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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The US can be a net exporter any time it likes. It's simply a question of economics. If it's cheaper to buy it abroad than drill for it, leave it there.
    Is it economics when ameristani producers pay buyers to take it away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Is it economics when ameristani producers pay buyers to take it away?
    You're an idiot and you can't read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Can't see that makes the slightest difference because it won't. Problem for the future world is that China appears well positioned to shift power from west to east, with several huge advantages every one of which has to do with being unfettered by trivia like civilised rules and expectations.

    A does Queensberry, B doesn't, you might not like it but where's your money go?
    China is highly reliant on global trade to prosper. Will that continue indefinitely? Maybe, but they cannot feed 1.5 billion people otherwise. They are more vulnerable than you may think.

    Should the US see a reversal in fortune, they are better suited to survive simply because they have less population to resources disparity than China.

    I reluctantly predict a global ecological crisis within the next few decades, and I don't see China maintaining it's current standard of living or military might when the dominoes begin to fall. Will China continue to bully its neighbors then? Will they have the luxury to do so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Those fuckers lied and tried to conceal their fucking plague and now thousands of civilised human beings are suffering because of it.
    And Trump didn't?

    Boris said it was just like flu, didn't he?

    How are both of those countries going now?



    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    USA is not self-sufficient in food, as it requires foreign sourced oil to power it's mechanised equipment.
    nutter. Food, eejit, food, not oil. besides being inaccurate anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    nutter. Food, eejit, food, not oil. besides being inaccurate anyway.
    Thank you for your inaccurate opinion of, my mental health and your inaccurate opinion, that oil is not a necessity, for the ameristani food industry.

    The ameristani commercial food industry is reliant on a few necessities:

    1. Oil -

    a. farmers (transport, machinery, home use),
    b. seed production (chemicals, transport, machinery, workers home use),
    c. planting (chemicals, transport, machinery, workers home use),
    d. pesticides (chemicals, transport, machinery, workers home use),
    e. harvesting (transport, machinery, workers home use) ,
    f. processors (transport, machinery, workers home use),
    g. distributors (transport, machinery, workers home use),
    i. storage (transport, machinery, workers home use)
    j. Retail Outlets (transport, machinery, workers home use)
    k ....

    2. Imported foreign labour in all the areas in 1.

    3. Feed stock to refine and produce plastics for packaging ....

    I've not quoted sources as I suspect most would agree 1, 2 and 3 are obvious "facts".

    As shown elsewhere ameristan choose to import some of its oil and it's labour. Choices maybe based on price or refinery defined/required oil type/grade.

    ameristan also has it's Strategic Reserves which may or may not have the required oil type/grades.

    "• What type of crude oil is stored in the Reserve?

    During the years that the Strategic Petroleum Reserve has existed, crude oil has been acquired from 25 countries. The oil is categorized as either "sweet" (with a sulfur content not exceeding 0.5 percent by weight) or "sour" (with a sulfur content greater than 0.5 percent but less than 2.0 percent). The SPR accepts only crude oil that meets its quality specifications and it is co-mingled in caverns designated as either sweet or sour."

    "• What is the ratio of sweet and sour crudes in the SPR? How was the ratio determined?

    As of September 1, 2018, Crude oil stored in the SPR is about 38.6 percent sweet and 61.4 percent sour. The ratio was established to meet the needs of the U.S. refining industry most likely to take SPR crude in the event of a drawdown, particularly those in the Gulf Coast area. Sweet crude oil can be processed by nearly all refiners; the same is not true for sour crude."

    Strategic Petroleum Reserve | Department of Energy

    You may have knowledge regarding the points in this post. If you do, reply to my opinions, with your own.

    Expressing your opinion of a fellow poster in a "news" thread is specifically prohibited. However, similar to Thai immigration Officers the option of doing a "Nelson", our admin on TD, have an executive authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You may have knowledge regarding the points in this post.
    Everyone does . . . more so than you.

