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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    there are a lot of independent writings out there prepared to give you their version of the 'truth'
    Those are the ones the whackjobs go to first unfortunately.

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    “I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

    The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance”

    ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    The bottom line for me is that US media long ago lost its cred as "the fourth estate." It no longer works with the interests of we the people in mind.
    Don't think it ever did.? MSM bought and owned by billionaire conglomerates belonging to associations like Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commissions, Royal Institute for International Affairs, etc. Also politicians of all sides belonging to these same groups, meeting in secret to arrange world events and how they should be reported. All MSM stories 'sourced' from Reuters (owned by the same groups) or even quoted direct from "official sources" without even bothering to interject with a critique.
    So anything outside the official line becomes a "conspiracy theory".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Don't think it ever did.?
    Good point. I thought about that too after I had posted it.



    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    So anything outside the official line becomes a "conspiracy theory".
    The term CT is used quite liberally these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Don't think it ever did.? MSM bought and owned by billionaire conglomerates belonging to associations like Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commissions, Royal Institute for International Affairs, etc. Also politicians of all sides belonging to these same groups, meeting in secret to arrange world events and how they should be reported. All MSM stories 'sourced' from Reuters (owned by the same groups) or even quoted direct from "official sources" without even bothering to interject with a critique.
    So anything outside the official line becomes a "conspiracy theory".
    The job of news is not to critique things.

    If you believe that it goes a long way to explaining some of the rubbish you come out with.

    So anything outside the official line becomes a "conspiracy theory
    No, the crafted nonsense posted and read on the internet already *is* a conspiracy theory.

    Which puts the onus on the reader to verify the source of this bollocks and unravel the partial facts and lies commonly employed.

    Which whackjobs, of course, never do.

    meeting in secret to arrange world events
    If they are meeting in secret, how do you know about it?

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    Be ever so cautious about imbibing convention and officialdom.

    False wisdom and knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Which puts the onus on the reader to verify the source of this bollocks and unravel the partial facts and lies commonly employed.
    A good advice for the ones who do not own his own brain to see immediately whether it is a lie or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    A good advice for the ones who do not own his own brain to see immediately whether it is a lie or not...
    Well.....it's quite clear that many are vacant of the ability regarding independent, challenging and questioning thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    A good advice for the ones who do not own his own brain to see immediately whether it is a lie or not...
    Ahem...

    I’m not going to let it go. You’ve followed me around the forum for months with your off topic shite.

    From what county do you hail, Klondyke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Be ever so cautious about imbibing convention and officialdom.

    False wisdom and knowledge.
    Mockingbird Media-jeff-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Mockingbird Media-jeff-jpg
    Failed to think of anything even slightly amusing to say again I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Be ever so cautious about imbibing convention and officialdom.

    False wisdom and knowledge.
    I'm old enough to remember when questioning officialdom on the aforementioned Gulf of Tonkin subject was considered conspiracy theory. Then when it was acknowledged that the official story was a lie it became truth. How many other controversial subjects will end up the same way eventually?

    The USS Liberty incident, also in the 1960s, is becoming public knowledge that the official story was a lie. Unquestionably parroted by the mockingbird media at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Well.....it's quite clear that many are vacant of the ability regarding independent, challenging and questioning thought.
    Yes Jeff, but do you think you'll ever change?

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    Conspiracy Theorists: 'Don't believe the official story! You are sheeple!'
    Also Conspiracy Theorists: *Believe anything and anyone that fits their narrative no matter how obviously logically-flawed*

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    If they are meeting in secret, how do you know about it?
    The meetings are not a secret, but the topics and planned outcomes are. You know these groups exist, what do you think they do.? Play a few games of golf?

