ethnic Uyghur minority in Xinjiang province, characterised as "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide".

    The irony of a senior official using Twitter to launch such a political attack was also raised, given the censorship of the social media platform by the Chinese Government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Didn't he start already "be merciless"?
    He's not the president yet, fuckwit. This may have escaped your attention . . . as so many things do.


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    They are desperately trying to put the blame for the Wuhan virus on someone else. So post pictures of batmunchers and see how they like it.

    You don't even need to fake the pictures.

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    China refuses to apologise to Australia for fake soldier image

    China has accused Australia of trying to "deflect public attention" from alleged war crimes by its soldiers in Afghanistan after Canberra expressed outrage over a "repugnant" tweet.

    Australia has demanded an apology for sharing the fake image of an Australian soldier killing an Afghan child.

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    Beijing has now said that Australia was trying to "blame China for the worsening of bilateral ties".

    Relations between the two nations have plummeted to a new low in recent days.

    The tweet with the fake image was posted in response to a damning report last month about alleged Australian war crimes.

    The Australian Defence Force said it had found "credible information" that 25 Australian soldiers were involved in the murders of 39 Afghan civilians and prisoners between 2009 and 2013.

    On Monday, China joined in the widespread condemnation of the findings - now under police investigation - but the graphic doctored image shared by foreign ministry spokesman Lijian Zhao has triggered furious reactions in Canberra and beyond.

    Australia demands China apology for 'repugnant' post
    The year when Australia and China hit 'lowest ebb'

    Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said Beijing should be "utterly ashamed" for sharing the "repugnant" image, demanding an apology.

    The tweet has also prompted Jacinda Ardern, premier of neighbouring New Zealand, to raise its concerns with Beijing.

    But in its response on Tuesday, the Chinese Embassy in Australia attacked Mr Morrison's remarks without offering an apology.

    "The accusations made are simply to serve two purposes. One is to deflect public attention from the horrible atrocities by certain Australian soldiers. The other is to blame China for the worsening of bilateral ties. There may be another attempt to stoke domestic nationalism," it said in a statement.

    "It's our advice that the Australian side face up to the crimes committed by Australian soldiers in Afghanistan, hold those perpetrators accountable and bring justice to the victims," the statement added.

    Bilateral relations between China and Australia have been deeply strained this year after Canberra led calls for a probe into the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    A few months ago the last two correspondents working for Australian media in China were evacuated on the advice of diplomats.

    More recently two Australian academics were banned from entering China.

    There have also been ongoing discussions about Beijing's alleged interference in Australian affairs while economic tensions have grown with trade stoppages and tariffs imposed by China, including tariffs of up to 200% on Australian wine.

    On Tuesday premier Arden said New Zealand had directly raised concerns with Chinese authorities.

    "It was an unfactual post, and of course that would concern us. So that is something we have raised directly in the manner that New Zealand does when we have such concerns," she told reporters in parliament in the capital Wellington.

    China refuses to apologise to Australia for fake soldier image - BBC News

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    Chinese officials accuse Scott Morrison of stoking nationalism in response to fake Afghan tweet as PM defends position on WeChat

    China has hit back at the Australian Government, accusing it of attempting to "stoke domestic nationalism" by demanding an apology for a tweet depicting an Australian soldier holding a knife to the throat of an Afghan child.

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    Key points:

    The Chinese embassy says Australia has misread and overreacted to the tweet
    The image was a reference to allegations raised in a review of the ADF
    Australia has demanded China remove the Twitter post and apologise

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison, meanwhile, has taken to Chinese social media platform WeChat to again press Australia's position.

    Beijing has already rejected demands to apologise for the image, which was shared by China's foreign ministry spokesman, Zhao Lijian, on Monday.

    Now, the Chinese embassy in Canberra has issued a fresh statement accusing the Government of trying to deflect attention from atrocities committed by Australian soldiers in Afghanistan.

    The embassy has also suggested the Federal Government is trying to stoke nationalism in Australia.

    "We would like to further stress the following: The rage and roar of some Australian politicians and media is nothing but misreading of, and overreaction to, Mr Zhao's tweet," a spokesperson said.

    "The accusations made are simply to serve two purposes.

    "One is to deflect public attention from the horrible atrocities by certain Australian soldiers.

    "The other is to blame China for the worsening bilateral ties.

    "There may be another attempt to stoke domestic nationalism."

    At a press conference on Tuesday, Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying echoed the embassy's comments that the Government's reaction was intended to deflect attention away from the issues raised in the war crimes report.

