Thread: Prime Minister Boris Johnson

Originally Posted by cyrille

Making money.

It's all these people care about.

In fairness, his words aren't as scary as Trumps determination to get back to business within days.

At least Johnson's rank stupidity was before the event.

And yes, I'm afraid it's true that the bar for effective leadership in the west actually is set that low.

Trump getting another term will mean the trench needs to be dug even deeper.

Ugh ! Unfortunately all true...

The greatest tragedy of this epidemic is that those responsible for its spread in the US and the UK are not dead.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The greatest tragedy of this epidemic is that those responsible for its spread in the US and the UK are not dead.

You mean all the Chinese people that spread this disease as well? Should all the people that kept stum in China die?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The greatest tragedy of this epidemic is that those responsible for its spread in the US and the UK are not dead.

The current UK leadership is taking well found advice from scientific and medical specialists, then formulating a strategy, based on resources available to the government.
What would you have him do? Follow the example of Trump, or Prayuth?

You knowledge is limited to political expediency and selfish desires. Nothing to do with understanding the problem at hand.

The EU had a wonderful opportunity to demonstrate goodwill and faith in their much espoused beliefs. What did they do? They ran away crying.

I have no ill wishes for you or your stupidity. I don’t wish you dead. I do wish you would quit with the unnecessary repetition of selfish wishes for those who are much better placed, and capable of decision making than you are.

Originally Posted by Neverna

The speech wasn't about the virus

yes, you're right. mea culpa.

i should have posted....."i encourage everyone to watch this portion of a february 3rd speech on trade when johnson addresses the virus.


moving on...

why is the UK death rate from covid more than double what it is in the republic of ireland?

“As of Saturday 11 April, there have been 6.5 deaths per 100,000 people in Ireland. There have been 14.81 deaths per 100,000 people in the UK.”

It’s clear that you have little understanding of either country. Your knowledge of statistical methodology and reporting is even more woeful.
Try the USA for size. You might have better luck there. Snigger

Can someone explain the relationship of population density in relation to transmission and deaths, also the population demographic differences whilst you are at it. Reach seems to think all countries are the same - i'm sure he could get there if for one moment he thought about New York vs other states. Bit desperate today.

Some more death rates per 100,000:

New York (55), Spain (40), Belgium (36), Italy (35), New Jersey (32), France (23) and Louisiana (22)

Why is the death rate from covid in Italy, Spain and Belgium more than double what it is in the UK?
Why is the death rate from covid in New York more than three times what it is in the UK?
Why is the death rate in the USA more than the death rate in Ireland?

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Can someone explain the relationship of population density in relation to transmission and deaths, also the population demographic differences whilst you are at it.

Urbanisation versus rurality: 83% urban for UK, 63% for Ireland. In other words, a greater proportion of people in the UK live in towns or cities, which may contribute to the spread of a disease.

Age: older people are known to be at greater risk of death from Covid-19. In the UK 18% of the population is aged 65 or older, compared with only 13% in Ireland.


Experts divided over comparison of UK and Ireland's coronavirus records

i hope borish the clown enjoyed his 12 day vacation in february....never mind those 5 Cobra emergency meetings he blew off.....i'm sure he felt it was important for him to spend 12 days lounging in the country side with his girlfriend.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Y'know, I do believe he was being sarcastic, Nev.

Who was being sarcastic?

Whose post did you quote asking for details?

Heavy night last night?

Originally Posted by cyrille

Whose post did you quote asking for details?

NamPikToot, and I do not believe he was being sarcastic. I'll wait for him to confirm or deny.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Heavy night last night?

Nope. I am not one of TD's alcoholics or heavy drinkers. I cannot remember the last time I was drunk or had a heavy night of drinking. It was probably more than a decade ago.

Nope i wasn't being sarcastic Nev, its a major determinant in transmission and deaths. It seems Reachy & Syb are desperate for a little victory ..of any kind today.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Nope i wasn't being sarcastic Nev, its a major determinant in transmission and deaths

You're aware that population density is a major determinant in transmission and deaths, but you weren't being sarcastic when you asked someone to explain the relationship between population density and deaths?

Yeah, that's really convincing.

If you were unable to ascertain why people being closer together would increase transmission then you clearly have density issues of your own.

Writer and researcher Dr Elaine Doyle penned a series of tweets comparing the situations in the UK and Ireland, noting that both countries had similar numbers of intensive care beds per 100,000 people before the crisis began.

