The CIA thread

[Klondyke]

When the US Supports It, It's Not a Coup

How the picture in my post above has changed? This one is the correct one:

[Backspin]

How the picture in my post above has changed? This one is the correct one:

The mods post this formerly prospective Pattaya fly club member , when your pic is out of spec apparently. Its called getting Bordain'd

[Klondyke]

^Thanks for the explanation. Why the picture should be out of spec? Of spec of who? A picture of Morales from the linked article is out of spec?

Perhaps, because of a picture of "dictator"...

[Backspin]

^Thanks for the explanation. Why the picture should be out of spec? Of spec of who? A picture of Morales from the linked article is out of spec?

Perhaps, because of a picture of "dictator"...

Yeah i dunno. Gotta take it up with the board of directors.

[cyrille]

Hope they speak good gibberish.

[PlanK]

^Thanks for the explanation. Why the picture should be out of spec? Of spec of who? A picture of Morales from the linked article is out of spec?

Perhaps, because of a picture of "dictator"...

It's a CIA plot! They've spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours to infiltrate TD because there were rumours that a paranoid conspiracy theorist was babbling on about non-existent bollocks.


Thanks, CIA.

[Backspin]

It's a CIA plot! They've spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours to infiltrate TD because there were rumours that a paranoid conspiracy theorist was babbling on about non-existent bollocks.


Thanks, CIA.

Infinitum ad absurdum

Next.

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spent millions of dollars and thousands of man hours to infiltrate TD

Nev has bought a few "trinkets" recently. In addition tech support for the site doesn't come cheap these days, upgrades, upgrades, roll backs, lost images/posts .... bring back windows 7 and our Belgian Boomer backstop.

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The Geostrategic Consequences Of The Hybrid War On Bolivia




Andrew Korybko, American political analyst


A Divide-And-Rule Domino Effect?

"The Hybrid War On Bolivia Succeeded In Carrying Out Regime Change" against democratically re-elected and legitimate President Morales, and the geostrategic consequences of this military coup could potentially be far-reaching. It first of all represents the belated success of the "Guaido Model" whereby a previously little-known politician (in the Bolivian context, Second Vice Speaker of the Senate Jeanine Añez) declares themselves "president" before, during, or after a Color Revolution and is installed in power with the help of military forces that betrayed the constitution, which didn't work in Venezuela because of that country's strong civic-military union but was pulled off in Bolivia precisely because the latter lacked the aforesaid, according to Venezuelan-Canadian freelance writer and activist Nino Pagliccia. Regional states much weaker than Venezuela could therefore fall victim to this regime change scenario, meaning that any potential gains that genuine grassroots forces might make in the ongoing so-called "South American Spring" could turn out to be temporary and possibly reversed so long as US spy agencies retain control of the military-intelligence faction of their "deep states".

Hybrid War In The South American Heartland

The author earlier identified Bolivia as the most strategically positioned state in South America in his June 2017 analysis about the continent's geopolitics, pointing out how the Andean nation is integral for any regional integration initiatives to succeed. This holds true not only for institutions such as Mercosur, but also for connectivity projects such as the Chinese-backed "Trans-Oceanic Railroad" (TORR) that's planned to cut through the country in linking the Brazilian Atlantic coast with the Peruvian Pacific one. The US, especially under the Trump Administration, is adamantly opposed to all of the New Silk Roads being built under the umbrella of China's Belt & Road Initiative (BRI), so it can't be discounted that the pro-American coup "authorities" might renege on their previous agreements with the People's Republic in this respect and possibly even go as far as "recognizing" Taiwan instead. That dramatic diplomatic pivot could be encouraged by the US in order to capsize China's $2.3 billion lithium deal that was clinched with Bolivia earlier this year, as well as to undermine their space and security cooperation since Beijing couldn't continue these strategic projects in that scenario.

