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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    House prices have risen,
    This is positive for . . . whom?


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    second hand car prices have risen.
    Supply issues, beneficial for . . . whom?


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    The futures bright for Brexit Britain.
    Except that it isn't, aside from Taxidriver getting more fish. Where are all these new partnerships with countries? Where is the trade wealth and infrastructure investment coming from?

    Nah, this thing has been screwed up badly

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    My teenage children found it difficult to secure part time employment before Brexit and lockdown.
    Now they have an abundance of choices and can cherry pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    you stupid whippet-fucking Northern tyke
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    oh jesus. it lives
    Shakespeare ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    My dear Norton, Brexit destroyed British politics and we are now left with a pantomime in which there are no leading protagonists, only clowns, buffoons and hapless pratfall merchants acting as shills for private hedge fund carpetbaggers looking to make a killing.

    We are firmly in The Age of The Stupid and the credulous, ignorant and dull-witted English are in the majority.

    The only thing that will rouse them from their torpor of imbecility is the certainty that they will become poorer the longer BoJo and Brexiteers reign.
    As you know I am not a Brit but do enjoy your politics and debate here in the Doors.
    You folks have Boris and we had Trump. From my viewpoint both are acknowledged as, and extremely politically effective, clowns.

    As an outsider, the whole brexit thing makes no sense. Leaving a perfectly functioning trade organization to go it alone seems, to put it mildly, not in the best interests of the UK. Only thing I can think of is must be some sort of Brit pride underlying the reason brexit passed.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Only thing I can think of is must be some sort of Brit pride underlying the reason brexit passed.
    or the same reason trump was voted in - racism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe 90 View Post
    My teenage children found it difficult to secure part time employment before Brexit and lockdown.
    Now they have an abundance of choices and can cherry pick.
    You are looking at it from such a micr-perspective, Chitty . . . and that's good for you. The bigger picture doesn't mirror your personal issues, though.

    You said house prices are soaring - how does this benefit you?

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    Expecting the lumpen stupid and merely ignorant English to comprehend the scale of this chaotic BoJo government's abysmal performance in grappling with the disaster that was Brexit is of course impossible, they are quite simply too dumb, but the real issue that I find intriguing is just why the seemingly intelligent continue to manifest a similar obduracy in accepting the truth that both Brexit and BoJo are terrible mistakes. Not pointing any fingers but really, one had always assumed that in order to qualify and practise, say, as a dentist folk had to be seized of a modicum of intelligence but apparently not, it seems. Ah well.

    According to the Office for Budgetary Responsibility, the independent body responsible for assessing and reporting government spend and the economy's performance, the UK has suffered a contraction of the economy caused by the trade barriers erected by the UK with the EU and the impact upon GDP is on course to stick to a loss of 4% for the foreseeable future.

    Most so-called free trade deals so far negotiated with global partners have merely replicated what Britain already had when it was a member of the EU. The one exception is the Australia deal which has seen BoJo the Clown and the nympho dumbbell Truss exposing British beef markets, rearing quality produce, to the competition of cheap trash meat raised on scrubland farms the size of Israel. But the overall impact on British GDP will be negligible.

    The much vaunted dream that the UK will replace its lost trade with the EU, around Ł60 billions annually, by selling golden unicorns to the US has totally fizzled out and even if a deal was struck the impact would be such that existing trade would only be bolstered by 1% and insufficient to compensate for the loss of EU trade.

    Before Brexit 70% of the UK's fishery catch was exported to the EU, a statistic that was explained by the following: the Brits don't like fish and prefer meat but the Continentals love it and lap it up AT A PRICE MUCH HIGHER THAN IT WOULD FETCH IN THE UK. Since Brexit and the fuckwittery of the barriers raised by BoJo those unfettered markets are now no longer available to the trawler men who are now dumping the catch on domestic markets at a loss or simply destroying it.

    The sheer cost of BoJo's customs barriers has curtailed thousands of SMEs from exporting to their customers in the EU who are now no longer prepared to pay the premium that comes with that bureaucracy and are changing their supply chains to those intra EU.

    The effect of ending free movement of labour needs no elaboration on my par t- even the thickest Brexiteer and BoJo apologist knows that whole industries, from transport to agriculture, from food processing to tourism, have been fucked over mightily by this madness.

    The upshot of all this is profit losses, higher costs and the return of inflation which will inevitably lead to higher interest rates provoking demands for higher wages leading to more inflation raising costs and eroding profits.

    It's a car accident happening in slow motion Tax and the man at the wheel is a drunken, lazy dilettante incapable of organising anything more than the alignment of his cock and nut sack in his pants.

