Thread: Don't Save Airlines Or Oil Giants

Plus of course, 'carbon footprint' is only part of the problem.

It isn't what leads to countless respiratory diseases.

armstrong's electric vehicle, if it were used widely across Bangkok, wouldn't be preferable to a diesel vehicle only because of its carbon footprint.

Originally Posted by OhOh

I'm sure the medics have:

1. Unions,
2. Racial discrimination/human rights laws,
3. Professional cabals

which can be utilised to deflect, to a convenient slop barrel, away such racist demands.

I suspect young, newly educated and expensively trained by UK taxpayers, are not required to "buy their way into the NHS with a premium".

But "Johnny Foreigner", presumably with the correct visa/permission to work ..., educated and trained by foreign taxpayers/self funded, bringing much needed capacity to the NHS, will be required too.

Is there not a pool of impoverished medics, from the newly admitted to the EU, to tap?

Oh dear, you're being a moron again.

You've obviously never applied for a job in a foreign country.

Well, tefler maybe.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why not, when people from the UK have been paying into it from the working age of 16 or thereabouts?

Why should Johnny Foreigner get a fucking subsidy exactly?

Except millions don't but are benefit dependent for the entirety of their lives whereas a foreign spouse of a sponsor, both of whom are working full time and in receipt of no benefits, must pay a premium for healthcare even though they are both paying full NI contributions????

It's a tax on foreigners to appease the racist, right wing nationalist scum.

But please don't give me that utter shite about paying into it from the age of 16 until they fucking drop dead. A Brit OAP with 40 years contributions moves abroad and returns for treatment has to pay, and not just the basic costs, they pay the cost plus 50% premium.

OAPs over 65 in receipt of a SPA with at least 10 years consecutive residence in the UK were entitled to free treatment in the UK upon any return, a right that existed for over 40 years until 2015 when that cvunt Hunt abolished it without any fucking notice.

Tory Britain is a dog turd.

Fuck 'em.

Get your head out of your arse Harry, you'll see better.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Except millions don't but are benefit dependent for the entirety of their lives whereas a foreign spouse of a sponsor, both of whom are working full time and in receipt of no benefits, must pay a premium for healthcare even though they are both paying full NI contributions????

It's a tax on foreigners to appease the racist, right wing nationalist scum.

But please don't give me that utter shite about paying into it from the age of 16 until they fucking drop dead. A Brit OAP with 40 years contributions moves abroad and returns for treatment has to pay, and not just the basic costs, they pay the cost plus 50% premium.

OAPs over 65 in receipt of a SPA with at least 10 years consecutive residence in the UK were entitled to free treatment in the UK upon any return, a right that existed for over 40 years until 2015 when that cvunt Hunt abolished iit without any fucking notice.

Tory Britain is a dog turd.

Fuck 'em.

Get your head out of your arse Harry, you'll see better.

I would move back to the UK permanently then.

You're always fucking whinging about how bad Thailand is after all.

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Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

OAPs over 65 in receipt of a SPA with at least 10 years consecutive residence in the UK were entitled to free treatment in the UK upon any return, a right that existed for over 40 years until 2015 when that cvunt Hunt abolished it without any fucking notice.

I do feel for you, a stuck up prick who is now on the bones of his arse.
Stop blaming the Govt and everyone else for the sad predicament you find yourself in.

The choices you made in life were yours and yours alone.

Enlighten me, who sold you on that plan that convinced you that you would be looked after ad infinitum by others? Knobhead!

Look on the bright side, you may catch Covid 19 and bring a timely end to your worthless existence.

Har har

Err, I rather think you are on the wrong forum, Dickman. The " I'm a fucking, bogan, gnarly, wart ridden, alcoholic frazzled, fat-arsed, beer-bellied Antipodean twat talking out of me blurter on a topic my walnut sized brain can't comprehend" thread is taking place elsewhere.

Covid-19 crisis will wipe out demand for fossil fuels, says IEA
Renewable electricity may be only source to withstand biggest shock in 70 years

Covid-19 crisis will wipe out demand for fossil fuels, says IEA | Business | The Guardian

Renewable electricity will be the only source resilient to the biggest global energy shock in 70 years triggered by the coronavirus pandemic, according to the world’s energy watchdog.


The International Energy Agency said the outbreak of Covid-19 would wipe out demand for fossil fuels by prompting a collapse in energy demand seven times greater than the slump caused by the global financial crisis.


In a report, the IEA said the most severe plunge in energy demand since the second world war would trigger multi-decade lows for the world’s consumption of oil, gas and coal while renewable energy continued to grow.


The steady rise of renewable energy combined with the collapse in demand for fossil fuels means clean electricity will play its largest ever role in the global energy system this year, and help erase a decade’s growth of global carbon emissions.