    The policy has been adopted for 1990-1995 period. When the new government came to powerafter independence in 1980, there was need to reduce Zimbabwe's deep socioeconomicdisparities. Hence the government invested heavily in health and education. Such action led to anincrease in public expenditures, which for most of the 1980s made up 45 percent of theGDP.4Social indicators improved, particularly in health and education, but per capita incomestagnated because large government spending crowded out private investment and fueled42012 Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aThe World Bank Group, Independent Evaluation Group (IEG). 7 | P a g einflation, while shortages of imported goods constrained investment and growth. Populationgrew faster than job creation, widening the disparities in income levels. In 1991, the governmentproposed a policy agenda that formed the basis for the Economic and Structural AdjustmentProgram.5The ESAP sought to transform Zimbabwe's tightly controlled Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aeconomic system to a more open,market-driven economy. The restructuring sought to promote higher growth and to reducepoverty and unemployment by (1) reducing fiscal and parastatal deficits and instituting prudentmonetary policy; (2) liberalizing trade policies and the foreign exchange system; (3) carrying outdomestic deregulation; and (4) establishing social safety net and training programs for vulnerablegroups. Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aThe focus was on the formal sector as the engine of growth.Although there were some changes in the economy, the objectives of ESAP were not met. Theunderlying factors being the drought in 1992 which diverted funds to food shortages, too manyreforms were done on a short period of time, corruption by officials, policy uncertainty and lackof policy support by business community, payment made to war veterans and continued loss Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-abyparastatals.3.0.2 Zimbabwe Programme for Economic and Social Transformation (ZIMPREST)ESAP was succeeded by the reform programme, popularly known as Zimbabwe Programme forEconomic and Social Transformation (ZIMPREST) whose main objective was the creation of astable macro-economic environment which allows increased savings and investment in order toachieve higher growth and improvement in the standard of living for all Zimbabwe. The policy5 The World Bank supported the ESAP with a $125 million structural adjustment loan (SAL) and a $50 millionstructural adjustment credit (SAC), both Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aapproved in 1992 and closed in 1993. 8 | P a g ewas scheduled for the period 1996-2000. The main aim of ZIMPREST was to correct themistakes of ESAP, which it later failed to do.During the first three years of the ZIMPREST, the highest growth was achieved at 7% in 1997,while lower growth rates were achieved at 2 % in 1997 and an estimated 1.6% in 1998, andequally low levels in 1999 and 2000. The major factors behind the weak performance during thelast two years were• a sharp depreciation of the Zimbabwe dollar in 1998, which was mainly due to low pricesof Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aZimbabwe’s major minerals on the international market as well as low internationalprices of tobacco which reduced foreign exchange earnings;• the slowdown in global economic Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aperformance in 1998 which reduced demand forexports.• a sporadic rainfall pattern during the 1997/98 season which reduced agricultural output;and• an unstable macro-economic environment, characterized by high inflation rates, highinterest rates and a weak currency which negatively affected performance in most sectorsof the economy Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aparticularly the manufacturing sector.However, one outstanding achievement during the first 3 years of ZIMPREST was the markedimprovement in Zimbabwe’s fiscal performance. Zimbabwe managed to reduce its budget deficitas percentage of GDP from 12.9% in fiscal year 1994/95, to 9.7% in 1995/96, 6.7% in 1996/997and 6.4% in 1997/8. This improvement in fiscal performance was due to improved revenuecollection and enhancedChinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-aexpenditure management which was the major focus of the ZIMPREST.The strong fiscal position laid the groundwork for a stable macro-economic environment whichwas achievable once the balance of payments position improved
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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Everyone does . . . more so than you.
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You may have knowledge regarding the points in this post.#56 If you do, reply to my opinions, with your own.
    So no opinion on post #56

    Not sure what Zimbabwe has to do with China's maritime actions or ameristani oil dependencies.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    This constant obfuscation, deflection and tangental manoeuvrings simply show you to be weak
    However My opinion of your post #57 :

    1. Crap presentation and off thread topic.

    2. They appear to be on a decent route now:

    Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-z-gdp-jpg


    Zimbabwe GDP per capita | 1960-2018 Data | 2019-2020 Forecast | Historical | Chart


