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    I know not what nationality you and your family are, or if they are now, when they were or when they stopped being employed as diplomats and in what countries, if any.

    You have hidden talents. I only have facts and local contact, Thailand, experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Please do show me where I have even intimated that
    Your reply was negative, to my reply to sabang. Producing a positive. Which maybe was an error on my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Which maybe was an error on my part.
    It was.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I know not what nationality you and your family are, or if they are now, when they were or when they stopped being employed as diplomats and in what countries, if any.
    Why would you know this, but all of which has no bearing on our discussion about what diplomats really do and it doesn't vary much between countries.


    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I suspect very few "diplomats" actually do the "activities" you list.
    You suspect incorrectly, and who are you quoting "diplomats" and "activities" and in what context?

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    Sol travelled openly to Iraq on a normal commercial flight from Tehran, under a diplomatic passport in his own name, for an Iraqi sponsored diplomatic meeting to discuss a rapprochement with Saudi Arabia. Does this meet your definition of diplomacy Hat, or is that just the issuing of visas?
    To say nothing of the fact that a senior Iraqi General was simultaneously murdered too. This in Iraq- supposedly a US ally where US forces were there by sovereign agreement (but not now).
    You can put any gloss you like on it, but this criminal act potentially puts any diplomatic passport holder at risk- because, under a murderous precedent set by the US, diplomatic passports and missions are no longer respected or observed. To say nothing of the greatly enhanced risk of green on green (?) attacks, which makes amerka's dwindling bunch of allies very happy indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Does this meet your definition of diplomacy Hat, or is that just the issuing of visas?
    To say nothing of the fact that a senior Iraqi General was simultaneously murdered too. This in Iraq- supposedly a US ally where US forces were there by sovereign agreement (but not now).
    You can put any gloss you like on it, but this criminal act potentially puts any diplomatic passport holder at risk- because, under a murderous precedent set by the US, diplomatic passports and missions are no longer respected or observed. To say nothing of the greatly enhanced risk of green on green (?) attacks, which makes amerka's dwindling bunch of allies very happy indeed.
    I'm not quite sure where we disagree . . . but keep going

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Sol travelled openly to Iraq on a normal commercial flight from Tehran, under a diplomatic passport in his own name, for an Iraqi sponsored diplomatic meeting to discuss a rapprochement with Saudi Arabia. Does this meet your definition of diplomacy Hat, or is that just the issuing of visas?
    To say nothing of the fact that a senior Iraqi General was simultaneously murdered too. This in Iraq- supposedly a US ally where US forces were there by sovereign agreement (but not now).
    You can put any gloss you like on it, but this criminal act potentially puts any diplomatic passport holder at risk- because, under a murderous precedent set by the US, diplomatic passports and missions are no longer respected or observed. To say nothing of the greatly enhanced risk of green on green (?) attacks, which makes amerka's dwindling bunch of allies very happy indeed.
    I suspect the cover story of him dealing with Saudi Arabia is bullshit.

    As for the Iraqi general, he was probably involved in the repeated attacks on US bases that led to this strike in the first place. One of them killed a US contractor on 27th December. The US responded on the 29th. Then came the attack on the embassy.

    So the Iraqi general was probably in the pocket of the Iranians. So fuck him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I suspect the cover story of him dealing with Saudi Arabia is bullshit.

    As for the Iraqi general, he was probably involved in the repeated attacks on US bases that led to this strike in the first place. One of them killed a US contractor on 27th December. The US responded on the 29th. Then came the attack on the embassy.

    So the Iraqi general was probably in the pocket of the Iranians. So fuck him.
    turd bully alert!!!

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    'No, No America': Iraq protesters demand expulsion of U.S. troops

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Iraqis rallied in central Baghdad on Friday calling for the expulsion of U.S. troops, but the protest mostly dissipated after a few hours despite a cleric’s call for a “million strong” turnout.

    Populist cleric Moqtada al-Sadr convened the march after the U.S. killing of an Iranian general and an Iraqi paramilitary chief in Baghdad this month.

    His eventual decision to hold it away from a separate anti-government protest camp, and away from the U.S. embassy, looked pivotal in keeping the march peaceful.

    However two protesters were killed and 25 wounded later in a separate protest. Three French nationals and one Iraqi, working for charity SOS Chretiens d’Orient, also went missing in Baghdad, the NGO said.

