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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    There's a reason Westminster doesn't want to let Scotland go.

    There's a reason the Scottish voted against independence.

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    And several reasons why, politically, September 2014 is one heck of a long time ago.

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    Exactly, a hell of a lot has changed since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    There's a reason Westminster doesn't want to let Scotland go.
    Give us a clue Dirk?

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    There are many reasons, no need for clues.

    And one of them is to do with submarines, obviously...

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    they should lock the silly cow up with some of her cocks in frocks and see how she likes it.

    Nicola Sturgeon to resign as Scotland's first minister

    Nicola Sturgeon is to resign as Scotland's first minister after more than eight years in the role.


    The Scottish National Party leader is expected to make the announcement at a hastily-arranged news conference in Edinburgh.


    It is not thought that her departure will be immediate, allowing time for a successor to be elected.


    A source close to Ms Sturgeon - the longest-serving first minister - told the BBC that she had "had enough".


    Follow live updates on Nicola Sturgeon's resignation
    Ms Sturgeon has been first minister since November 2014, when she took over from Alex Salmond following the independence referendum.


    The first minister will hold her press conference at Bute House in Edinburgh at 11:00.


    Ms Sturgeon has been a member of the Scottish Parliament since 1999, and became the deputy leader of the SNP in 2004.


    She then took over from Mr Salmond as leader and first minister after the defeat in the 2014 referendum.

    Nicola Sturgeon to resign as Scotland'''s first minister - BBC News

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    10:33AM
    Confirmed: Nicola Sturgeon will resign
    The Telegraph has now confirmed the BBC's report that Nicola Sturgeon will resign as Scottish First Minister.


    10:30AM
    Nicola Sturgeon said she had 'plenty in the tank' less than one month ago
    Nicola Sturgeon insisted less than a month ago that she was "nowhere near" ready to quit as Scotland’s First Minister as she said she still hoped to lead the country to independence.


    She told the BBC’s Sunday With Laura Kuenssberg programme on January 22 that she had "plenty in the tank".


    Ms Sturgeon told the programme she would "like to think" she would be the leader who takes Scotland out of the UK.


    10:24AM
    SNP official: 'Better to leave before the ship sinks and you’re pushed'
    An SNP official has described Nicola Sturgeon's expected resignation as a "Jacinda Ardern moment".


    The official told Politico: "It’s a Jacinda Ardern moment. Better to leave before the ship sinks and you’re pushed."


    10:23AM
    SNP MP 'absolutely gutted'
    Alison Thewliss, the SNP MP for Glasgow Central and the party’s home affairs spokesperson, said she was “gutted” at news of Nicola Sturgeon’s impending resignation.


    She tweeted: “Absolutely gutted about this. Nicola has been an incredible leader.”


    10:20AM
    Nicola Sturgeon's expected resignation stuns Westminster
    Nicola Sturgeon's expected resignation as Scottish First Minister has stunned Westminster.


    There had been nothing even rumoured along the lines of her quitting and the press conference at Bute House in Edinburgh at 11am was only announced just after 9am this morning.


    It is not yet clear if she will stand down immediately, or continue in the role until a new SNP leader is elected.

    Nicola Sturgeon to resign as Scottish First Minister - latest updates

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    will she get offered a place in the Lords

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    will she get offered a place in the Lords
    Would she accept as a true Scottish nationalist?

    Of course she would!

    She would accept a position in the house of lords quicker than dropping to her knees to suck of sleazy Salmond.

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    Jimmy Kranky obviously lying as to the reason for resigning yesterday.

    Nicola Sturgeon brought down by trans row as SNP prepares to rip up her gender Bill

    Nicola Sturgeon’s hopes of leading Scotland to independence came to an abrupt end after her radical approach to transgender rights cost her the support of her party.


    The Scottish First Minister unexpectedly announced her resignation as she admitted she had become a polarising figure.


    Ms Sturgeon said she was no longer capable of increasing support for independence. Her plans to change the law on gender self-identification are now set to be ditched by the SNP, The Telegraph understands.


    The highly controversial Gender Recognition Reform Bill, which proposed allowing anyone over the age of 16 to legally change their sex without consulting a doctor, was vetoed in Westminster. Sources in Holyrood have now suggested a proposed legal challenge will be quietly dropped.


    Ms Sturgeon’s husband Peter Murrell, the chief executive of the SNP, is under growing pressure from within the party to follow her out of the door in the face of a police investigation into the alleged disappearance of £600,000 in donations to the party.


    Douglas Ross, the Scottish Tory leader, accused Ms Sturgeon of presiding over almost a “decade of division and decay” in Scotland and prioritising independence over the interests of the public.


