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    Indeed miss kit or You (Socal) can wallow in your own misery

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Yet people in Thailand and Philippines have a richer life. Closer to their families and neighbors. Happier.
    That's what we're led to believe but in my long time in various parts of Asia I've understood that Asian families are far more dysfunctional than western societies. Yes, they live together . . . out of necessity, not free will. Yes, the grandparents take care of the kids while both parents work - because they have to and don't have a personal life until they die, stuck in a house. Yes, many have maids - who are far to often physically abused, mentally tortured and made to work in at least one household for 16-18 hours a day etc ad infinitum.

    The romanticised idea of the happy, traditional an respectful Asian family is utterly ridiculous

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    ^ I’ve seen all that, too. Still can’t say Westerners are happier than Asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    That's what we're led to believe but in my long time in various parts of Asia I've understood that Asian families are far more dysfunctional than western societies. Yes, they live together . . . out of necessity, not free will. Yes, the grandparents take care of the kids while both parents work - because they have to and don't have a personal life until they die, stuck in a house. Yes, many have maids - who are far to often physically abused, mentally tortured and made to work in at least one household for 16-18 hours a day etc ad infinitum.

    The romanticised idea of the happy, traditional an respectful Asian family is utterly ridiculous
    This is not about family life. Its about civic life. My wife tells me all the time that the kids around the neighborhood would play and look after themselves all day


    Anyway Pananma, do you like Asia ? Have you ever spent time in a suburban clusterfuck ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    What about the country? Could you live in the country. I mean the countryside or however you might describe it.
    The bush.
    I live in the (rural) country on 2 Ha (13 rai) which is enough to be looking after.
    Friends with farms find it very confining.
    Townies that move to small rural blocks feel like they’re on ten thousand acres.
    It’s all relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Indeed miss kit or You (Socal) can wallow in your own misery
    What are you on about now ? I am just reflecting on how I grew up and why i liked Thailand so much when i went the first time.James Howard Kuntsler isnt just onto something, he is 100% right.

    And again, dont you live in a bustling part of Asia you plonker ?

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    I am curious what Tax or TheGent aka seekingassylum would have to say about this topic.

    For all that is said about Pattaya, the place is fucking electric. It has oodles of character. The trees are even placed correctly on Beach road per James Kunstler's specs. The shopping, formal and informal. Motorcycles and pedestrians out number cars. There's also the view point up on the hill. The place is a jewel. You dont have to do anything to feel like you are doing something. Just walking down the road is an experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    This is not about family life.
    Addressing Misskit's post

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    My wife tells me all the time that the kids around the neighborhood would play and look after themselves all day
    Sure, did she tell you about the alcoholism, rape, domestic abuse, crime etc...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Anyway Pananma, do you like Asia ?
    Yup, some things

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Have you ever spent time in a suburban clusterfuck ?
    No. I grew up in suburbia at times

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Still cant say Westerners are happier than Asians.
    Nope, safer, healthier and more looked after yes. Happier? That's subjective.

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    ^ those questions of happiness and family do overlap with the topic. But remember , I'm taking aim specifically at North America. My favorite country before I went to Thailand was Croatia.

    Some parts of Europe are far BETTER than Thailand in regard to civic life. But as far as raw stimulative horsepower goes , you can't beat Thailand and SE Asia in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I am perpetually strategic renting suburban Vancouver
    Ok - in the simplest of terms.

    You know where you are and you know your current situation. Determine where you want to be and connect the two dots.

    Develop a plan. Develop a timeline. Identify obstacles and define methodology to overcome them.

    Good luck with it - it's up to you.

    Or, if you are a lazy fuck you can just accept what's coming down the line and blame those before you for your miserable life and lifestyle.

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    I like life on the streets, and that's one thing I miss living here in the Adelaide 'burbs. The main thing, actually. Ideally, I'd like to end up someplace where I can ditch the car entirely- so that means either close to a city or major town centre here in Oz, or any number of places in SE Asia. Life in the 'burbs does seem a bit sterile really, maybe all well and good if you're raising a family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Oh FFS sad whiney asshole.

