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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Do you consider that to be okay?
    Do I consider it OK to call a young lady with a passion for science and a desire to do good "emotionally unstable and mentally disordered"?

    No, I think it's pretty pathetic really.

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    Quite a few people not caring about child welfare on here.



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    Her twitter feed shows she would be quite capable of debating with her doubters and detractors on here.

    Here we go again...As you may have noticed, the haters are as active as ever - going after me, my looks, my clothes, my behaviour and my differences.They come up with every thinkable lie and conspiracy theory. (Thread->)











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    It seems they will cross every possible line to avert the focus, since they are so desperate not to talk about the climate and ecological crisis.Being different is not an illness and the current, best available science is not opinions - it’s facts. ->



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    I honestly don’t understand why adults would choose to spend their time mocking and threatening teenagers and children for promoting science, when they could do something good instead. I guess they must simply feel so threatened by us. ->



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    But don’t waste your time giving them any more attention.The world is waking up. Change is coming wether they like it or not.See you in the streets this Friday!#fridaysforfuture#schoolstrike4climate#climatestrike#aspiep





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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi

    Quite a few people not caring about child welfare on here.
    Oh well you could always start a foundation to care for children with emotional instability and mental disorders since you're so concerned about their well-being and them being bullied and stuff.

    Get around to it after you've stopped calling children emotional unstable and mentally disordered maybe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post


    Quite a few people not caring about child welfare on here.


    Where did you get this idea that her welfare is in peril?

    Is it simply the fact the she seems more emotionally and intellectually developed than you were when you were 16?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    you could always start a foundation to care for children with emotional instability and mental disorders since you're so concerned about their well-being and them being bullied and stuff.
    Actually, I care about the welfare of all children, not just the ones that are emotionally unstable and/or have mental disorders.


    I certainly wouldn't promote putting one a pedestal in front of the world, where they're likely to be mocked and jeered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Where did you get this idea that her welfare is in peril?
    Teens that are bullied are likely to suffer long-term effects. As adults they're:

    4 times as likely to develop an anxiety disorder in adulthood.
    5 times greater risk of suffering from depression in adulthood.
    10 times the likelihood of suicidal thoughts or actions.
    15 times the likelihood of developing a panic disorder.



    But hey, apparently she makes old men angry, so, err, great! Put her up where she's likely to be mocked in front of the World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    Actually, I care about the welfare of all children, not just the ones that are emotionally unstable and/or have mental disorders.


    I certainly wouldn't promote putting one a pedestal in front of the world, where they're likely to be mocked and jeered.
    Your concern that a child you're denigrating as being emotionally unstable and mentally disordered may be mocked and jeered is...touching.

    Meanwhile climate change and stuff is still happening but hey let's focus on the important stuff and the real issue here: Greta herself.

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    if we do have to believe the climate change experts, it's already too late anyhow, so what the fook all the fuss is about?

    we should have started to be serious 30 years ago, but it didn't happen

    too little too late now, so let's enjoy the party while we can

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    denigrating
    Err, no.

    Stating that someone is emotionally unstable and has a mental disorder isn't denigrating. It's stating that they are....


    Especially worth mentioning when talking about them being put up on show in front of the World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post

    Meanwhile climate change and stuff is still happening but hey let's focus on the important stuff and the real issue here: Greta herself.
    indeed, it's happening, but guess what, it's too late to reverse anything, so not sure what Greta is trying to accomplish with her tantrum outside of being annoying and reminding us that we are all fooked and it's all too late

    thanks for the late warning, Gretta, now go back and enjoy life like any 'normal' kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Err, no.

    Stating that someone is emotionally unstable and has a mental disorder isn't denigrating. It's stating that they are....


    Especially worth mentioning when talking about them being put up on show in front of the World.
    indeed, it's quite sad. What a freak show. People instrumenting her should be ashamed. What's going to happen when she is not getting to get her wishes with world leaders? fall into depression and try to commit suicide? all for the benefits of a few Environmentalist loons trying to cry wolf when it's fooking too late already?

    what's the point, really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    Err, no.