    Throngs started gathering early on Friday at al-Hurriya Square near Baghdad’s main university. They avoided Tahrir Square, symbol of mass protests against Iraq’s ruling elite.

    “We want them all out - America, Israel, and the corrupt politicians in government,” said Raed Abu Zahra, a health worker from southern Samawa, who had come by bus to Baghdad and stayed in Sadr City, a sprawling district controlled by Sadr’s followers.

    “We support the anti-government protests in Tahrir Square as well, but understand why Sadr held this protest here so it doesn’t take attention from theirs,” he added.

    The protests have shattered nearly two years of relative calm following the 2017 defeat of Islamic State and threaten to send the country back into major civil strife.

    Unrest erupted in October with protests against a corrupt ruling elite, including Iran-backed politicians, that have met deadly force from government security forces and pro-Iran paramilitaries that dominate the state.

    Washington’s killing this month of Iranian military mastermind Qassem Soleimani added a new dimension to the crisis.

    It has temporarily united rival Shi’ite groups in opposition to the presence of U.S. troops - a rallying cry that critics say aims simply to refocus the street and kill the momentum of the anti-establishment protests that challenge their grip on power.

    Sadr, who commands a following of millions in vast Baghdad slums, opposes all foreign interference in Iraq but has recently aligned himself more closely with Iran, whose allies have dominated state institutions since a 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

    Sadr supported anti-government protests when they began in October, but did not publicly urge his followers to join them.

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    'No, No America': Iraq protesters demand expulsion of U.S. troops - Reuters

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    (Reuters say Tens of thousands)

    A protest of 3.5 million Iraqis marching, demanding that US troops leave Iraq. The called it the “Million Man March, and almost 4 million showed up, and mainstream media still won’t report on it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    A protest of 3.5 million
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    almost 4 million showed up
    All that in just one sentence . . . but yes, they have the right to demand the US leave their country. Now if he leadership would have the balls to pull through on that . . . but then . . . it's the ME

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    If the idiot love child is wittering on about the protests, they are demanding both the US AND IRAN leave their country.

    Which is a fair call, except the Shi'a that live there will march to the mad mullah drum beat even if they do depart.

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    Why aren't there;

    Any shops being firebombed?

    Tear gas being fired?

    Paving stones thrown?

    Public buildings being set on fire?

    Strange. This is after all, a Muslim country, devastated economy, run by religious nutjobs and supported by Russia and China. Who absolutely demand the right to wear g strings, beautify their bodies with tattoos, eat fast food .......


    "Somebody" needs to send their snipers/missile toting drones/innocuous virus phials/anthrax envelopes .... in, double quick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Why aren't there;

    Any shops being firebombed?

    Tear gas being fired?

    Paving stones thrown?

    Public buildings being set on fire?

    Strange. This is after all, a Muslim country, devastated economy, run by religious nutjobs and supported by Russia and China.
    Your anti-Muslim racist rants should be binned

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Why aren't there;

    Any shops being firebombed?

    Tear gas being fired?

    Paving stones thrown?

    Public buildings being set on fire?

    Strange. This is after all, a Muslim country, devastated economy, run by religious nutjobs and supported by Russia and China. Who absolutely demand the right to wear g strings, beautify their bodies with tattoos, eat fast food .......


    "Somebody" needs to send their snipers/missile toting drones/innocuous virus phials/anthrax envelopes .... in, double quick.


    Don't panic, once they start protesting the government, they will open fire with live rounds again.

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    ^You missed the raised eyebrow icon?

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    they will open fire with live rounds again
    Haven't all the "snipers" been flown to Germany, for a spot of "R&R" or flown to Libya as "peacekeepers"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Haven't all the "snipers" been flown to Germany, for a spot of "R&R" or flown to Libya as "peacekeepers"?
    Have they? Where do you get your intel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^You missed the raised eyebrow icon?

    Haven't all the "snipers" been flown to Germany, for a spot of "R&R" or flown to Libya as "peacekeepers"?
    Perhaps they could be flown in from Ukraine (by the incoming airline, lucky not to fly back), there were many in Kiev during the Maidan coup...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Have they? Where do you get your intel?
    Usually a daily carrier pigeon arrives late afternoon, if it's a blue one it's flown from the NW, if black with red speckles it's from the NE. ,

    But these "stories" are MSM sources

    Some ex-Iraqi occupiers have been flown to Germany and other places due to "headaches" allegedly.

