Thread: A new look to remove racial stereotyping

Originally Posted by English Noodles

I'm certainly no expert on the subject but this comment interested me. Are you sure that this was the case? It appears it may be false.

Fact check: Were Indigenous Australians classified under a flora and fauna act until the 1967 referendum? - ABC News

Fairly certain although as per I stand to be corrected. Not by that link though...





Edit: though Googling it meself it appears I was wrong

Edit to the edit: appears to have been conflated with disenfranchisement

^Not sure what happened there.

I'll try and find a link that works.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Fairly certain although as per I stand to be corrected. Not by that link though...

They weren't, but it's been a myth for a long time

Fact check: Were Indigenous Australians classified under a flora and fauna act until the 1967 referendum? - ABC News

Flora and Fauna Act Myth - Wikipedia

^^Yep, managed to access Noodles link (the non-dodgy porn loaded one ).

Seems it's similar to -- though the opposite of -- the whole Moriori myth in NZ which is still pervasive and persists to this day.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

No, I don't think it is either shocking nor damming.

Well then that's on you isn't it.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Ant, out of curiosity how do you feel about Japan, the Japanese Ethnic Purity?

Dunno, have they ever had a racially based immigration policy?

Regardless if your argument boils down to 'Well X Are Racist Too' then you are doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

How do you feel about Thai's refusal for non-Thais to own land?

Surely that is a Racist Law?

It's arguably more economically and protectionism grounded than anything else.

And again, is that really a benchmark you want to set.

Originally Posted by Chico

34% of the jailed inmates in NZ jails are Maori,hmm something not right there.

I will correct myself there,its a lot higher, NZ has one of the highest incarceration rates in the western world against its people.

Why are there so many Maori in New Zealand's prisons? | Longform | Al Jazeera

Originally Posted by Chico

NZ has one of the highest incarceration rates in the western world against its people.

Utter bollocks, it's 145th: List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia

As an aside, it's refreshing to have a discussion about diverse ideas, respecting others opinions without resorting to the lowest common denominator.

Hey Bro/s

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Well then that's on you isn't it.



Dunno, have they ever had a racially based immigration policy?

Regardless if your argument boils down to 'Well X Are Racist Too' then you are doing it wrong.



It's arguably more economically and protectionism grounded than anything else.

And again, is that really a benchmark you want to set.

The point I was sort of making (obviously not very well) was that Sovereign States, even today have, what many would identify as grossly racist policies.

Australia had one also, but it was repealed half a century ago.

Far anyone interested, here is the link required ... Fact check: Were Indigenous Australians classified under a flora and fauna act until the 1967 referendum? - ABC News

The claim

A regularly repeated claim in public debate is that Indigenous Australians were covered by a flora and fauna act, which did not classify them as human beings, and that this only changed when the constitution was amended following the 1967 referendum.



The verdict

Ms Clanton's claim is a myth.
Aboriginal people in Australia have never been covered by a flora and fauna act, either under federal or state law.
But despite several attempts by various people to set the record straight, the myth continues to circulate, perhaps because, as one academic told Fact Check, it "embodies elements of a deeper truth about discrimination".

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Utter bollocks, it's 145th: List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia

uhm... in the link above New Zealand is number 145 in the alphabetical listing of countries - not a listing by incarceration rates.


A $98m approach to tackle Māori incarceration May 10, 2019

Currently more than 50 percent of the prison population is Māori, but just 15 percent of the general population.

Meanwhile, Māori make up 62 percent of the high security prison population.

Highest to Lowest - Prison Population Rate | World Prison Brief

USA of course is number 1
Thailand makes number 4 - how about that, eh?

Top ten plus New Zealand at 75

the last number the is prison population rate: the number of prisoners per 100k of general population

1	United States of America	655
2	El Salvador	590
3	Turkmenistan	552
4	Thailand	541
5	Palau	522
6	Rwanda	511
7	Cuba	510
8	Maldives	499
9	Northern Mariana Islands (USA)	482
10	Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)	447
75	New Zealand	199

Originally Posted by David48atTD

As an aside, it's refreshing to have a discussion about diverse ideas, respecting others opinions without resorting to the lowest common denominator.

Hey Bro/s

Voices in the wilderness.

Justice system called 'fundamentally racist' - new study shows Māori more likely to go to court

Justice system called 'fundamentally racist' - new study shows Māori more likely to go to court | RNZ News

Originally Posted by English Noodles

^Not sure what happened there.

I'll try and find a link that works.

Paste it into tinyurl.com and then post that link.

For some reason this board software gets its tits in a wringer about ABC Australia.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Paste it into tinyurl.com and then post that link.

For some reason this board software gets its tits in a wringer about ABC Australia.

Thank you.

^^ is that a long-winded way of saying you want another British injection, we've still got loads of criminals but you'll be pleased to learn that they won't upset your diversity balance.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Culture is not static, it is always changing.

Culture in Australia for instance was not the same 20 years ago as it was 100 years ago , but it changed is a predictable, incremental and evolutionary manner where new fads emerged from new influences that arrived , the ones that worked with in the cultural context are adapted, and the ones that don't are rejected.

Now with the advent of easier travel, telecommunications, and mass dislocation of populations do to a new world order, the process has accelerated forcing changes outside the cultural evolutionary norm, and people are reacting.

Probably applicable to many Nations, many Cultures ...

Originally Posted by Troy

"Black Lives Matter" is rascist from the onset...

...it should be "All Lives Matter"

Just sayin'

I agree, next they are going to start repackaging 'white' people's faces on products.. maybe take all faces whatever color off products, maybe that will settle it.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Good question.

So, in an Australian context, define 'Racism' as an Aboriginal would experience it and who is being Racist?

AO, be mindfull that ...

So that's a no then?

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Ant, the Footy is on, so a read for a later time.

One quick point, the White Australia Policy you mention above, formulated in 1901, repealed in 1973 (I was in short pants then) is based on Immigration and naught to do with the Aboriginals.

WTF?

That's some serious mental gymnastics you've done there!

Are you seriously saying that the White Australian policy is not racist?

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Australia had one also, but it was repealed half a century ago.

And yet, funnily enough repealing one racist policy does not magically eliminate racism nor help the disenfranchised who had been previously affected over the last 200 years.