The Lithium Link

Russia also stands to lose some of its influence in the event that the coup-imposed "authorities" renege on their previous cooperation agreements with it too. The Eurasian Great Power has strategic interests in Bolivia's lithium resources just like China does, which the author analyzed in his piece for Global Research over the summer about how "Russia's Bolivia Gambit Is A Bold Economic Move". The developing Russian-Chinese condominium over Bolivia's lithium resources could have seen both multipolar leaders collectively asserting their technological independence in the forthcoming era of electric vehicles and thus preventing the West from becoming the dominant force in this industry. Lithium, it should be pointed out, is a required component of the batteries that store the electric power in those vehicles, and it's actually much more important than cobalt (some of which is extracted by 35,000 Congolese child slaves) since the latter is being progressively phased out and replaced by other minerals that are more ethical, less costly, and more reliable from a supply chain standpoint. As it so happens, Bolivia has one of the world's largest lithium reserves, thus making it disproportionately strategic.

Hindsight Is 20/20

The author drew attention to this back in August 2016 in one of his Context Countdown analyses for Sputnik that was transcribed and republished by Global Research under the title "Lithium, A Strategic Resource: Here's Why The US Wants To Break Bolivia To Bits With Hybrid War", which presciently predicted some of the domestic fault lines that would later be exploited by the US during the latest Hybrid War in pursuit of obtaining control over this strategic resource. That piece came several months after the author first identified Bolivia as a likely victim of the US' global Hybrid War campaign in a March 2016 forecast for Oriental Review about "Predicting The Next Hybrid Wars", which was the third chapter in his "Law Of Hybrid Warfare" e-book series covering both the Eastern Hemisphere and Western Hemisphere. In hindsight, it therefore wasn't surprising whatsoever that the US would target Bolivia for regime change since it always wanted to dominate the global lithium industry and create a geostrategic wedge for perpetuating its historic divide-and-rule policy in South America, both of which are in the process of being accomplished after the recent military coup.

Russia & China's Diplomatic Dilemma

As such, it remains to be seen whether the Russian and Chinese governments will recognize the de-facto results of this regime change operation despite its outcome being totally illegal by both domestic and international standards. On the one hand, they might believe that recognizing the coup-imposed "authorities" could prevent them from reneging on the aforementioned strategic agreements that these two Great Powers reached with Bolivia, while on the other, doing so might weaken their case for taking these same "authorities" to international court in the event that they do indeed renege on those deals. Russia and China are therefore in a very tricky position because the new "authorities" might use those agreements as blackmail for receiving those two's recognition (as well as threatening to "recognize" Taiwan unless China bestows them recognition in the near future first), which would greatly "legitimize" the US' Hybrid War on Bolivia as well as any forthcoming ones in the region and elsewhere that it successfully wages. From the Russian and Chinese positions, however, there's no guarantee that those "authorities" will keep their word and won't ditch the deals right afterwards.

From Great Powers To Passive Observers

Objectively speaking, the US has much more influence over the current Bolivian "authorities" than either Russia or China do, so it would ultimately come down to whether Washington has the "goodwill" to "allow" La Paz to respect those agreements or not, which is extremely unlikely. Neither of those two Great Powers could realistically reverse their prospective recognition of the coup "authorities" if the latter pull out of the agreements because it would then reveal their intentions in recognizing them in the first place to have been entirely self-serving and therefore harm their soft power standing across the world. Considering this, the optimal approach that they might choose to apply could be to maintain pragmatic working contacts with the new "authorities" but withhold recognition until the outcome of UN-recognized free and fair elections. The "politically inconvenient" fact is that neither Russia nor China have the capability to influence the course of events in Bolivia in one way or the other even if they had the political will to do so, so they're essentially powerless to intervene and are thus nothing more than passive observers, albeit ones who stand to lose a whole lot if everything continues to go awry."

The Geostrategic Consequences Of The Hybrid War On Bolivia

[harrybarracuda]

More tin foil fucking nonsense.

[Backspin]

More tin foil fucking nonsense.

Bolivia was marked on this day. There's a reason why most have-not countries never speak up at the UN.

[harrybarracuda]

Bolivia was marked on this day. There's a reason why most have-not countries never speak up at the UN.

What day was that then?

[Backspin]

What day was that then?

The day that Bolivia was at the UN show boating about how the US staged the "chemical weapons" attack in Syria. As seen in the picture i posted for the people that have eyes.

[AntRobertson]

The day that Bolivia was at the UN show boating about how the US staged the "chemical weapons" attack in Syria. As seen in the picture i posted for the people that have eyes.

...

Bolivia was marked on this day. There's a reason why most have-not countries never speak up at the UN.