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    Excellent facts and figures presented . . . now expect the usual soap-dodgers to counter by talking about age-related death, jumping off balconies, a scrotum etc...

    Ah, Brexit . . .
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    lumpen stupid

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    as usual, just meaningless location and alcohol based insults instead of facts from the socialist remainers who wont give up.

    so i am sorry to report that in spite of what you fact seekers might read or hear from the guardian or the bbc, the uk is doing quite well at the moment, better than france or germany actually, and the long game that is brexit is playing out as predicted.

    the expected hardships are being dealt with, there will of course be hiccoughs, but over time they will go away, and as the eu slowly descends into acrimony amongst its 27 member states, the uk will gradually rise, phoenix like, from the ashes of both the pandemic and the shock of brexit. in fact the pandemic is just about over here in the uk. everything is open and british blood is teeming with the t cells and antibodies that boriss vaccination roll out have blessed us with. my 4th jab is due in a couple of weeks. whilst restaurants and nightclubs in munich, malmo and marseilles are shut, those in manchester are heaving, and for those who want a pint, well, the pubs are open. try getting a pint in pattaya or phuket at the moment.


    meanwhile, there are none of the predicted food shortages, the supermarket shelves are groaning with produce, full employment beckons and foreign investment is higher than ever, and apart from mask wearing, it seems that life is just about back to normal gain. hopefully it will stay like that.

    all thats needed now is a reversal of boris's suicidal drive for carbon neutrality.

    p.s. it will be interesting to see how the eu, (and especially the eus big cheese, germany, who stand to lose a lot), deal with the economic threat to lithuania from the chinese over its relationship with taiwan.



    organising anything more than the alignment of his cock and nut sack in his pants.
    always a most satisfying manoeuvre, especially for us well endowed northerners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    The effect of ending free movement of labour needs no elaboration on my par t- even the thickest Brexiteer and BoJo apologist knows that whole industries, from transport to agriculture, from food processing to tourism, have been fucked over mightily by this madness.
    will need to up their game and pay proper wages as opposed to paying the bare minimum and leaving the UK Govt to subsidise a barely sustainable income with Tax Credits and handouts, all the while the company execs are paying themselves ever higher wages and bonuses on the back of profits in part driven by low cost of sales (wages) - perhaps this is why the CBI are whinging, the low wage party is over and these cvnts will have to actually work for their bonuses.

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    Dream on tax...

    ...It's only fitting that Boris is at the helm now the majority have realised just how big a mistake Brexit was.

    The UK keep fooling themselves about Covid, money is more important than people.

    Much prefer to be in Munich next week than any city in the UK..

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    will need to up their game and pay proper wages as opposed to paying the bare minimum and leaving the UK Govt to subsidise a barely sustainable income with Tax Credits and handouts, all the while the company execs are paying themselves ever higher wages and bonuses on the back of profits in part driven by low cost of sales (wages) - perhaps this is why the CBI are whinging, the low wage party is over and these cvnts will have to actually work for their bonuses.
    It was always a myth that the EU workers, around 2 million economically active, somehow magically depressed the wage levels for the remaining 31 million in UK employment.

    The thing is, there is now a labour shortage and in order to induce bone idle indigenous English to work hard and get their pinkies dirty, it will require unfeasibly large inducements that will ultimately undermine competitiveness.

    The solution is, I believe, the Home Office will widen the scheme for the importation of migrant labour to include many more from India, Asia and Wales.

    Brexit is such a success.

    As I said, inflation is now unleashed and with the continuing weak Ł, still 10 -15% less than the $ and Euro at pre-Brexit referendum levels, and the baht of course, interest rates are heading north. The stock markets will not like that. 60% of food and energy is imported and that humongous gross govt debt now at 103% of GDP will need servicing. The stagflation spiral is building vermore. Just wait until those taxes bite harder in April onwards, and folk who bought into their huge mortgage deals now coming out of the fixed rates will have to face another 1.5% increase with every prospect it will climb further. That property market is certainly facing squeaky buttock time particularly when 60% of the average national wage earners simply cannot afford the multipliers necessary to buy a a shitty little terraced bothy in some squalid Yorkshire mining town.

    In the end, it's always the same, folk stop spending, consumer demand withers, production slows, jobs are lost, unemployment rises, personal debt rises to critical levels, tax revenues fall, prices rise even more, productivity weakens and competitiveness globally falls away.

    The future.

