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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    So, Greece has ceased to exist . . . you really do amaze me
    Perhaps its better to post about something you know about,instead of holding on to coat flaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't know how countries like Italy and Greece ever got in, they are mostly black market economies who don't pay taxes and historically expect Europe to pick up the slack.
    Italy is a founding member of the EU, you clueless dross

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    ...just for fun, I had a closer look at OhOh's source:







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    • Overall, we rate the Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF) a Questionable source based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as a complete lack of transparency with the goal to deceive readers. This is not a credible source.



    Detailed Report

    Reasoning: Extreme Right, Conspiracy, Propaganda, Complete Lack of Transparency
    Country: Russia
    World Press Freedom Rank: Russia 149/180


    History

    Founded in 2010, the Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF) provides a platform for exclusive analysis, research and policy comment on Eurasian and global affairs.

    SCF completely lacks transparency by not listing owners or editors. Further, the domain is registered in Russia, which the owners do not openly disclose and there is not a contact page provided.


    Funded by / Ownership
    Ownership of the Strategic Culture Foundation is not disclosed. We cannot determine how revenue is derived as there does not appear to be a source of monetization (ads, donations, etc). However, the site features authors and has maintenance costs, so funding is coming from somewhere.

    Analysis / Bias


    In review, the Strategic Culture Foundation is a Russian propaganda website that favors the authoritarian right. This source also frequently reports pro-Russian conspiracy theories such as these:




    When not reporting conspiracy theories, SCF reports favorably on President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Other topics feature Homophobia and Antisemitism.


    Finally, in a Politico article the Strategic Culture Foundation was described as “a part of the Kremlin’s influence apparatus and noted that Russia has long sought to amplify the voices of Western conspiracy theorists.”


    Overall, we rate the Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF) a Questionable source based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as a complete lack of transparency with the goal to deceive readers. This is not a credible source.
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    ^ Have a look around for the American links,there's many,why not some Russian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Perhaps its better to post about something you know about,instead of holding on to coat flaps.
    So, Greece has ceased to exist according to you and this is your response? Thick as pigshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    extreme right wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as a complete lack of transparency with the goal to deceive readers.
    Perfect OhOh and chico reading material then . . . well, material for someone to read to chico

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    ...this thread is a good example of what Russian propagandists would like to see...I expect OhOh's dacha will be upgraded shortly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't know how countries like Italy and Greece ever got in, they are mostly black market economies who don't pay taxes and historically expect Europe to pick up the slack.
    Re paying tax: Perhaps they should follow the "model" market economies as practiced by Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft and similar...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...just for fun, I had a closer look at OhOh's source:
    Now lets have a look at the sources that assured us of Iraq WMD...and other lies in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    this thread is a good example of what


    Thank you for your thoughtful comments, on the writer's opinion piece. Most enlightening.

    Oh, you're unable to post one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Thick as pigshit
    Do please stay on topic,as you do seem to drift when confronted with the reality of Greece's plight since the country was sold off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Thank you for your thoughtful comments, on the writer's opinion piece. Most enlightening.

    Oh, you're unable to post one.
    ...have a closer read: you've overlooked my posts...does a car come with the dacha?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Do please stay on topic,as you do seem to drift when confronted with the reality of Greece's plight since the country was sold off.
    Ok, show me relevant and comparative data that shows how detrimental the bailout was to Greece's economy and GDP if you want to seriously discuss this . . . and define and back up what you mean by saying Greece has been "sold off".

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Ok, show me relevant and comparative data
    ...*cough*...you may be over-taxing his research skills...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Ok, show me relevant and comparative data that shows how detrimental the bailout was to Greece's economy and GDP if you want to seriously discuss this . . . and define and back up what you mean by saying Greece has been "sold off".
    I would of thought you had all the relevant data you would need, after telling us the EU propped up Greece.I'm sure you're the man who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Ok, show me relevant and comparative data that shows how detrimental the bailout was to Greece's economy and GDP if you want to seriously discuss this . . . and define and back up what you mean by saying Greece has been "sold off".
    This should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...just for fun, I had a closer look at OhOh's source:



    That's at the top end, believe me.


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    Italy will not leave the EU, she is in the same position as Macbeth.

    I am in blood stepped in so far that should I wade no more, returning were as tedious as go o'er,”

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Overall, we rate the Strategic Culture Foundation (SCF) a Questionable source based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of Russian propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as a complete lack of transparency with the goal to deceive readers. This is not a credible source.
    Of course no credible western media outlet would ever allow itself to promote state propaganda.

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    Journalism schools should teach a course focused on questions like these, given that over the past sixty years the Times and every other mainstream news organization has repeatedly flunked such tests, in each instance aiding the government’s efforts in its illegal interventions and wars.
    The samples below dating back to 1954, although they scratch the surface, show this to be the case. The fact is that the Times coverage of events in Ukraine in recent months fits the long-standing record of the Times subservience to government officials when the United States engages in policies that violate international law, democratic principles, and human rights abroad, even while those same government officials are targeting the American citizenry itself with interventionist propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Of course no credible western media outlet would ever allow itself to promote state propaganda.
    ...Nobody's saying that: the thread topic is OhOh's naivete, thinking a paid propagandist will bite the hand that feeds him...

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    ^Seems implied though...

    Others have covered the subject besides Strategic Culture. Whose coverage of it can be considered completely unbiased? Every source has an agenda in today's world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    ^Seems implied though...

    Others have covered the subject besides Strategic Culture. Whose coverage of it can be considered completely unbiased? Every source has an agenda in today's world.
    You need to learn the meaning of the phrase "varying degrees".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Perhaps its better to post about something you know about,instead of holding on to coat flaps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Do please stay on topic,as you do seem to drift when confronted with the reality of Greece's plight since the country was sold off.
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Ok, show me relevant and comparative data that shows how detrimental the bailout was to Greece's economy and GDP if you want to seriously discuss this . . . and define and back up what you mean by saying Greece has been "sold off".
    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    I would of thought you had all the relevant data you would need, after telling us the EU propped up Greece.I'm sure you're the man who knows.
    So, you're not capable of discussing anything that stretches your little brain.
    You made the statement.
    I questioned it.
    It is up to you to back up your statement.

    That's how a discussion works

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    This should be interesting.
    Interesting? Just another attempt by our forum brainfart to show he is somehow relevant in serious discussions. And he fails, no surprise.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...*cough*...you may be over-taxing his research skills...
    I'm sure I overtaxed his general skills by using words with more than one syllable

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    So, you're not capable of discussing anything
    Wasn't me who made a pathetic statement about the EU Propping up Greece,so it seems you can't even back up your own statement,so really what use would it be answering you.

    Seriously before Posting at least try reading whats happened about Greece and not make off the wall statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    I would of thought you had all the relevant data you would need, after telling us the EU propped up Greece.I'm sure you're the man who knows.
    Take comfort Chico, you lost the argument, however you did get “you’re” correct in this post.

    (I won’t tell anyone your third word should read “have” )

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