    Zimbabwe Exports By Country Value Year
    South Africa $2.08B 2018
    United Arab Emirates $732.28M 2018
    Mozambique $392.16M 2018
    Zambia $66.58M 2018
    Belgium $42.17M 2018
    China $36.05M 2018
    Botswana $31.03M 2018
    Kenya $22.04M 2018
    Namibia $7.66M 2018
    Malawi $6.34M 2018
    Netherlands $5.67M 2018
    Italy $3.70M 2018
    Germany $3.45M 2018
    United Kingdom $3.05M 2018
    United States $2.30M 2018
    Congo $1.42M 2018
    Hong Kong $1.34M 2018
    Vietnam $681.84K 2018
    Russia $597.14K 2018
    Indonesia $563.78K 2018
    Japan $524.87K 2018
    Sudan $517.59K 2018
    Mali $510.51K 2018
    Ethiopia $433.34K 2018
    Spain $344.50K 2018

    https://tradingeconomics.com/zimbabwe/exports-by-country

    Zimbabwe Imports By Country Value Year
    South Africa $2.46B 2018
    Singapore $1.36B 2018
    China $357.61M 2018
    United Kingdom $226.22M 2018
    Japan $215.72M 2018
    Mauritius $182.39M 2018
    Zambia $177.77M 2018
    India $166.77M 2018
    Mozambique $125.35M 2018
    United Arab Emirates $123.90M 2018
    Thailand $70.45M 2018
    Hong Kong $58.90M 2018
    Botswana $49.52M 2018
    United States $49.38M 2018
    Denmark $46.34M 2018
    Russia $40.51M 2018
    Malawi $33.35M 2018
    Germany $31.97M 2018
    Swaziland $30.82M 2018
    Netherlands $30.35M 2018
    France $28.97M 2018
    Switzerland $24.73M 2018
    Canada $23.06M 2018
    Egypt $21.95M 2018
    Lithuania $21.18M 2018

    https://tradingeconomics.com/zimbabwe/imports-by-country

    DFI appears to similar to it's Southern African peers at USD 27m.

    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/ind....WD/map/africa

    Could they do better, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    2. They appear to be on a decent route now:
    e the main-lands and islands of lagoons, whereas A. grandis inhabits intertidal mud flats along the edges of the same mangrove swamps. All harvested cockles are sexually mature. Gametogenesis of the three species occurs year round, and juvenile cockles grow rap-idly. Cockle densities at sizes at least 16–42 mm long ranged from 7 to 24/m2 in Mexico. Macrofaunal associates of cockles include crustaceans, gastropods, and finfishes. The mangrovChinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-images-1-jpege swamps are in nearly pristine condition in every country except Honduras, Ecuador, and Peru, where shrimp farms constructed in the 1980’s and 1990’s have destroyed some mangrove zones. In addition, Hurricane Mitch destroyed some Honduran mangrove swamps in 1998. About 15,000 fishermen, including men, women, and children, harvest the cockles. Ecuador has the largest tabulated number of fishermen, 5,055, while Peru has the fewest, 75. Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-images-jpegColombia has a large number, perhaps exceeding that in Ecuador, but a detailed census of them has never been made. The fishermen are poor and live a meager existence; they do not earn sufficient money to purchase adequate food to allow their full health and growth potential. They travel almost daily from their villages to the harvesting areas in wooden canoes and fiberglass boats at low tide when they can Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-download-pngwalk into the mangrove swamps to harvest cockles for about 4 h. Harvest rates, which vary among countries owing to differences in cockle abundances, range from about 50 cockles/fisherman/day in El Salvador and Honduras to 500–1,000/ fisherman/day in Mexico. The fishermen return to their villages and sell the cockles to dealers, who sell them mainly whole to market outlets within their countries, but there is some exporting to adjacent countries. An important food in most countries, the cockles are eaten in seviche, raw on the half-shell, and cooked with rice. The cockles are under heavy Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-locations-mussel-cockle-beds-pacific-oysterharvesting pressure, except in Mexico, but stocks are not yet being depleted because they are harvested at sizes which have already spawned. Also some spawning stocks lie within dense mangrove stands which the fishermen cannot reach. Consumers fortunately desire the largest cockles, spurning the smallest. Cockles are important to the people, and efforts to reduce the harvests to prevent overfishing would lead to severe economic suffering Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-ain the fishing communities. Pro-grams to conserve and improve cockle habitats may be the most judicious actions to take. Preserving the mangrove swamps intact, increasing their Chinese Maritime Militia on the Move in Disputed Spratly Islands-screen-shot-2020-04-02-16-asizes where possible, and controlling cockle predators would lead to an increase in cockle abundance and harvests. Fishes that prey on juvenile cockles might be seined along the edges of swamps before the tide rises and they swim into the swamps to feed. Transplanting mangrove seedlings to suitable areas might increase the size of those.
    Aldous Huxley Books - Biography and List of Works - Author of 'Brave New World'