But, she wrote, “as of Saturday 11 April, there have been 6.5 deaths per 100,000 people in Ireland. There have been 14.81 deaths per 100,000 people in the UK.” Doyle went on to suggest that the difference in the way the pandemic is progressing in the two countries is that Ireland took stronger action sooner.

“While Boris [Johnson] was telling the British people to wash their hands, our taoiseach was closing the schools. While Cheltenham was going ahead, and over 250,000 people were gathering in what would have been a massive super-spreader event, Ireland had cancelled St Patrick’s Day,” she wrote, adding that watching British media was “like living in bizarro-world” compared with the messages on Irish TV news.

Originally Posted by cyrille

“While Boris [Johnson] was telling the British people to wash their hands, our taoiseach was closing the schools.

yet cuck will only pathetically admit that the response was 'muddled'.


and let's not forget the borish the clown was also advocating for 'herd immunity'....and if the fat fucker didn't receive the extraordinary care afforded the PM, covid likely would have killed him.

he's the poster child for covidiocy.

Originally Posted by raycarey

yet cuck will only pathetically admit that the response was 'muddled'.


and let's not forget the borish the clown was also advocating for 'herd immunity'....and if the fat fucker didn't receive the extraordinary care afforded the PM, covid likely would have killed him.

he's the poster child for covidiocy.

Do you personally not understand the difference in population density and higher infection rates, or do you think your rather bland statements are sufficient as answers?

There is probably no denser area of population than HK which has suffered a death rate of 4 in a total of 2,000 odd cases.

They practised self isolation immediately without the need for legal sanction and from day 1 donned masks and slapped on the hand gel before gaining entry anywhere.

The first wave of transmission evaporated a month ago but they are now experiencing their second wave of infections from returning folk resident in Europe and the US.

Seems a fairly forgone conclusion that masks worn in any enclosed space and hand gel slapped on the moment you touch anywhere public is the way to go.

Needless to say, the UK under the Tory Orc government this lesson has yet to be understood.

Sometimes, scientists know shit.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Sometimes, scientists know shit.

true,

and sadly sometimes voters need to learn the hard way that elections can have dire consequences when boisterous, incompetent showmen are put into office.

scientists have different opinions, and they only focus on their shit, not everything

Science alone can't dictate what our course of actions should be,

no more than God and the religious loons should,

SA, you can't take verbatim what HK officials are saying, no more you should believe in all the official numbers from China or even the UK

the real stats are much higher,

yet, who cares, we are not in control, so knowing the exact numbers is not doing us any favor anyhow

we weren't prepared for that shit, and it hit the fan while we were standing there right in front of it

HK have been sensitised to mainland PRC shit, courtesy of Sars etc, similar to Taiwan, and so one whiff of this new Sars bug and your typical HKSAR resident pulled up the drawbridge, donned his mask and washed his hands in gel from day one.
I know a family of them who are currently here in LoS in their holiday home and they confirmed that the people needed no law to get them to quarantine etc., the regime was the default protocol everyone understood.
The British experience is the opposite end of the spectrum with a bovine population oblivious to pretty much everything outside of their parochial little world, clad in their Brexit blinkers, and led like sheep into a complacent world of stultifying ignorance by a negligent and doctrinally myopic government of the lazy, the sycophantic and the dull brained.

HK has 4 deaths, the UK 15,000.

Only an idiot could ignore the obvious.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

HK have been sensitised to mainland PRC shit, courtesy of Sars etc, similar to Taiwan, and so one whiff of this new Sars bug and your typical HKSAR resident pulled up the drawbridge, donned his mask and washed his hands in gel from day one.
I know a family of them who are currently here in LoS in their holiday home and they confirmed that the people needed no law to get them to quarantine etc., the regime was the default protocol everyone understood.
The British experience is the opposite end of the spectrum with a bovine population oblivious to pretty much everything outside of their parochial little world, clad in their Brexit blinkers, and led like sheep into a complacent world of stultifying ignorance by a negligent and doctrinally myopic government of the lazy, the sycophantic and the dull brained.

HK has 4 deaths, the UK 15,000.

Only an idiot could ignore the obvious.

In case it escaped your notice, Hong Kong and Taiwan are geographically, and politically connected to mainland China. Thus, they have experience of a multitude of transgressions and flawed reporting. No wonder they are so compliant.

Should we also blame UK for the response of commonwealth nations, simply because they were colonized a few centuries ago.

Geography, history and politics are not your strong suit are they, you bitter and twisted old fool?