Fatih Birol, the IEA’s executive director, said: “The plunge in demand for nearly all major fuels is staggering, especially for coal, oil and gas. Only renewables are holding up during the previously unheard of slump in electricity use.”


Renewable energy is expected to grow by 5% this year, to make up almost 30% of the world’s shrinking demand for electricity. The growth of renewables despite a global crisis could spur fossil fuel companies towards their goals to generate more clean energy, according to Birol, but governments should also include clean energy at the heart of economic stimulus packages to ensure a green recovery.


“It is still too early to determine the longer-term impacts,” said Birol. “But the energy industry that emerges from this crisis will be significantly different from the one that came before.”

The impact of the coronavirus has triggered a crisis for fossil fuel commodities, including the collapse of oil market prices, which turned negative for the first time in the US earlier this month.


Global efforts to curb the spread of Covid-19 have led to severe restrictions on travel and the global economy that will cause the biggest drop in global oil demand in 25 years.


Demand for gas is expected to fall by 5%, after a decade of uninterrupted growth. It is the steepest drop since gas became widely used as an energy source in the second half of the previous century.


Coal demand is forecast to fall by 8% compared with 2019, its largest decline since the end of the second world war.


The Paris-based energy authority used data from every country and across each energy sector to analyse the impact of the pandemic on the global system.


It found that global energy demand was likely to plummet by 6% this year, the equivalent of losing the entire energy demand of India – the world’s third largest energy consumer – or the combined energy demand of France, Germany, Italy and the UK.


The impact of the pandemic on energy use will be more keenly felt in advanced economies where demand is expected to fall by 11% across the EU and 9% across the US.

The collapse of fossil fuel demand could lead global emissions to fall by 8% compared with 2019, a drop six times larger than the record fall after the financial crisis in 2009 to lows not seen in the past decade.


The 3bn tonne drop in carbon dioxide emissions surpasses data commissioned by the Guardian this month that predicted a fall or 2.5 bn tonnes this year, greater than the drop triggered by every financial crash since the second world war combined.

The Guadisan is now a fertile grazing pasture for just about every hare-brained pundit going and one wonders if the editor is perhaps self-isolating in some cave wearing a hairshirt and flagellating herself with the combined works of The Thunberg.

So far, according to the Gospel of the Guardian, COVID will bring the end of:- air travel, oil production, the internal combustion engine, office employment, holidays abroad, meat eating, pubs and restaurants, hotels and the High Street, Tupperware parties, group sex and cricket.

Becoming a bore now.

I know what you mean, but the thought of all numpty's investments flatlining at best is a heartening one.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

never applied for a job in a foreign country.

Very true, they all arrive at my "door" and ask me to help them. Difficult to turn down on occasion.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The Guadisan is now a fertile grazing pasture for just about every hare-brained pundit going and one wonders if the editor is perhaps self-isolating in some cave wearing a hairshirt and flagellating herself with the combined works of The Thunberg.

So far, according to the Gospel of the Guardian, COVID will bring the end of:- air travel, oil production, the internal combustion engine, office employment, holidays abroad, meat eating, pubs and restaurants, hotels and the High Street, Tupperware parties, group sex and cricket.

Originally Posted by cyrille

know what you mean, but the thought of all numpty's investments flatlining at best is a heartening one.

Ah Syb, its great that i am always there in your head. Regards my investments, it was chump change, not to sausages, less than 11k and i trousered over 70% return in 10 days. My risk is minimal. The rest of my investments are all OK you'll be pleased to know - i liquidated 85% of them back in Feb and its been a great buying opportunity.

How has managing your portfolio gone, do tell.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Covid-19 crisis will wipe out demand for fossil fuels, says IEA
Renewable electricity may be only source to withstand biggest shock in 70 years

Unlikely. Even if companies think renewables merit investigation, CAPEX has been cut to shit.

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There is no denying Cyrille's points raised. I think they will come to pass, however a paradigm shift very rarely happens. The path will be followed, but be winding. Good on little Greta for bringing this to the fore she will hopefully be remembered after the Teak doors have closed.

In the meantime we are all thinking no further than a cure for Covid 19 - it will pass but probably just a catalyst for alerting us to what the future holds, that is in our hands but the wake up call must be heeded.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Very true, they all arrive at my "door" and ask me to help them. Difficult to turn down on occasion.

I've heard of that HoHo.

It's called doing "Incalls".

Maybe Smooci offer it too.

The ever encompassing and controlling corporatism.
It's all that we know.
What we sense.
Mother's milk.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

i trousered over 70% return in 10 days

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

i liquidated 85% of them back in Feb

Originally Posted by Iceman123

we are all thinking no further than a cure for Covid 19

Originally Posted by Iceman123

what the future holds, that is in our hands

Bollocks.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Maybe Smooci offer it too.

They have tried, but ones standards and charges are unacceptable to their client base.