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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Why the obsession with Blair?
    Betty basically comes here to cheer for her team, and socialists in suits keep her awake at night.

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    ^ thanks for your input, Cyrille; as valuable as usual...

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
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    Why the obsession with Blair? If Thatcher was in power she would have mostly likely just fucking nuked Iraq. Seems odd that you make such an effort to villainize someone who was basically just a yes man to the US government. Like any other British leader would have been different.
    If you want to talk about Thatcher starting wars then there's plenty to talk about there, but they don't relate to Iraq... Blair, of course, does relate to Iraq; he facilitated the Iraq war with his lies and propaganda - a war which has killed so many and caused massive suffering in the region ever since, and destabilised the world. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... have been a total disaster; nothing has been achieved for peoples' freedoms and liberty in those countries, just war and suffering while Blair and his ilk become massively wealthy (his shady business dealings while PM and afterwards could fill several volumes as well as adding $50,000,000+ to his bank account...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Herman, conventional discourse is very important and changes to it (abuses to it) need to be challenged rigorously. So, for example, when war mongering politicians use terms such as "collateral damage" it's important we highlight that the words mean: killing of innocent people - that is completely unacceptable. It's important to highlight that fact and keep highlighting it otherwise weak-minded folk will start to believe it's a normal use of words and collateral damage is ok; that it's ok to kill innocent people if you're a government and call it collateral damage...

    Another example is when Blair stated that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction time after time (fear-mongering) even though he knew it was not true and it was proven to be untrue. It's important we highlight that fact, so that Blair doesn't keep power thus causing war after war with lie after lie.

    In the example above, the term imminent has a very clear meaning: about to happen; known to be about to happen. But, because all of the British government's lawyers knew and stated that Blair's attack on Iraq was illegal, Blair's government brought in an outsider to make up new terms, ignore the law and lay the foundation to war with a pretence of 'legal status'. This individual, not part of the UK government team but an advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister, ignored all internationally accepted legal terms and changed the meaning of the word imminent to mean: was done before or might be done by somebody, unknown, at any time in the future. BTW, that's you and me and everyone else, at any time for any reason... It's very important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Cable news is showing the massive crowds on the streets of baghad screaming 'death to america'.
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    better Ray ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    just war and suffering while Blair and his ilk become massively wealthy (his shady business dealings while PM and afterwards could fill several volumes as well as adding $50,000,000+ to his bank account...).
    So I ask again how to you think it would be different if Thatcher was in office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
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    If Thatcher was in power she would have mostly likely just fucking nuked Iraq.
    Are'nt you being a bit harsh? After all, she did not nuke the Falklands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    what some here can't seem to grasp is that for trump this issue is the same as any other.....first and foremost it's about him.
    trump doesn't give a shit about iran or iraq....as long as they don't make him look weak.
    trump doesn't give a shit about anything except himself.
    trump is always and only about trump.

    do you think he gives a shit about health care for average americans? of course not. but obama embarrassed him, so he tried to kill his signature achievement.....just like the iran nuclear deal....just like cuba. FFS, if obama didn't resume relations with cuba, you can bet trump would have been down there trying to improve relations....not because he gives a shit about cubans...but because he would want to build hotels and apartment buildings with his name on them.

    and if anyone really thinks trump gives a shit about abortion, they need to get their heads examined....i'd wager he's paid for literally scores of abortions in his life.

    but i digress...
    As usual you are missing the point.

    Baldy orange cunto is just milking it to distract and fire up his base of trumpanzees.

    I have a few gun toting trumpanzee acquaintances on Facetubegram and they are eagerly posting shit like this.

    Think any of them are thinking about impeachment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Baldy orange cunto is just milking it to distract and fire up his base of trumpanzees.
    I have a few gun toting trumpanzee acquaintances on Facetubegram and they are eagerly posting shit like this.

    Think any of them are thinking about impeachment?
    once again, when we move beyond the realm of cartoons, you just don't get it harry....for trump this is a secondary motivation at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    conventional discourse is very important and changes to it (abuses to it) need to be challenged rigorously
    Right on Betty keep it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    but i digress...
    Don't we all.



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    So I ask again how to you think it would be different if Thatcher was in office?
    It’s expected when it’s a tory. The mass circulation newspapers are mostly tory, and they’d barely consider it news.
    Also once the money’s poured in there is barely any change in lifestyle.