[harrybarracuda]

The day that Bolivia was at the UN show boating about how the US staged the "chemical weapons" attack in Syria. As seen in the picture i posted for the people that have eyes.

So somehow you equate that with an unpopular leader being ousted by his own people for being caught trying to fix an election.

You really are a fucking dumbarse.

[Klondyke]

unpopular leader

for 13 years...
Of course, he hasn't been so popular as e.g. Pinochet, has he?

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an unpopular leader being ousted by his own people for being caught trying to fix an election.

One wonders how many other leaders try the same method.

[Backspin]

So somehow you equate that with an unpopular leader being ousted by his own people for being caught trying to fix an election.

You really are a fucking dumbarse.

And the hodge podge government that was thrown together to replace him, is blatantly pro US.

And YOU think this happened by accident. And you think I am the fucking dumbarse.

Why was the leader bulled over even though he agreed to early elections ? Because it was the US allied CIA supported opposition that was worried about their chances in the election. And "the people" didnt overthrow him. The military was bought off with big paychecks.

[Backspin]

One wonders how many other leaders try the same method.

The fix was in for Bernie sanders by Clinton in 2016.

But they all do it to some extent. It is just politics. So who cares.

It just gets awfully annoying that whenever a US adversary is overthrown, or when there's political turmoil in any country it gets romanced up in our media and pushed as justice for the people and a fight against corruption.

[Klondyke]

...unpopular leader being ousted by his own people ...

And the "ousting by his own people" is helped by police and army...

Bolivia clashes leave three dead as security forces break fuel blockade
22 injured as armoured cars and helicopters deployed

Evo Morales supporters call on interim president to quit
Reuters in La Paz

An army helicopter flies over the road leading to the Senkata filling gas plant in El Alto, on the outskirts of La Paz, Bolivia, as supporters of Evo Morales set up barricades on Tuesday. Photograph: Natacha Pisarenko/AP

At least three people have been killed and 22 injured after Bolivian police and military forces used armored vehicles and helicopters to unblock access to a major fuel plant that had been blockaded by supporters of former president Evo Morales.

Smoke rose from burning tyres and a military helicopter was seen flying over the area near the the Senkata gas plant on Tuesday, after security forces ended the blockade which had cut off fuel supply to nearby La Paz.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-fuel-blockade

[harrybarracuda]

One wonders how many other leaders try the same method.

Why does one wonder when there are plenty of examples right on your fucking doorstep.

[harrybarracuda]

And the hodge podge government that was thrown together to replace him, is blatantly pro US.

And YOU think this happened by accident. And you think I am the fucking dumbarse.

Why was the leader bulled over even though he agreed to early elections ? Because it was the US allied CIA supported opposition that was worried about their chances in the election. And "the people" didnt overthrow him. The military was bought off with big paychecks.

Why would you let a leader who has been caught trying to fix an election have another go at it?

You fucking idiot.

The new government is there to launch a free and fair election that the greasy cheating wanker can't nobble.

[harrybarracuda]

The fix was in for Bernie sanders by Clinton in 2016.

But they all do it to some extent. It is just politics. So who cares.

That wasn't an election you moron.

That was a private party system that they manipulated to their own ends.

[harrybarracuda]

Neither Evo Morales nor his former vice-president Álvaro García Linera – who both resigned under pressure this month – will be candidates for their Movement for Socialism (Mas) party in Bolivia’s next elections, a prominent party official has said.

“We are going to participate in the elections and we are going to do it with young candidates, especially for president and vice-president,” Henry Cabrera, senior Mas member and vice-president of the house of deputies, told Reuters.
“We are not going to recycle candidates.“
Bolivia’s interim government presented a bill on Wednesday that would annul the disputed 20 October vote, appoint a new electoral board and forge a path to new elections. Cabrera said Mas would not propose members for the new electoral board.
The South American country’s two chambers of congress are expected to debate the bill beginning on Thursday and possibly extending into Friday. There is no date set for new elections.
Morales, García Linera and several other top Mas officials stepped down on 10 November under pressure from protesters, civil groups, security forces and allies, as well as an international audit that found serious irregularities in the election count.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-for-socialism

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as an international audit that found serious irregularities in the election count.

Now there's an expanding career gravy train, what qualifications are required to become selected?