    The Bilderberg meeting is an annual conference established in 1954 to foster dialogue between Europe and North America. The group’s agenda, originally to prevent another world war, is now defined as bolstering a consensus around free market Western capitalism and its interests around the globe. Participants include political leaders, experts from industry, finance, academia, and the media, numbering between 120 and 150. Attendees are entitled to use information gained at meetings, but not attribute it to a named speaker. This is to encourage candid debate, while maintaining privacy
    Activities and goals

    The group's original goal of promoting Atlanticism, of strengthening U.S.–European relations and preventing another world war has grown; according to Andrew Kakabadse the Bilderberg Group's theme is to "bolster a consensus around free market Western capitalism and its interests around the globe".[1] In 2001, Denis Healey, a Bilderberg group founder and a steering committee member for 30 years, said, "To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."
    Partly because of its working methods to ensure strict privacy and secrecy,[31] the Bilderberg Group has been criticised for its lack of transparency and accountability.[32] The undisclosed nature of the proceedings has given rise to several conspiracy theories.[33][13][34] This outlook has been popular on both extremes of the political spectrum, even if they disagree about the exact nature of the group's intentions. Some on the left accuse the Bilderberg group of conspiring to impose capitalist domination,[35] while some on the right have accused the group of conspiring to impose a world government and planned economy.[36]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting

    Stated intention of secrecy and Globalism. These are the people that make the real decisions that our elected leaders announce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Ahem...
    I’m not going to let it go. You’ve followed me around the forum for months with your off topic shite.
    Et tu, Brute, do I follow also you in your nightmares? Or are you the 'arry?

    Originally Posted by harrybarracuda (Mockingbird Media)
    Which puts the onus on the reader to verify the source of this bollocks and unravel the partial facts and lies commonly employed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    A good advice for the ones who do not own his own brain to see immediately whether it is a lie or not...

    Wondering whether nowadays The Guardian is also classified as conspirator theorist when they had dared to publicise this? (as publicised by many others, but not MSM)

    That was the time before The Guardian publicised also the Wikileaks. Afterwards, when all the hard drives were properly smashed, The Guardian will no longer make such foolishness, hence, can be now classified as "recognized MSM"...


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    ^^

    Bilderbergers sound awesome. Doing more for the world than individual politicians are.
    Good on 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    the undisclosed nature of the proceedings has given rise to several conspiracy theories.
    Don't they fucking ever.




    Perhaps you should look at the agendas on their website, you fucking plank.

    Topics for discussion included:


    • "Can the U.S. and Europe grow faster and create jobs?"
    • "Jobs, entitlement and debt"
    • "How big data is changing almost everything"
    • "Nationalism and populism"
    • "U.S. foreign policy"
    • "Africa's challenges"
    • "Cyber warfare and the proliferation of asymmetric threats"
    • "Major trends in medical research"
    • "Online education: promise and impacts"
    • "Politics of the European Union"
    • "Developments in the Middle East"


    '10
    Sounds like thrilling, world domination, chips in the vaccine stuff eh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    The USS Liberty incident, also in the 1960s, is becoming public knowledge that the official story was a lie. Unquestionably parroted by the mockingbird media at the time.
    By all means fill us in on your top secret whackjob knowledge of what actually happened.

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    ^^Their website is a mine of info, eh?

    Are journalists allowed to attend – is there an accreditation procedure and how can I apply?

    The Meeting is closed to reporting journalists in order to encourage the highest level of openness and dialogue. As a result, there is no accreditation of journalists.

    Okay then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    ^^Their website is a mine of info, eh?



    Okay then.
    Congratulations, you've just discovered that there are organisations that hold private meetings.

    Genius!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Et tu, Brute, do I follow also you in your nightmares? Or are you the 'arry?
    Eh?

    Iranian. Iranian with the umph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Oh, my. You are really so mainstream.
    Americans' Trust in Mass Media Edges Down to 41%
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/267047/...dges-down.aspx
    41% ?
    Repubs 15 %
    Democs 69 %

    ???

    I do feel tempted to have a look at the questions asked, but will resist

    Democrats are gullible.
    What a fucking surprise

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    41% ?
    Repubs 15 %
    Democs 69 %

    ???

    I do feel tempted to have a look at the questions asked, but will resist

    Democrats are gullible.
    What a fucking surprise
    Alternatively, baldy orange cunto has republitards believing all of his lies over facts.

    Maybe they should ask who trusts Alex Jones, then you'll see who is gullible.

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