    The Fisheries for Mangrove Cockles,Anadaraspp., from Mexico to Peru, With Descriptions of Their Habitats and Biology, the Fishermen’s Lives, and the Effects of Shrimp Farming - Aquatic Commons

    So, this proves that China's backward military is building nice houses i Shanghai

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Thank you for your inaccurate opinion of, my mental health and your inaccurate opinion, that oil is not a necessity, for the ameristani food industry.
    You're an idiot and you can't read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    mangrove swamps
    Interesting. I wonder how many of the worlds mangrove swamps have been wiped out by chinky plundering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Interesting. I wonder how many of the worlds mangrove swamps have been wiped out by chinky plundering?
    I'll need some time to research that so OhOh and Klondyke can then respond by talking about the disparity between the rodent population in NYC and Novosibirsk where rats wear Trotsky badges

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Thank you for your post.

    A source is required in news threads, I have been told.

    Who suggested otherwise? Or are you trying to change the subject.
    List of countries by oil production.
    List of countries by oil production - Wikipedia


    “Today, the United States remains the world's largest producer. Come April, Saudi Arabia will likely take the number two slot with Russia dropping down a notch, with limited capacity to expand. “

    Oil prices: What Saudi Arabia stands to gain from a price war - CNN

    US Exports of Crude Oil
    U.S. Exports of Crude Oil (Thousand Barrels per Day)


    Much more believable than your shite from “Tyler Durden” at Zero Hedge. Who the hell is Tyler Durden, anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    List of countries by oil production.
    OhDoh and his wife Klondike just got smashed. STFU you retards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    you can't read.
    Pray tell me what it is I cannot read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    List of countries by oil production.
    Thank you for your links, although not about our previous discussion. Many may read them and applaud your ability to obscure your previous claims.

    Have I disputed ameristan has a domestic oil and gas extraction and refining industry?

    My statemented was questioning whether it had, has, will have historically, now and in the future , a Self Sufficient oil industry.

    I also provided linked, ameristani government agency "facts", to strengthen my opinion.

    Which you again have failed to provide.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I'll need some time to research
    Research and post what you wish. Possibly a course on presenting relevant info in a legible manner may help the "retards" to assimilate more readily.

    I fear your last two posts here are only accessible to our forum drunks. But that may well be your target audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    My statemented was questioning whether it had, has, will have historically, now and in the future , a Self Sufficient oil industry.
    WTF is a self sufficient oil industry? If you are thinking the US can’t directly use what it produces, you would be wrong.

    11 World’s Largest Oil Refineries by Processing Capacity

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    WTF is a self sufficient oil industry?
    A self sufficient oil industry is an industry which can supply all that is required within it's physical borders. Basic commodities - crude oil, service equipment - drilling rigs, pumps, pipes, control systems ... service companies - workers, accommodation, canteens, bars, brothels ..., educated workers - finance, management, technical ..., financial services, transportation vehicles, .... I suggest ameristan has, in the oil industry, great world class expertise, except in one basic area - an indigenous crude supply that meets it's own SPR mandated spec..

    ameristan does not have the amounts and types of some crude oil it requires and as such it imports them from foreign countrify. In addition some of it's refineries have been designed, built and operated for decades to only refine crude oils from specific countries. As noted in previous posts in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    the US canÂ’t directly use what it produces, you would be wrong.
    You may wish to read my previous post and note what the ameristani government energy agency state, regarding crude oil types/supplier countries which many ameristani refiners on the Gulf of Mexico coast are able to refine.

    Here is my post

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    During the years that the Strategic Petroleum Reserve has existed, crude oil has been acquired from 25 countries. The oil is categorized as either "sweet" (with a sulfur content not exceeding 0.5 percent by weight) or "sour" (with a sulfur content greater than 0.5 percent but less than 2.0 percent). The SPR accepts only crude oil that meets its quality specifications
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The ratio was established to meet the needs of the U.S. refining industry most likely to take SPR crude in the event of a drawdown, particularly those in the Gulf Coast area. Sweet crude oil can be processed by nearly all refiners; the same is not true for sour crude."
    As 'arry has suggested it's probably purely a crude price input.