    Stating that someone is emotionally unstable and has a mental disorder isn't denigrating. It's stating that they are....
    It's denigrating because you're not in a position to be diagnosing that and you're using it to belittle her and sideline her message over some concern about her being mocked and jeered.

    Your whole position basically comes down to you've decided that she's emotionally and mentally unstable and therefore everyone has to agree that she is or they're child abusers/endangers or something... Fkn dumb.

    Morons gonna moron and mock and jeer her regardless because that's just what morons do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    you're not in a position to be diagnosing
    I didn't diagnose her.

    Doctors did.



    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Morons gonna moron and mock and jeer her
    Exactly.

    And the effects of this on her later life could be.....



    Well:

    Teens that are bullied are likely to suffer long-term effects. As adults they're:

    4 times as likely to develop an anxiety disorder in adulthood.
    5 times greater risk of suffering from depression in adulthood.
    10 times the likelihood of suicidal thoughts or actions.
    15 times the likelihood of developing a panic disorder.



    But hey, you obviously don't care about that. Stick her up in front of the world to be mocked and jeered, eh.

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    How am I doing for my first foray into Speaker's Corner?


    Will have to pop in more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    I didn't diagnose her.

    Doctors did.
    Link?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    And the effects of this on her later life could be.....
    ...sparking a movement that leads to some actual change that benefits all of humanity?

    Terrible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Link?
    Now who's being silly...


    Do you think she's lying when she talks about her disorder?

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    What a waste of time on this topic. Just gone off to the absurd now.

    Mods chuck this thread into the DH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    Now who's being silly...


    Do you think she's lying when she talks about her disorder?
    Still you.

    She said she was diagnosed with and has Asperger's -- a lot of successful, accomplished, and talented people do according to the list AO posted.

    You are the one conflating that with emotional and mental instability. Not her, not her doctors, you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    How am I doing for my first foray into Speaker's Corner?
    Well you seemed pretty determined to try on every logical fallacy going for size and are persisting with this line of specious argument and spurious questions...

    So not too bad, pretty solid effort first up all things considered.

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    Ant, as usual, you are missing the point

    her being smart, despite Asperger (actually they all smart by definition), is not the issue here,

    the issue is why now, and why so urgent, and why being so angry about it by blaming everyone

    fine, we are all guilty, but it's too late anyhow, so let's move on, there is no alternative and the world is already fucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    She said she was diagnosed with and has Asperger's -- a lot of successful, accomplished, and talented people do
    Err, yeah. And when I mention it, I'm apparently denigrating her.


    When it comes down to it, a child shouldn't be put up into the limelight in front of the world, especially when they are unstable and have a mental disorder.

    Due to the effects that being mocked and jeered in front of the world could have on their future well-being.

    The long-term effects of being bullied as a teen are well known and documented (and listed above).


    I'd care for her future well-being (any child's future well being)

    You obviously don't.


    As they say, up to you. But your lack of caring is a bit sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    How am I doing for my first foray into Speaker's Corner?

    Making an arse of yourself by the looks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Making an arse of yourself by the looks.
    So he is fitting in then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    How am I doing for my first foray into Speaker's Corner?
    Oi ... who sailed this into the Speakers Corner?

    Was the move carbon neutral?

    Captain Nev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    Err, yeah. And when I mention it, I'm apparently denigrating her.
    Because you are. She said she has Aspergers, what you are saying isn’t the same.

    You’re trying to ‘protect’ her from being jeered and mocked by deciding she’s too limited due to mental and emotional instability to deal with it when you simply are neither qualified nor in a position to make that determination.

    All objective evidence suggests she’s more than capable of dealing with naysayers and detractors with aplomb.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    But your lack of caring is a bit sad.
    Your straw men are unbecoming, dumb, and increasingly tedious.


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