Thread: Prime Minister Boris Johnson

If they are going to do something now is the time, two years away from an election and time to try to repair the reputational damage. I hope he gets booted out but the show of support from the cabinet suggests otherwise.

" fucking socialists": unless you come from a family descended from Norman aristocracy, British socialism has improved your life beyond belief - you wouldn't even have a vote without them. The aristocracy never gave up anyting willingly.

i come from a family of immigrants who arrived in the country penniless and were given nothing by the state. they survived through the struggle and hard work of self employment and never stooped so low as to accept handouts.

apart from starting the nhs, socialism never did anything for them except take their money to subsidise the lazy, the feckless and the bludger.

the country has always been left worse off after a socialist administration has been booted out. the socialism that the labour party offer is the politics of envy and levelling down. i would welcome the kind of socialism practised in the nordic states, but the union led agendas offered by the labour party are too far removed from that.

"green fundamentalism that will bankrupt millions": it will be a difficult transition to be sure, especially in the short term, but without such a transition the future will be bankruptcy without the possibility of repair.

it is an impossible transition unless every country on the planet participates and co operates. and that will never happen. wait until the mini nuclear reactor technology has been developed, about 25 years, before banning oil, coal and gas. then power will be abundant and cheap.

better to concentrate on banning the plastics that are choking the planet and controlling the birth rate to reduce consumption than this lemming like rush to net zero for the west whilst the east carries on as normal.

Even Starmer understands that the Labour Party, in its current state, is no ready to lead the UK anywhere. That is the reason he has spurned the many opportunities he had had to unseat Johnson. The BBC and other left wing media have witnessed this hesitancy in the Labour leadership, and tried to remove Johnson by firing public opinion.

In truth, there is no suitable replacement for Johnson within his own party and Labour are not ready, or willing to risk replacing him. Starmer prefers to wait and let the Tories destroy themselves from within?
Added to which, the feeling at voter level has drifted towards centrism as the common sense political choice for a country undergoing a Phoenix moment.

No one will take responsibility for what comes next. A brave new world, or a headlong rush to follow the badly broken US system?

Nobody is irreplaceable and certainly not Boris.

Originally Posted by Troy

Nobody is irreplaceable and certainly not Boris.

Serious question though, who could replace him?

^ That's for the Tory party to decide but whoever it is will need to be good at repairing the damage caused by this government.

People can be fooled for a while, but not forever.

Originally Posted by Joe 90

Serious question though, who could replace him?

Sunak and Truss are the current favourites. Both lightweights and or inexperienced. Wouldn’t be the first time that the party shot itself in both feet.

My question would be, who do you want to see running the country? Johnson, Starmer, Truss, Sunak or the media?

Boris has surrounded himself with sycophants, and Starmer has his own problems, without assuming the poisoned chalice that Boris holds by default.

Originally Posted by Troy

People can be fooled for a while, but not forever.

Us merkins have a quote about this.

“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”


― Abraham Lincoln

Originally Posted by Switch

My question would be, who do you want to see running the country? Johnson, Starmer, Truss, Sunak or the media?

Boris has surrounded himself with sycophants, and Starmer has his own problems, without assuming the poisoned chalice that Boris holds by default.

The media got him in, and their brexit wish. Many have lost trust in their reporting and opinions.

Originally Posted by Troy

The media got him in, and their brexit wish. Many have lost trust in their reporting and opinions.

None of the above then?

^ Personally, I would like to see the Conservatives lose power. I think the idea of a low tax economy outside of the EU is a huge mistake, although the latter will be impossible to reverse in my lifetime.

Starmer is middle of the road Labour and would make a good leader but he is still carrying a lot of leftist baggage that needs to be removed. I think Liz Truss is the only Tory likely to sway the public from a disastrous election for the Tories.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Personally, I would like to see the Conservatives lose power. I think the idea of a low tax economy outside of the EU is a huge mistake, although the latter will be impossible to reverse in my lifetime.

Starmer is middle of the road Labour and would make a good leader but he is still carrying a lot of leftist baggage that needs to be removed. I think Liz Truss is the only Tory likely to sway the public from a disastrous election for the Tories.

I like Starmer, great QC and would make a great statesman in my opinion. The only thing with Starmer and Labour, is they come with their own loons like Angela Rayner.

^ the only thing with labour is their policies are pie in the sky and don't stand up to economic or any other reality.

Madness though it is, i think Boris will stay in.

I'll throw this out there though, if he does go it wouldn't surprise me if Gove turned up again for a go.

Only J R-M would be a worse choice than Gove to lead the Tory party. They have both caused more damage than they're worth and both are probable less popular than Covid.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Personally, I would like to see the Conservatives lose power. I think the idea of a low tax economy outside of the EU is a huge mistake, although the latter will be impossible to reverse in my lifetime.

Starmer is middle of the road Labour and would make a good leader but he is still carrying a lot of leftist baggage that needs to be removed. I think Liz Truss is the only Tory likely to sway the public from a disastrous election for the Tories.

Do you think that’s why Starmer neglected every chance Jonson gave him, and there have been plenty?

Originally Posted by Troy

Only J R-M would be a worse choice than Gove to lead the Tory party. They have both caused more damage than they're worth and both are probable less popular than Covid.