    As I suggested, betty hates socialists behaving like tories. To her it’s like a dog flying. The order of the world is subverted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It’s expected when it’s a tory. The mass circulation newspapers are mostly tory, and they’d barely consider it news.
    Also once the money’s poured in there is barely any change in lifestyle.
    So it is no different in the UK. Lemmings vote outside of their own best interests and take it up the jacksie.

    Dimwits abound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    almost all countries don't even respect the U.N. charta.
    ?????
    Also the ones invaded?

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    ^The "almost all countries" would be the rump "coalition" of post invaders. "Bled" by an empire soon to be renamed due to majority being native Spanish speakers in one or two decades as;

    EDA (Estados Degenerado América).

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    this Iran thing is a nice distraction from the Impeachment process,

    again it is the Democrats fault that this whole thing is escalating by putting Trump into some unwarranted corner,

    of course, that will get Trump re-elected with the new war that is shaping now,

    good work, idiots

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    ^Similar procedure as used when Clinton was to be impeached

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    World war 3 was gunna kick off anyway,

    My mate The Donald just bought it forward a few decades.

    On ya Donald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ^ thanks for your input, Cyrille; as valuable as usual...

    If you want to talk about Thatcher starting wars then there's plenty to talk about there, but they don't relate to Iraq... Blair, of course, does relate to Iraq; he facilitated the Iraq war with his lies and propaganda - a war which has killed so many and caused massive suffering in the region ever since, and destabilised the world. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria... have been a total disaster; nothing has been achieved for peoples' freedoms and liberty in those countries, just war and suffering while Blair and his ilk become massively wealthy (his shady business dealings while PM and afterwards could fill several volumes as well as adding $50,000,000+ to his bank account...).
    One significant outcome of those wars is ObL's stated goal to bankrupt America, naturally as an alternative to removal of farangs from holy lands and conversion, which is actually a misnomer since one invalidates the other.

    While America is trillions indebted as a result of those wars and related actions, though far from bankrupt, the phenomenal loss of life, political and social costs, and the 'refugee crisis' which is still in low gear will have long term effects across the west. These far outweigh any good that came out of those wars, if anyone can highlight something good.

    Never mind the posturing, Western leaders are always on the back foot in dealing with that region, in part because they refuse to accept that not everyone cherishes freedom and rights and democracy, while the one thing they have in common is that they never have and imho never will acknowledge that historical and constantly recurring fact.

    Talk of deleting Iran is bullshit, fairy tales to nod off www warriors. Sure we can debate whether Iran's 'threats' to the west are real or perceived or manufactured, but so far as Trump is or should be concerned they are real and there is no solution to the multiheaded threats short of regime change, which being free of democratic niceties would result in carnage across the region with a tsunami for the rest of the world.

    You can't scare someone that believes they have you by the balls.

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    After reading this it could be "assumed" that the most powerful military in South Carolina has accepted defeat and intend to evacuate.

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    They look a tad Asian/Chinese, yes? Put them in tee shirts, ragged shorts and flip flops and they would fit in well in any Issan village.

    Taking over an unexceptional country bit by bit, minute by minute, top to bottom. This has to stop, now, next quarter, next year or never.

    Best ask the genocidal Republic's mature, intelligent, decision maker/leader. Anyone know who and where such a person of stature may be contacted?

    One wonders which Iraqi will deliver their eviction notice and when.
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    After reading this it could be "assumed" that the most powerful military in South Carolina has accepted defeat and intend to evacuate.

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...aring-move-out

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    They look a tad Asian/Chinese, yes? Put them in tee shirts, ragged shorts and flip flops and they would fit in well in any Issan village.

    Taking over an unexceptional country bit by bit, minute by minute, top to bottom. This has to stop, now, next quarter, next year or never.

    Best ask the genocidal Republic's mature, intelligent, decision maker/leader. Anyone know who and where such a person of stature may be contacted?

    One wonders which Iraqi will deliver their eviction notice and when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    They look a tad Asian/Chinese, yes? Put them in tee shirts, ragged shorts and flip flops and they would fit in well in any Issan village.
    Why in the hell are you bringing innocent kids and an Asian wife into this discussion? You should be ashamed of yourself.. Unbelievable!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    once again, when we move beyond the realm of cartoons, you just don't get it harry....for trump this is a secondary motivation at best.
    FFS you're dumber than he is if you believe he can juggle two motivations at once.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Herman, conventional discourse is very important and changes to it (abuses to it) need to be challenged rigorously.
    I know

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    Just for Ray....

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