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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^ Not in the Loy Toy world mate!
    Well get out there and riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Peasant's Revolt 1381...now that was a decent, all white, riot.
    Now that revolt was close to home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    The reason white guys don't riot is it's a white mans world. Got nothing to riot about.
    I swear you are getting more and more stupid by the day.

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    Protesting and rioting changes nothing. Sure it makes news and for a short term it raises awareness to whatever it is they are on about but honestly it's a waste of time. Just like the news. A few weeks later it's all forgotten and we move on. This too will pass.

    As for the looters.....well they are just ghetto trash looking for an excuse. Typical crap.

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    "Black people got a lot of problems,
    But they don't mind throwing a brick.
    White people go to school,
    Where they teach you how to be thick."


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Protesting and rioting changes nothing. Sure it makes news and for a short term it raises awareness to whatever it is they are on about but honestly it's a waste of time. Just like the news. A few weeks later it's all forgotten and we move on. This too will pass.
    Women can vote. Blacks can vote. There aren't children working in coal mines. We have a 40 hour work week. We have a minimum wage. The Vietnam War ended.

    I could go on and on, but I think those instances are sufficient enough to prove you wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Women can vote. Blacks can vote. There aren't children working in coal mines. We have a 40 hour work week. We have a minimum wage. The Vietnam War ended.
    What an achievement...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    The Vietnam War ended
    The caning you were getting might have had more to do with that, but...point taken.

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    The 1919 riots in England were about white people being upset about cheap labour from India, SE Asia, and WI. Would not be surprised if something similar happened in the aftermath of the Covid virus. Lot of people will be out of work and pissed off if Johnny Foreigner has a job.

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    Saying that whites do not riot is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Obviously the OP has never picked up a history book. A real problem for dim uneducated Trump supporters. That said a large amount of the rioting and looting during this current unrest is being done by whites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Women can vote. Blacks can vote. There aren't children working in coal mines. We have a 40 hour work week. We have a minimum wage. The Vietnam War ended.

    I could go on and on, but I think those instances are sufficient enough to prove you wrong.
    Ok. Let me rephrase, riots and protests have had some impact but generally speaking they do zip. The Vietnam war didn't end because of protests btw.

    In general this recent uprising of a bunch of people will be likely ignored and we move on until the next " Big thing". As I have seen the only way to affect change by protesting is hurting a companies bottomline as in a workforce walking out like they do with airlines or medical businesses.

    But let's be honest here. This only made news because it was a White cop and a Black citizen. Had this been black cop on a black citizen or a white cop on a white citizen this would have just likely made the local news. The Media stirs this pot. Again had this been reported as police brutality as an officer subdued and killed another man with excessive force none of this would be big news. As long as the media continues to say Look what this White Cop did to that Black man this will never cease. When the world stops identifying people by color then and only then will racism start to diminish. What should really be happening is the world should be appalled at the excessive behavior of the police officer on that man.

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    But when so many black people experience racism on a daily basis then it's understandable that this, the most common of your possible colour combinations, strikes a chord, no?

    By the way, it's also doing so in the UK and around the world.

    Institutional racism has to be clamped down on.

    Your preference, that first racism diminishes and then cops stop killing black people is putting the cart before the horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    In general this recent uprising of a bunch of people will be likely ignored and we move on until the next " Big thing".
    If you ignore this, the next "Big thing" will be civil war.

    I have hope for you though, because, in the words of Winston Churchill, "America will always do the right thing, only after they've tried everything else."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    The caning you were getting might have had more to do with that, but...point taken.
    Umm...I'm Canadian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Saying that whites do not riot is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Obviously the OP has never picked up a history book. A real problem for dim uneducated Trump supporters. That said a large amount of the rioting and looting during this current unrest is being done by whites.
    *Some* of the riots are without a doubt being instigated by right wing groups. There are surprising amount of nutters out there, simple white supremacists (emphasis on the word 'simple'), the qanon morons, the mob that want another civil war etc.

    The authorities have a real job on their hands sorting the wheat out from the chaff.

    Twitter has shut down multiple accounts that it says were operated by a white supremacist group posing as liberal groups encouraging violence.

    Twitter said the white supremacist group Identity Evropa used one fake account, @Antifa_US, to call for violence in majority white suburbs, in the name of the Black Lives Matter movement. The account's removal was first reported by NBC News.

    "This account violated our
    platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. We took action after the account sent a Tweet inciting violence and broke the Twitter Rules" the company said.


    Twitter said it has also targeted other fake accounts run by Identity Evropa, but did not provide examples. The company said the accounts posted hateful tweets targeting race, religion and sexual orientation.

