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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    So some journalists got held to account for an error / lie and lost their jobs over it, meanwhile Trump lies on the daily that affects millions and people bend over backwards to make excuses for him and turd polish and there is no accountability...

    Sorry, what was your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    So some journalists got held to account for an error / lie and lost their jobs over it, meanwhile Trump lies on the daily that affects millions and people bend over backwards to make excuses for him and turd polish and there is no accountability...

    Sorry, what was your point?
    * And it later turned out that they were pretty well correct.

    A truth is still a truth even when the evidence is well hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Just remembered a good one, coumo on cnn said its illegal to "possess" the wikileaks documents but its ok for "us" so you can here from a trusted source (not a flat out lie, if you "possess" the actual stolen documents is a crime) its not a crime to view them thou, he eludes from the truth shall we say.
    I think the point he was making is that the government are unlikely to go after a news organisation for reporting news using illegal or illegally obtained documents, who have institutional protections that don't apply to the individual; they probably wouldn't have the resources to take a First Amendment case all the way to through the court system.

    This was amply demonstrated when Nixon tried to get the journalists responsible for publishing the Pentagon Papers charged with espionage, and to get an injuction to stop them publishing, but lost his case in the Supreme Court.

    (New York Times Co. v. United States - Wikipedia)

    For his disclosure of the Pentagon Papers, Ellsberg was initially charged with conspiracy, espionage, and theft of government property, but the charges were later dismissed after prosecutors investigating the Watergate scandal discovered that the staff members in the Nixon White House had ordered the so-called White House Plumbers to engage in unlawful efforts to discredit Ellsberg.
    Pentagon Papers - Wikipedia


    So he wasn't lying when he said "It's OK for us" because generally if the material being published is in the public interest, an organisation with financial clout can afford the legal means to successfully defend itself.
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    Phhhark me, this Deeks bloke has taken some meth or somethign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Phhhark me, this Deeks bloke has taken some meth or something.
    Yes, well here's some news (hopefully not faked,) to cheer him up.

    Joe Biden officially clinches Democratic presidential nomination
    Former vice-president crosses delegate threshold in latest round of primaries as he campaigns largely from home


    Joe Biden has officially captured the Democratic presidential nomination, crossing the delegate threshold to represent the party in a general election contest against Donald Trump.


    The Associated Press called the nomination for the former vice-president on Friday night.


    “It was an honor to compete alongside one of the most talented groups of candidates the Democratic party has ever fielded,” Biden said in a statement, “and I am proud to say that we are going into this general election a united party.”


    Though Biden has been the presumptive nominee for months, his primary victories in states across the country on Tuesday helped him secure the 1,991 unpledged delegates necessary to win the nomination. His rival, Bernie Sanders, who exited the race in April, is still collecting delegates in an effort to influence the party’s platform at its August convention.


    The milestone comes as the nation faces compounding crises wrought by the coronavirus pandemic, soaring unemployment and a wave of protests over racism and police brutality. Biden enters the November 2020 general election in a strong position, with polling showing him ahead in a number of key battleground states.


    Biden and Trump have set out opposing visions amid the upheaval over police brutality, with Biden opting for a somber and unifying tone.


    “This is a difficult time in America’s history. And Donald Trump’s angry, divisive politics is no answer,” he said in a statement on Friday night. “The country is crying out for leadership. Leadership that can unite us. Leadership that can bring us together … We need a president who cares about helping us heal – now.”


    Constrained by the dangers of the virus, the former vice-president has been forced lately to campaign mostly from his home in Wilmington, Delaware, after dashing around the country to rallies and fundraisers, as is traditional, before the pandemic hit the US.


    But he recently began to leave his home, traveling on Tuesday to Philadelphia, where he delivered a searing speech on race in America, assailing Trump’s leadership and accusing his opponent of inflaming rather than calming a nation convulsed by protests and unrest.


    Biden was labeled the comeback kid after his campaign was nosediving in early 2020, with Sanders surging ahead and challengers such as Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg pressing hard in debates, but Biden suddenly revived.