    Senior Labour figures believe Ms Sturgeon’s sudden resignation offers an opening for them to reverse a near decade-long slump in Scotland, after she led the SNP to a historic landslide in 2015.


    The party currently has just one MP in Scotland, with a series of Scottish leaders being overshadowed by the dominant First Minister. Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, believes a comeback north of the border is key to winning the next general election.


    At a hastily-arranged Bute House press conference, Ms Sturgeon insisted she was “proud” of her record but admitted to “regrets” that she had failed to achieve more.


    She insisted that her departure was not down to “short-term pressures”, a reference to her gender reforms and the scandal over trans double rapist Isla Bryson being initially placed in a female jail. Instead, she said it was because she had run out of energy.


    But one party source made it clear that the fallout over Ms Sturgeon’s transgender policies had been key to her demise.


    The source said: “We need to get back on track by pursuing things that matter to the people of Scotland, not pushing stuff that the public is vehemently opposed to.


    “I expect the gender reforms to be parked somewhere as quickly as possible. Any sensible new leader will want to get that off the front pages, and quickly.”


    Privately, senior figures within the SNP are highly critical of Ms Sturgeon’s failure to groom an obvious successor. They fear an unpopular new SNP leader would cause support for both the party and independence to collapse.

    Nicola Sturgeon brought down by trans row as SNP prepares to rip up her gender Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    We need to get back on track by pursuing things that matter to the people of Scotland, not pushing stuff that the public is vehemently opposed to.
    That would be a novel idea. Governing for the benefit of the people. Worth a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    That would be a novel idea. Governing for the benefit of the people. Worth a try.
    Yet, that's not what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    That would be a novel idea. Governing for the benefit of the people. Worth a try.
    depends upon the next First Minister and if they want to keep banging the independence gong

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    The First Minister is basically just the spokesman/woman/person for the party, same as the Prime Minister.

    A new First minister can not change the Independence agenda and drive of the whole party just because they feel like it.

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    The biggest mistake that Sturgeon and Salmon did was to not lobby for the whole of the UK to vote in the independence debacle.

    For sure they would have got a landslide victory

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    So Krankie wanted male rapists to be allowed to serve their time in womens prisons if they decided they wanted to be recognised as a woman.

    In the land of the men wearing frocks this is comedy gold

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    ^^ That's absolutely right Joe.

    Mostly due to the average IQ of the Nation as a whole.

    Scotland having only 8.015% of the UK population, you lot managed to vote us out of the EU.

    Give everyone a vote to boot us out, we wont even need to turn up.

    Win/lose.

    That would go down in history as the most stupid stunt you lot ever pulled, never mind Brexit.

    #votes4RUK
    Lang may yer lum reek...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    So Krankie wanted male rapists to be allowed to serve their time in womens prisons if they decided they wanted to be recognised as a woman.
    and murderers, kiddy fiddlers, all were welcome

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    Billy Krankies Scottish Referendum on Independence again-20230216_174746-jpg



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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    The First Minister is basically just the spokesman/woman/person for the party, same as the Prime Minister.

    A new First minister can not change the Independence agenda and drive of the whole party just because they feel like it.
    I think his point was that the next First Minister doesn't have to keep banging on about another pointless referendum every five fucking minutes, just because they want to be the first el presidente of the independent peoples republic of Scotlandia.

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    Billy Krankies Scottish Referendum on Independence again-untitled-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I think his point was that the next First Minister doesn't have to keep banging on about another pointless referendum every five fucking minutes, just because they want to be the first el presidente of the independent peoples republic of Scotlandia.
    Why do I have to keep repeating this?

    The First Minister and the SNP do not automatically for a new Government by default after a successful referendum result.

    Even the parties against the referendum will change their strategy and campaign to run an Independent Scotland.

    You know this.

    And, the First Minister absolutely will have to keep banging on about another Referendum, which is clearly not pointless. A LOT has changed since the last one. The Scots are pissed about Brexit.

    That clearly wasn't Scotland's agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    That clearly wasn't Scotland's agenda.
    losing a free handout never is, they obviously see a bigger handout from the EU than they get through the Barnett formula

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    losing a free handout never is, they obviously see a bigger handout from the EU than they get through the Barnett formula
    Learned that from the pikies, they've always got their grubby snouts in the Euro trough.

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    We want to live, work and trade freely in the EU sector.

    Brexit fucked us and if you lose us to IndyRef2 you only have yourself to blame.

    Losing Scotland would be very bad for the Rest of UK.

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