    Why dont whites riot?-fake-antifa-tweet-jpg

    Twitter says fake "Antifa" account was run by white supremacists - CBS News

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Your preference, that first racism diminishes and then cops stop killing black people is putting the cart before the horse.
    So lets use an example. Notice how they found the guy that killed that retired cop while looting. Notice how it didn't make big headlines? Why, because it was a black guy that killed the black retired police officer. This is the norm and how the media wants to send the message. What happened to Floyd was appalling and disturbing and I would feel the same no matter who was under the cops knee. The officer should be tried for 1st or 2nd degree murder but it shouldn't matter if he was black or white or Asian or Indian etc. On a personal note, I have always been bothered when somebody I am with says something like "Hey look at that black, asian, indian person over there". I always stop them and say, "why can't you just say, He look at that guy or woman over there" I taught both my daughters that way, if they see someone doing something that they want me to notice tell me that way.

    In the end it would take a paradigm shift for the world to behave differently. Is that going to happen? Being realistic with myself.....No. I will behave like I do and encourage others to do the same. I have a very diverse ethnic social circle. I do not see color or religion, I see friends and acquaintances.

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    You're a middle aged, reasonably affluent bloke living in a country thousands of miles from where he was born. You moved here because you could choose to, with one of the factors being a lack of hassle - including from authorities.

    That's not a relevant example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Stumbled on this video and i liked the guys perspective, easy goin and pretty well down to earth matter of fact, for those of us born before the 90's anyway.
    That's one of the problems with Americans. They don't look across the border.

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    Fair Point Cyrille. But I was born and raised in the the US for the majority of my life and have lived and seen it all from all points of view. Racism is a deeply systemic problem and not just Black or shall we say "African Americans and one that will not just be "Resolved" with a few laws after a bunch of protester's wearing shirts saying "Black Lives matter" . All Lives matter. They are taking this incident to springboard this. The looters do not care, its every person for themselves and they are just exploiting it.

    No matter what though, this will never be resolved in our life time, if ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    All Lives matter. They are taking this incident to springboard this. The looters do not care, its every person for themselves and they are just exploiting it.

    No matter what though, this will never be resolved in our life time, if ever.
    Fair enough. However, if people feel oppressed, they will loot whenever the situation allows.

    The situation has not changed over 250 years, it hasn't helped that the Hollywood has started increasingly with black actors and all-black movies.

    Even giving them also a black POTUS. And the heart-breakingly remembering MLK jr. will not help much either. Hence, without a larger turmoil the problem will not be noticed.

    The country has profited over 250 years enormously from the black population, so it has to face all the secondary problems. Similar problems are also in other colonial powers, even in Germany with their Gastarbeiters...

    Moreover, the problems are not only with the color population but also with any poor population, the Covid-19 has shown it all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    No matter what though, this will never be resolved in our life time, if ever.
    The Civil Rights Act, the Voting Act and the Fair Housing Act have all been signed in my lifetime.

    They were all improvements, and there is room for more.

    Especially re-establishing the Voting Act, which the Republicans continue to erode at every opportunity.

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    Not that only "Whites" were demonstrating but the use of police mounted on horses on London streets, Light brigade style, to trample the crowds misfired.

    Police Officer Who "Threw Herself From Her Horse" Has Collapsed Lung, Broken Collarbone, Shattered Ribs

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...on-London.html

    0:10 the police woman loses control of her horse which bolts and she hits a traffic light

    0:40 the now free running horse crashes into a civilian at full gallop

    Mounted police and free galloping horses charging at civilians are lethal weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Fair enough. However, if people feel oppressed, they will loot whenever the situation allows.

    The situation has not changed over 250 years, it hasn't helped that the Hollywood has started increasingly with black actors and all-black movies.

    Even giving them also a black POTUS. And the heart-breakingly remembering MLK jr. will not help much either. Hence, without a larger turmoil the problem will not be noticed.

    The country has profited over 250 years enormously from the black population, so it has to face all the secondary problems. Similar problems are also in other colonial powers, even in Germany with their Gastarbeiters...

    Moreover, the problems are not only with the color population but also with any poor population, the Covid-19 has shown it all...
    I’ll agree with everything you’ve said but “The situation has not changed over 250 years.” Things have changed drastically in my lifetime. When I was a child, all neighborhoods, schools, restaurants, etc. were segregated white and black. Now you would not be able to find any place where only one or the other race congregates...except some churches! I reckon Christians are the most racist people around here. Same kind of people who vote for (no names mentioned here.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Not that only "Whites" were demonstrating but the use of police mounted on horses on London streets, Light brigade style, to trample the crowds misfired.

    Police Officer Who "Threw Herself From Her Horse" Has Collapsed Lung, Broken Collarbone, Shattered Ribs

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/ne...on-London.html

    0:10 the police woman loses control of her horse which bolts and she hits a traffic light

    0:40 the now free running horse crashes into a civilian at full gallop

    Mounted police and free galloping horses charging at civilians are lethal weapons.

    Police Officer Who "Threw Herself From Her Horse" Has Collapsed Lung, Broken Collarbone, Shattered Ribs | Zero Hedge
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    Threw herself from her horse? Are you kidding me?



    Horse ran her into a traffic light and she's pretty lucky to have survived that...


    Horses are still pretty good at breaking up the crowds though...

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