    After he suffered in key early nominating votes in Iowa and New Hampshire, leading African American political influencers swung behind Barack Obama’s two-term vice-president in the run-up to the South Carolina primary and the Super Tuesday series of primaries and Biden scored unexpectedly resounding victories.


    He ended up sweeping the south and surfed the momentum – or “Joementum”, as his campaign called it – to the nomination at age 77.
    Joe Biden officially clinches Democratic presidential nomination | US news | The Guardian

    Oh, and in keeping wit the theme of the OP here's a video. (hopefully not faked)

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    Biden could gaffe his way through another lifetime, and he sill wouldn’t come close to Bumbling Bunker Boy.


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    Deeks, you are Australian, aren't you? Why are you so interested in Trump v Biden?

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    And seriously, do you really want get into a who fumbles the most words competition with TRUMP??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Deeks, you are Australian, aren't you? Why are you so interested in Trump v Biden?
    Because Trump is a hero for right wing bigots worldwide.

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    What staggers me is why Mercans aren't apologising to the world for inflicting this bloke on us, trouble is there nothing better following in the gene pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Deeks, you are Australian, aren't you? Why are you so interested in Trump v Biden?
    Because the USA is the last country on the planet that guarantees the right to free speech and the 2nd AMD to protect that right, If it wasnt for the USA i would probably be speaking Japanese and most of Europe and north Africa would be speaking German(Duetch), Trump is fighting to get the country back from globalists that want to use Americas wealth to subsidies their socialist policies of open borders. They have drained America for 30 years, ie. China and theWTO. NATO, Peacekeeping bullshit, Short story is the guy is fighting back and OH how they dont like it, just see it, Russia,Mueller,Ukrain,Impeach they said,Covid(Whuhan virus),now its Floyd. Any of you see Rod Rosenstien yesterday, mmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hallelujah View Post
    Because Trump is a hero for right wing bigots worldwide.
    Please describe "right wing bigots" are people that oppose Trump "Leftist commie scum"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    So some journalists got held to account for an error / lie and lost their jobs over it, meanwhile Trump lies on the daily that affects millions and people bend over backwards to make excuses for him and turd polish and there is no accountability...

    Sorry, what was your point?
    Ant, the media is lying, shaping stories, missleading, fabricating , and doing it on Twitter too, you wont see it if you just get your news from them, Since ive been in Thailand i dont see the news from MSM i get it from citizen journalists, ex journos, and youtube, They lay out the headline news and go into the sources and facts, they research it and on occasions they are wrong they correct it fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I think the point he was making is that the government are unlikely to go after a news organisation for reporting news using illegal or illegally obtained documents, who have institutional protections that don't apply to the individual; they probably wouldn't have the resources to take a First Amendment case all the way to through the court system.

    This was amply demonstrated when Nixon tried to get the journalists responsible for publishing the Pentagon Papers charged with espionage, and to get an injuction to stop them publishing, but lost his case in the Supreme Court.

    (New York Times Co. v. United States - Wikipedia)

    Pentagon Papers - Wikipedia


    So he wasn't lying when he said "It's OK for us" because generally if the material being published is in the public interest, an organisation with financial clout can afford the legal means to successfully defend itself.
    The average guy on the street is going to think what?

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    Damn.

    Can someone else finish him off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Please describe "right wing bigots"
    You've already done it with this load of nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Because the USA is the last country on the planet that guarantees the right to free speech and the 2nd AMD to protect that right, If it wasnt for the USA i would probably be speaking Japanese and most of Europe and north Africa would be speaking German(Duetch), Trump is fighting to get the country back from globalists that want to use Americas wealth to subsidies their socialist policies of open borders. They have drained America for 30 years, ie. China and theWTO. NATO, Peacekeeping bullshit, Short story is the guy is fighting back and OH how they dont like it, just see it, Russia,Mueller,Ukrain,Impeach they said,Covid(Whuhan virus),now its Floyd. Any of you see Rod Rosenstien yesterday, mmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Damn.

    Can someone else finish him off?
    Pattaya bars open yet?

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