    Eat it up Brexiteers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    so i am sorry to report that in spite of what you fact seekers might read or hear from the guardian or the bbc, the uk is doing quite well at the moment, better than france or germany actually, and the long game that is brexit is playing out as predicted.

    the expected hardships are being dealt with, there will of course be hiccoughs, but over time they will go away, and as the eu slowly descends into acrimony amongst its 27 member states, the uk will gradually rise, phoenix like, from the ashes of both the pandemic and the shock of brexit.

    .
    Clearly, no-one has actually told the poor chap that many of the barriers imposed by the Brexitory party were in fact deferred until the beginning of this year and several have been delayed yet again because the English are unable to organise them properly and have yet to prepare the lumpen lower end and the merely stupid for the impact upon their incomes.

    Oh, before I forget Tax, what is it that BoJo is now going to sell to the world he couldn't before Brexit?

    And so far all we have had is the extensive catalogue of demerits spawned by Brexit, what have been the material and tangible benefits to losing unfettered trade and free movement, Tax?

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    Much prefer to be in Munich next week than any city in the UK..
    i have friends in munich, they have the condo next to ours in hua hin, i speak with them regularly and they tell me that life in munich at the moment is full of restrictions. empty streets, closed businesses and like everywhere else there is high inflation and the german car industry is on its knees thanks to both chip shortages and labour shortages. they have all gone back to poland and turkey!

    most of todays problems are nothing to do with brexit, but all to do with the pandemic.


    will need to up their game and pay proper wages as opposed to paying the bare minimum and leaving the UK Govt to subsidise a barely sustainable income with Tax Credits and handouts, all the while the company execs are paying themselves ever higher wages and bonuses on the back of profits in part driven by low cost of sales (wages) - perhaps this is why the CBI are whinging, the low wage party is over and these cvnts will have to actually work for their bonuses
    exactly. brexit was never going to be a seamless transition. acceptance and adjustment takes time.



    squalid Yorkshire mining town.
    enough already!

    no wonder you are angry, you are languishing chided, wrong footed, beaten, confined, watched and controlled in an unsaleable and depreciating asset in the sweaty stained gusset of a corrupt sleazy whore infested military dictatorship , yet all the while hurling abuse, bile and castigation at those brighter ones who had the foresight, naus and confidence to back a winner.

    antibody rich, free and grateful to our leader for choosing the right path, we do feel your pain, we honestly do, as our investments grow and our horizons broaden. your hong kong purchasers no doubt saw sense, decided against purchasing a pattaya bolt hole and took advantage of boris's generous invitation and uk visa offer, exchanged their hk dollars for Ł instead of the worthless baht and are probably by now nicely ensconced in a hampshire cottage sitting in front of a crackling log fire with a range rover in the driveway and thanking their lucky stars covid struck and they changed their minds in time.

    so near were you to your goal, and yet .... and yet ............. so far away.

    how galling it must be. hence the anger of course.

    so tootle pip old chap, just about to settle down with the sunday papers, a g and t, and snack on some lovely salty pork scratchings.

    squalid yorkshire mining towns, where have you been ? that was 30 years ago. its all green fields, sculpture parks, artisan coffee houses and sourdough loaves now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    no wonder you are angry,
    Permanently so it seems, still if it keeps him going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Excellent facts and figures presented . . . now expect the usual soap-dodgers to counter by talking about age-related death, jumping off balconies, a scrotum etc...

    Ah, Brexit . . .
    That’s right. We only have to fear the sweeping generalisations about the ‘English’, when he knows full well that the BR in Brexit refers to the Scots, the Welsh and the Northern Irish.
    Such histrionics devalues his input as an outspoken remainer who has returned from a sojourn to regale us with his hatred of the country that employed him, and now pays his pension.

    As he has been informed previously, such hatred and vitriol has no bearing on the outcome of anything. Perhaps he’s waiting for a Labour government to reverse Brexit?
    Happy to see nothing has changed while you were away SA.

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    ^ Except brexit doesn't really apply to NI ...they were thrown under a bus by Boris...remember.

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    Boris has written at least 10 books. Looking back I have to wonder if recent US presidents even know what a book is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Looking back
    Not too far back.

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    ^ The exception that proves the rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the uk will gradually rise, phoenix like, from the ashes of both the pandemic and the shock of brexit.

    You is havin a larf.

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    Nice to see the Britain's finest debating society back in session.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Not too far back.

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    Not even that far ...Biden's Autobiography has been published as well as other books...Trump used ghostwriter and has several books as well as the hundreds written about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Not even that far ...Biden's Autobiography has been published as well as other books...Trump used ghostwriter and has several books as well as the hundreds written about him.
    And BoJo’s are written by a committee.

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