Thread: A new look to remove racial stereotyping

It really is worrying and remarkable the amount of full blown racists that post on this board.

Originally Posted by aging one

It really is worrying and remarkable the amount of full blown racists that post on this board.

...why worrying?...everyone knows what color you are...

Originally Posted by aging one

It really is worrying and remarkable the amount of full blown racists that post on this board.

Nope, its just there are quite a lot of non Americans who could not give a fook about your in country shite and get bored of having to listen to you putting the world to rights.

Originally Posted by aging one

It really is worrying and remarkable the amount of full blown racists that post on this board.

So what makes you think they are full blown racists?

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

get bored of having to listen to you putting the world to rights

Here's the thing about that though... you don't have to.

Nobody is forcing you. You choose to and then whinge about it. A lot.

Maybe you just really like whinging.

David you're wasting your time,the dick heads just presume everyone is racist as the media tells them what to think.

They/he even made a movie about/on him.

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The documentary uses the experiences of former AFL player Adam Goodes to examine racial politics in Australia and is one of the best-reviewed, most-publicised Australian films of 2019.



When the credits rolled on The Australian Dream after its premiere at the Melbourne International Film Festival, it was met with a 10-minute standing ovation.

Jump a few weeks ahead to when the film opens in Australia and it ranks 12th at the box office on opening weekend.

So, with all this publicity and hype and the "10-minute standing ovation" ... it flopped


What happened?

Box office earnings never define a film but it's still a loose measure of the public's interest in a topic, especially if it's a documentary.
A lot of variables factor into what people decide to see at the cinema, made trickier by the dominance of streaming services and the comfort of home, but many local filmgoers were not eager for The Australian Dream.


Me, as soon as I saw the protagonist was Adam Goodes ... Meh.

Probably we will all get called racists because we didn't pay our hard earned to watch the movie.

Nope, we didn't bother because it was Adam Goodes ... but the media will never get that.

Why have local audiences abandoned Adam Goodes and The Australian Dream? - ABC News


My comments in italics

Originally Posted by Chico

David you're wasting your time,the dick heads just presume everyone is racist as the media tells them what to think.

Nobody told me that you are a racist and least of all the media.

It's really quite self-evident.

This also is where it gets tricky with 'Racism' in Australia ... as in no bias based on Colour or Creed.

Who or what is an Aboriginal?

Meet Shirleen Campbell. She is a late 30's aboriginal woman.





Meet Angela Dos Santos (below), also a late 30's aboriginal woman who traces her Indigenous heritage back to Gumbaynggirr country. (Her Tribe/her Mob)





As thousands of Black Lives Matter protesters marched through the streets calling for justice and better treatment for Indigenous Australians, Angela Dos Santos was at home feeling "torn" and "frustrated".

So, back to the question ... Who or what is an Aboriginal?

Well, you'd assume that there would have to be a 'blood link' ... yes?

No ... you just have to identify as Aboriginal and be accepted by your 'Mob'

So, you can easily be a blue-eyed blond and be an Aboriginal.


Unless Angela Dos Santos told you she was 'Aboriginal' ... I, and many, would be none the wiser.

Fairly hard to discriminate against Angela Dos Santos based on Colour or Creed.


As mentioned a few posts above, what is regarded as Racism varies widely from Country to Country, Race to Race, Individual to Individual.

David do you think racism towards aboriginals exists in Australia? That is a simple question. Not do you, but do you think it exists?

Originally Posted by aging one

David do you think racism towards aboriginals exists in Australia? That is a simple question. Not do you, but do you think it exists?

Good question.

So, in an Australian context, define 'Racism' as an Aboriginal would experience it and who is being Racist?

AO, be mindfull that ...

In 2016 nearly half (49%) of all Australians were either born overseas or had at least one parent who was born overseas. More than a quarter (28%) of the Australian population were first generation Australians (born overseas).

Have you seen Terry post his views on the aboriginals? That is my answer. He gets applause and back up when he posts. But I am not getting into this boiling pot mate...

Originally Posted by David48atTD

So, in an Australian context, define 'Racism' as an Aboriginal would experience it and who is being Racist?

Here you go, start here: Banyan - Racism in Australia is not just a thing of the past | Asia | The Economist; It's black and white: racism in Australia is common and accepted | Marni Tuala for IndigenousX | Opinion | The Guardian

Work backwards until you get to the White Australia Policy, keep going until you find Aboriginals classed as 'flora and fauna', don't stop until you reach first settlement.

Vagina, dodging the issue again,tries to incriminate people,though doesn't provide any facts.

AO in answer to your question I would hazard a guess and estimate that at least 80% of Aussies see Aboriginals as a lesser race.

A musical interlude, stay tuned folks for ...

Originally Posted by Iceman123

AO in answer to your question I would hazard a guess and estimate that at least 80% of Aussies see Aboriginals as a lesser race.

...what's the matter with the other 20%?...

Originally Posted by Iceman123

AO in answer to your question I would hazard a guess and estimate that at least 80% of Aussies see Aboriginals as a lesser race.

It's a common refrain in the whole NZ v. Aust trans-Tasman banter thing to point out just how racist, blatantly or casually, Aussies are.

Which incidentally is not racist because Aussies may all be thick but it's a nationality not a race.

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Originally Posted by tomcat

.what's the matter with the other 20%?...

They are the new arrivals, give them time.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Here you go, start here: Banyan - Racism in Australia is not just a thing of the past | Asia | The Economist; It's black and white: racism in Australia is common and accepted | Marni Tuala for IndigenousX | Opinion | The Guardian

Work backwards until you get to the White Australia Policy, keep going until you find Aboriginals classed as 'flora and fauna', don't stop until you reach first settlement.

Ant, the Footy is on, so a read for a later time.

One quick point, the White Australia Policy you mention above, formulated in 1901, repealed in 1973 (I was in short pants then) is based on Immigration and naught to do with the Aboriginals.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

how racist, blatantly or casually, Aussies are.

Think you need to look at Kiwis first and how Maoris are viewed and treated in your own country.

34% of the jailed inmates in NZ jails are Maori,hmm something not right there.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

One quick point, the White Australia Policy you mention above, formulated in 1901, repealed in 1973 (I was in short pants then) is based on Immigration and naught to do with the Aboriginals.

Ok but that wasn't really the point.

It was still an overtly racist policy and -- as you note -- the fact it took until 1973 to be repealed is actually equal parts shocking and damning.

Originally Posted by Chico

Think you need to look at Kiwis first and how Maoris are viewed and treated in your own country.

34% of the jailed inmates in NZ jails are Maori,hmm something not right there.

Shocking as this bit of news will undoubtedly seem to you, but it's actually possible to consider multiple things simultaneously and focusing on one at any given time does not preclude the other.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

keep going until you find Aboriginals classed as 'flora and fauna',

I'm certainly no expert on the subject but this comment interested me. Are you sure that this was the case? It appears it may be false.

Fact check: Were Indigenous Australians classified under a flora and fauna act until the 1967 referendum? - ABC News