    "I believe many people like me are wondering why the Australian side is reacting so surprisingly strongly and has been trying to shift the blame," she said.

    "And tried to replace that with a tough stance on China."

    It came as Mr Morrison took to WeChat and used the report by the Inspector-General of the Australian Defence Force to highlight the difference between how Australia and China handled sensitive matters.

    "Australia's ability to deal with issues in a transparent and honest way is a strength of this country, and one that recognises all those who serve it," he wrote.


    "Even when incidents allegedly occur that require action, we have established honest and transparent procedures for dealing with them.

    "This is the way a free, democratic and enlightened nation should be."

    Mr Morrison also highlighted what he suggested was a disconnect between the views of Beijing's ruling party and the greater Chinese public, particularly those who called Australia home.

    "This post containing false images of Australian soldiers does not diminish the respect and appreciation for the Chinese community in Australia, nor does it diminish our friendship with the Chinese people," he wrote.

    "Our Chinese Australian community will continue to play a pivotal role in ensuring that our country remains a successful multicultural nation!"


    Last week China confirmed it would impose a 200 per cent tariff on Australian wine while it conducted an anti-dumping investigation.

    "All of this is obviously not helpful to the resetting of the bilateral relationship," the spokesperson said.

    "It's our advice that the Australian side face up to the crimes committed by the Australian soldiers in Afghanistan, hold those perpetrators accountable and bring justice to victims."

    On the release of the Brereton report into alleged war crimes, the chief of the Australian Defence Force, General Angus Campbell, offered an unreserved apology to the people of Afghanistan for soldiers' actions.

    He also said soldiers accused of committing war crimes would be dealt with under Australia's justice system and other disciplinary action would be taken on a "case by case" basis, but that nothing was off the table.

    The embassy also confirmed the secretary of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT), Frances Adamson, had contacted the Chinese ambassador, Cheng Jingye.

    "The ambassador refuted the unwarranted accusations as absolutely unacceptable," the spokesperson said.

    https://www.abc. net.au/news/2020-12-01/china-accuses-scott-morrison-of-stoking-nationalism-afghanistan/12939734

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    The original strategy of Beijing's sanctions was to try and use economic coercion to compel Australia's political capitulation.

    The gratuitously offensive tweet sanctioned from the top tier of Beijing's government seems to me to be a misstep.

    Being so wantonly offensive is unlikely to result in receiving the cooperation they originally desired.

    It seems to reveal that Beijing has become frustrated and now fears that Australia is maybe not going to capitulate which would be an embarrassment to a fledgling superpower trying to put on a show of coercive political and economic strength to the watching world.

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    China is finally sticking up for itself in the media. But this doctored pic was a bit much. They have a lot to learn from the Russians , about how to respond to provocations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    China refuses to apologise to Australia for fake soldier image
    Harry refuses to apologise to chinkies for real Wuhan virus batmunching image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    accusing it of attempting to "stoke domestic nationalism"
    scotty from marketing has his skill level dissed by the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Chinese officials accuse Scott Morrison of stoking nationalism in response to fake Afghan tweet as PM defends position on WeChat
    Oh, the irony is off the charts with this one - China uses every possibility to stoke nationalism and xenophobia - fuck 'em

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    China is finally sticking up for itself in the media.
    Yea . . . nah. China hasn't stood up for itself in the past? You can just get fucked

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    They have a lot to learn from the Russians , about how to respond to provocations.
    Provocations?

    Again, you talk utter rubbish, so get fucked and tell us about your most recent LB bj


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    Australia is a test case for China. It is using its economic clout to try to bend a western democracy to its will. It already does so with Asia with the usual graft and corruption. What Australia does is almost less important to what western democracies do. Already over 100 politicians around the world are encouraging people to buy Australian wine, a small start.
    Western democracies need to leave China in no doubt that this is unexceptable by helping to support Australia in this be it by showing a commitment to purchase some of those specific exports blacklisted by China or at least expressing much more vocal support than most have done so far.
    Allowing China to get away with these tactics will see them repeat them on others. We can expect little support from the E.U. which has much more pressing problems like installing transgender toilets in Brussels.
    We should expect and get support from the U.K. and the USA at the very least as Australia has supported them in the past however I wont hold my breath. Failure to support Australia on this will send a signal to China that they can call the tune regardless of how out of key.

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    scotty is making noises for his and the LNP image - not for australia

    we should be ignoring the cheap shots and concentrating on diversifying our market

    unfortunately , scotty wants to move conversation away from the corruption of several LNP govts and his scummy gas led recovery plan - it will be interesting to see if the foxtel business break up and sale to delaware registered companies attracts attention

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