    I hate fucking whingers.
    whiney prick
    Now shut the fuck up.
    I don't think Cujo understood the my struggle "mein kampf" reference

    He thought I meant it literally. No Cujo. If you were more cultured, you would have understood it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    "mein kamf"
    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    If you were more cultured, you would have understood it
    If you were more cultured you'd be able to spell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I don't think Cujo understood the my struggle "mein kampf" reference

    He thought I meant it literally. No Cujo. If you were more cultured, you would have understood it
    Cultured like you you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    No Cujo. If you were more cultured, you would have understood it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    again, dont you live in a bustling part of Asia you plonker ?
    nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Cultured like you you mean?
    By your reaction , you interpreted it as my whinge. But it was a play on Mien Kampf. Because Hitler goes into what influenced him as a young man and how he tries to digest it. As I do in the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    By your reaction , you interpreted it as my whinge. But it was a play on Mien Kampf. Because Hitler goes into what influenced him as a young man and how he tries to digest it. As I do in the post.
    And you're whinging about your terrible upbringing in a middle class suburban environment with healthy nutritious meals provided by parents who also provided a secure dwelling, (I'm sure you had your own room in a detached house) and access to medical and dental care as required as well as appropriate clothing and a good education and you're comparing that to some kind of 'struggle'???
    You should quit while you're ahead.
    If we stop testing right now wed have very few cases, if any. Donald J Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    And you're whinging about your terrible upbringing in a middle class suburban environment with healthy nutritious meals provided by parents who also provided a secure dwelling, (I'm sure you had your own room in a detached house) and access to medical and dental care as required as well as appropriate clothing and a good education and you're comparing that to some kind of 'struggle'???
    You should quit while you're ahead.
    Life is far more complicated than that now isn't it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...^subjective generalization: maybe your suburb was a cultural waste land...mine included a university, a community college, an excellent library system, public schools with strong sports programs...and lots of Jews...
    Same here . Quiet suburban bedroom community, with nice homes,nice people who say "Hi" when they pass you in the street while you a jogging in the morning, even if they don't know you, and hold a door open for you at the store. We Have a community college, an adult education center, with any classes in most subjects , hobbies, languages and sports. community swimming pools, tennis courts . Masonic lodge, Nights of Columbus, Elks, Rotary. Our Theater provides professional , and mature involvement venues. Group Kayaking and busicling ,Hiking trails. The sea turtles are laying eggs and my daughter is involved with an environmental group protecting the Eggs until hatching.
    Many of the titles at our library is available on Kindle for free, I download one almost every week now that I am retired.
    Life is what you make it, and you almost always find what you are looking for.
    Anyway. This is Steve wasting away in suburbia.
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    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    Same here . Quiet suburban bedroom community, with nice homes,nice people who say "Hi" when they pass you in the street while you a jogging in the morning, even if they don't know you, and hold a door open for you at the store. We Have a community college, an adult education center, with any classes in most subjects , hobbies, languages and sports. community swimming pools, tennis courts . Masonic lodge, Nights of Columbus, Elks, Rotary. Our Theater provides professional , and mature involvement venues. Group Kayaking and busicling ,Hiking trails. The sea turtles are laying eggs and my daughter is involved with an environmental group protecting the Eggs until hatching.
    Many of the titles at our library is available on Kindle for free, I download one almost every week now that I am retired.
    Life is what you make it, and you almost always find what you are looking for.
    Anyway. This is Steve wasting away in suburbia.
    I am sure those Hi's in the morning as people jogged by was so fulfilling when you were 18 years old and full of piss and vinegar

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    What a load of whiney bullshit.
    Pull yourself together.
    Stop the self pity party and get on with it.

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    You know what those are called deeks ? Value traps.

    If those houses had any redeeming value, now or in the relative future, a Boomer with his ponzi money would have scooped them up 5 years ago. I have been through all of this the last 10 years
    Last edited by Backspin; 14-08-2020 at 04:13 AM.

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