    Trump Dismisses Troops’ Possible

    Brain Injuries as ‘Headaches’

    "President Trump on Wednesday dismissed concussion symptoms reported by several American troops after Iranian airstrikes on Al Asad Air Base in Iraq as “not very serious,” even as the Pentagon acknowledged that a number of service members were being examined for possible traumatic brain injury caused by the attack.

    “I heard they had headaches,” Mr. Trump said at a news conference in Davos, Switzerland. “No, I don’t consider them very serious injuries, relative to other injuries that I’ve seen.”

    The comments of the president, who avoided the Vietnam War draft with a medical diagnosis of bone spurs, drew swift criticism from veterans’ groups. ......

    At a separate event earlier in the day, General Grynkewich denied that the White House had influenced how and when the military acknowledged that several American troops at the Asad base in Iraq had concussion symptoms as a result of the Iranian missile strikes and were being flown to a United States military hospital in Germany for treatment."

    Trump Dismisses Troops’ Possible Brain Injuries as ‘Headaches’ - The New York Times

    Other ex-Iraqi occupiers have been flown to Libya via Turkey, although they may try for Europe, allegedly.

    Syrian fighters abandon Libyan War, flee towards Italy: report

    "Some Syrian fighters that went to fight in Libya have since abandoned the war and fled to Italy, opposition media sites claimed, as cited by Al-Watan.

    According to the reports, at least 17 of the Syrian fighters have already arrived in Italy after spending a short period of time inside Libya.


    The reports said that the Syrian fighters intentionally accepted the deployment to Libya in order to later escape into Italy.

    According to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), some 2,400 Syrian fighters have already traveled to Libya thus far.

    ......."



    Syrian fighters abandon Libyan War, flee towards Italy: report
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^You missed the raised eyebrow icon?



    Haven't all the "snipers" been flown to Germany, for a spot of "R&R" or flown to Libya as "peacekeepers"?
    You stupid boy.

    It's IRAQI soldiers that have been killing Sunni protesters.

    Probably Shi'a ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Why aren't there;

    Any shops being firebombed?

    Tear gas being fired?

    Paving stones thrown?

    Public buildings being set on fire?

    Strange. This is after all, a Muslim country, devastated economy, run by religious nutjobs and supported by Russia and China. Who absolutely demand the right to wear g strings, beautify their bodies with tattoos, eat fast food .......


    "Somebody" needs to send their snipers/missile toting drones/innocuous virus phials/anthrax envelopes .... in, double quick.

    Don't you hate it when reality bites you on the arse:

    Several killed as Iraqi security forces raid protest site | World news | The Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    reality bites you on the arse
    One man's "reality" is another's response to "saying bad things about ....".

    Totally legitimate in some "civilised" regimes. The dumb fuck crowds chant " Hup, Hup" as their loved ones leave for a "rotation".

    When they are "rotated" to a foreign hospitals with "headaches", do they protest, do they ask why ....?.

    Nah, they look away, the grunts are now just volunteers, paid mercenaries hired out by the "Commander In Chief", to our oh so moral "allies".

    Today's thrill is finding another illustrious download/change the TV channel, to sink into another victorious battle epic, whilst laying in their appropriately named, "Lazy Boy". The one with the refrigerated beer box, snack bucket and used diaper bin.

    A new phenomena, although the media has changed, the "story", hardly.

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    Sure, deflect as usual

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If the idiot love child is wittering on about the protests, they are demanding both the US AND IRAN leave their country.

    Which is a fair call, except the Shi'a that live there will march to the mad mullah drum beat even if they do depart.
    Difference that one is obliged to observe the legal order to leave a sovereign nation, while the other not only will not but influenced the demand in order toward pwning the country.

    Iran 1, great powers 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Difference that one is obliged to observe the legal order to leave a sovereign nation, while the other not only will not but influenced the demand in order toward pwning the country.

    Iran 1, great powers 0 Iraq -1
    FTFY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Sure, deflect as usual
    It's the HoHo mantra: "I've been pwned again, so I'll waffle".

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    Adding that long forgotten ingredient to the dish, is something of a art. If you'r at all bothered with enhancing the "meal".

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