    However some oil refinery's have been built to handle a crude from a limited number of countries. Refineries take a while to build, are expensive run, are designed to optimise output from a particular crude and are owned by powerful groups who reward their selected politicians with re-election funding/bribes. It's capitalist democracy

    WTF do you think ameristan wants their puppy dog running Venezuela?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    A self sufficient oil industry is an industry which can supply all that is required within it's physical borders. Basic commodities - crude oil, service equipment - drilling rigs, pumps, pipes, control systems ... service companies - workers, accommodation, canteens, bars, brothels ..., educated workers - finance, management, technical ..., financial services, transportation vehicles, .... I suggest ameristan has, in the oil industry, great world class expertise, except in one basic area - an indigenous crude supply that meets it's own SPR mandated spec..

    ameristan does not have the amounts and types of some crude oil it requires and as such it imports them from foreign countrify. In addition some of it's refineries have been designed, built and operated for decades to only refine crude oils from specific countries. As noted in previous posts in this thread.
    Oh shut up you witless fucker.

    The seppos have all the oil they need if they want it.

    And when I say you can't read it's because no amount of repetition gets facts into your thick, deluded skull.

    One more time:

    The US can be a net exporter any time it likes. It's simply a question of economics. If it's cheaper to buy it abroad than drill for it, leave it there.
    You read some irrelevant Bloomberg article about a niche producer with no distribution network ending up losing money, well guess what fuckwit lots of them are doing it at $20-something dollars a barrel because it costs too much to get it to market. That's Saudi's intention.

    As for refining, you know even less about that, so I would stop even trying to rely on Google because you clearly don't have a clue how to interpret what you are reading.

    The US can refine anything that needs refining. RHCs were invented 20 years ago you dumbarse.

    FACT: The US can be self-sufficient in oil and natural gas whenever it feels it's the preferred economic solution.

    Now, either you understand that simple line or you're an idiot and you can't read.

    Which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I'll need some time to research
    Wot he say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Much more believable than your shite from “Tyler Durden” at Zero Hedge. Who the hell is Tyler Durden, anyway?
    Careful, you're getting sucked into the OhOh/Klondyke 'debate' form of obfuscation, deflection and utter fuckwittery

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Careful, you're getting sucked into the OhOh/Klondyke 'debate' form of obfuscation, deflection and utter fuckwittery

    Yes, it's easier just to remind everyone that it's one of HoHo's favourite whackjob websites.

    This particular one specialises in "predicting" global recessions every fucking day on the basis that sooner or later they are bound to get it right.

    In this instance, of course, their silly nonsense has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Thank you for your links, although not about our previous discussion. Many may read them and applaud your ability to obscure your previous claims.

    Have I disputed ameristan has a domestic oil and gas extraction and refining industry?

    My statemented was questioning whether it had, has, will have historically, now and in the future , a Self Sufficient oil industry.

    I also provided linked, ameristani government agency "facts", to strengthen my opinion.

    Which you again have failed to provide.



    Research and post what you wish. Possibly a course on presenting relevant info in a legible manner may help the "retards" to assimilate more readily.

    I fear your last two posts here are only accessible to our forum drunks. But that may well be your target audience.
    Why is The U.S. dependence on oil imports even relevant? China is much more reliant on oil imports than the U.S. It is also reliant on raw material and food imports from countries that are allied with the U.S.A.
    Australia alone has the largest deposits of iron ore, Lithium and Uranium in the world. Admittedly we are whores selling to the highest bidder, but if push comes to shove Australia will not back China against the USA as will most western democracies. Russia cannot afford to back China against the west either. China still is heavily reliant on the west for exports. The Chinese flu may have much longer and lasting effects as countries review their supply chains and over dependency on chinese imports, in the medical sector, as well as many others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Why is The U.S. dependence on oil imports even relevant? China is much more reliant on oil imports than the U.S. It is also reliant on raw material and food imports from countries that are allied with the U.S.A.
    Australia alone has the largest deposits of iron ore, Lithium and Uranium in the world. Admittedly we are whores selling to the highest bidder, but if push comes to shove Australia will not back China against the USA as will most western democracies. Russia cannot afford to back China against the west either. China still is heavily reliant on the west for exports. The Chinese flu may have much longer and lasting effects as countries review their supply chains and over dependency on chinese imports, in the medical sector, as well as many others.
    It's precisely why the chinkies have been running around using debt diplomacy and bribery to enslave foreign nations and plunder their resources.

    The fucking chinky parasites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's precisely why the chinkies have been running around using debt diplomacy and bribery to enslave foreign nations and plunder their resources.

    The fucking chinky parasites.
    The World Bank and IMF don't do this.?

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