I didn't say he was a good candidate but we know through his past actions he had a hankering for the PM post.

The worrying thing for the Torys as has been mentioned is the paucity of any robust cerebral candidates, lately it all feels like cabinet are straight out of secondary school political debating classes, its no different in Labour or the other parties. The future ain't looking bright.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

I'll throw this out there though, if he does go it wouldn't surprise me if Gove turned up again for a go.

Do you mind?

I was eating lunch when I read that and came over quite unwell. I'm not saying you're wrong, it's just that this thread is already fairly gloomy and some things are simply too vile to contemplate without being psychologically prepared and supported by at least two large cocktails.

Some names are best not mentioned. Like the Scottish play, we should speak only of the Scottish member.

( Smiley added because I worry that some people don't get flippancy.)

^ sorry about that Shu but i can't hide from the painful truth.

Keir Starmer branded an ‘absolute hypocrite’ for drinking with staff during lockdown.

Revelation comes a day after the Labour leader accused Boris Johnson of ‘lying through his teeth’ over his involvement in No 10 gatherings

By
Harry Yorke,
WHITEHALL EDITOR
13 January 2022 • 8:57pm





Sir Keir was photographed having drinks with Labour Party staff in a constituency office in Durham last May

Labour is facing its own “booze row” after Conservative figures pointed out that Sir Keir Starmer had been pictured drinking a beer when the country was still under Covid restrictions.

With Boris Johnson under mounting pressure over a series of gatherings in Downing Street, the Labour leader on Wednesday claimed that the public could see he was “lying through his teeth”.

Hitting back on Thursday, a senior Tory pointed out that Sir Keir had himself been photographed drinking with a number of party staff in a constituency office in Durham last May.

The image, which was taken several days before the Hartlepool by-election, was captured through the window of the building and showed Sir Keir standing close to two other people while another pair congregated in the background.


The country was at that time in step two of the roadmap out of the third lockdown, with indoor mixing between different households prohibited except in work scenarios.



Hospitality venues were also closed indoors, with outdoor groups limited to six people or two households and required to be seated to be served food and drink.

“Sir Keir has spent the past two months criticising people for doing the exact same thing he's been doing himself,” the source said. “He is an absolute hypocrite.”

Mr Johnson also highlighted the incident last month during a row over the party-gate allegations with Sir Keir at Prime Minister's Questions, stating: “{Sir Keir] might explain why there are pictures of him quaffing beer - we have not heard him do so.”

Approached for comment, a Labour spokesman pointed back to the party’s previous statement, in which it insisted no rules had been broken.


“Keir was in the workplace, meeting a local MP in her constituency office and participating in an online Labour Party event,” the statement from the time said. “They paused for dinner as the meeting was during the evening.”

It came as Wes Streeting, the shadow health secretary, on Thursday ramped up the party’s attacks on Mr Johnson, claiming that he is “not fit to lick the boots of NHS staff in this country”.

The testy exchange came after Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, accused Mr Streeting of not thanking the NHS for the booster rollout.

Responding to the claim, Mr Streeting told the Commons: “I am not sure whether that is in order, but what I did say from a sedentary position was the Prime Minister is not fit to lick the boots of NHS staff in this country.”

Keir Starmer branded an ‘absolute hypocrite’ for drinking with staff during lockdown

and on and on it goes.

will be interesting to see if the media mutt pack deal with this story with the same amount of self righteous zeal as they are doing with the boris party one.

the whole thing is madness.

700 days of lockdowns and politicians are being crucified for spending 25 minutes at work gatherings.

meanwhile a labour politician has been found to have trousered a quarter of a million quid donation from a chinese spy.

You silly old befuddled geriatric, BoJo was at a fucking party of 60 staff and sycophants getting falling down pissed in his own back garden whereas Starmer was in his office working with staff and necking a swiftie while doing so.
You can smell the fear while Brexitories shit themselves as their train to nowhere hits the buffers and the engine driver slinks off into a well deserved oblivion.

Eat it up Tax, Truss the Shagger is next in the frame and she's an avowed Remainer.

Oh, and how many millions have the Brexitory sycophants, shills and cronies trousered from illegal Tory Covid contracts, you stupid whippet-fucking Northern tyke.

oh jesus. it lives.

i though they put you out of your misery, disconnected the colostomy bag and turned your oxygen off months ago.

Originally Posted by taxexile

oh jesus. it lives.

Was wondering the same..

72 year old foreign man fell to death from Pattaya condo | Thaiger

Originally Posted by taxexile

oh jesus. it lives.

i though they put you out of your misery, disconnected the colostomy bag and turned your oxygen off months ago.

He's enjoying the zephyrs whistling round his saggy ball sack, perched on his PVC chair as he sips MonteClare whistfully scrolling back 4 years to the email that gave hope he'd finally sold his Pattaya albatross and could move back to bangers.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

He's enjoying the zephyrs whistling round his saggy ball sack, perched on his PVC chair as he sips MonteClare whistfully scrolling back 4 years to the email that gave hope he'd finally sold his Pattaya albatross and could move back to bangers.

He used to live in BKK too ? Haha