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    The NHS has been undermined by civil service reclalctrance, not by governments. Insisting on excess layers of administrators starves the hospitals of front line staff and any reasonable budget for medical equipment.
    That.

    The nhs is an inefficient and blundering behemoth. The efforts of the dedicated front line workers stymied time after time by the layer upon layer of recalcitrant and overpaid management that purposely delay, hold up and hinder purely in order to protect their own little mini fiefdoms and ultimately prevent government policy and the needs of the clinicians being implemented.

    The problem is not underfunding, the problem is the wastage of adequate funding by management and its total lack of accountability.

    And that goes for the civil servant in the department of health too.

    I worked in the NHS for many years, under both tory and labour governments. Wasted many hours attenending family practitioner committee meetings and listening to the bleatings of the ashen faced jobsworths as they denied us the facilities to do our jobs properly. Nothing to do with money, all to do with face, bloody mindedness and the wielding of power. The patients come last, thanks to the pen pushers.

    The actions of government, both tory and labour are honourable. The actions of the middlemen that lie between whitehall and the coalface, less so.

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    Before the shakeup leading sole practitioners to cash up and sell out to the big chains, British dentists were raking it in, screwing the tax payer, the NHS, the ordinary Joe, from grandparents to children, earning six figure annual incomes for decades while the nation's teeth literally rotted in its head. Britain had, and still has, the worst reputation for poor teeth not least because greedy grasping dental practitioners salted away their ill-gotten gains rather than investing their huge profits in surgeries offering a better customer care experience to their victims. Vultures the lot of 'em, they creamed it for years defrauding the NHS and ripping off the patient, playing both ends against the middle. No wonder it became known as the golden honeypot attracting fellow vultures from around the globe eager to get their snouts in the trough the Brit tooth puller had pillaged for years.

    Yep, all the fault of those imaginary civil servants sitting on imaginary committees earning not very imaginary salaries of little more than the average wage.

    British dentists were the pits for years but once the EU got into its stride folk realised the service elsewhere, in France, Czech Republic, Germany etc was miles better and a fraction of the price.

    No wonder Tax was Taxexile.

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    a somewhat ill informed and vindictive rant there SA. worthy or piers morgan or the daily mail.

    the few bad apples in any profession will always make the headlines and attract opprobrium, whilst the dedicated practitioners (the majority) will work away quietly, unnoticed and be taken for granted.

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    Tax, both you and I know very well the huge sums made by dentists throughout the 1990s and Noughties, in every town, city and gilded middle class burgh earning themselves well in excess of £250,000 a year exploiting the state and tax payer with rapacious abandon.
    I knew of at least three who were millionaires and I have to say in each case they were all somewhat prickly, right wing eccentrics who favoured extreme measures to resolve social issues and abuses that might have irked them personally as they surveyed their retirement from their ivory towers.
    Indeed, I made it my mission whenever I encountered one particular chap in my local pub to adopt a contrary view to whichever he might express in his often splenetic vituperation. I could never quite reconcile this apparent rancour when he had pretty much everything a man could want or need but in the end I put it down to the realisation looking into the maw of his fellow man was perhaps not a life well spent. He had a nasty side too which was perhaps easier to rationalise as a not unreasonable response to the fact most folk hated the prospect of having to see him - must eat at one's soul after a while.

    What say you, Tax? In the end, dentistry turns you into a miserable, curmudgeonly, irascible old bastard or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Tax, both you and I know very well the huge sums made by dentists throughout the 1990s and Noughties, in every town, city and gilded middle class burgh earning themselves well in excess of £250,000 a year exploiting the state and tax payer with rapacious abandon.
    I knew of at least three who were millionaires and I have to say in each case they were all somewhat prickly, right wing eccentrics who favoured extreme measures to resolve social issues and abuses that might have irked them personally as they surveyed their retirement from their ivory towers.
    Indeed, I made it my mission whenever I encountered one particular chap in my local pub to adopt a contrary view to whichever he might express in his often splenetic vituperation. I could never quite reconcile this apparent rancour when he had pretty much everything a man could want or need but in the end I put it down to the realisation looking into the maw of his fellow man was perhaps not a life well spent. He had a nasty side too which was perhaps easier to rationalise as a not unreasonable response to the fact most folk hated the prospect of having to see him - must eat at one's soul after a while.

    What say you, Tax? In the end, dentistry turns you into a miserable, curmudgeonly, irascible old bastard or not?
    Such personal jealousy is most unbecoming, but it explains your style to a T. You clearly missed out on your bonus, but made sure others never got theirs.
    I note you have expressed your deep regret that the PM has recovered. Should we wish death on you? Oh if only you were wasting a good skin, but you’re not.

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    Keep reading Chas, you might learn something.

    Apropos the Clown, death would have been the making of him.

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    No martyrdom for the body constructed of an old faux leather posing pouch and no remaining teeth.

    Your application to repatriate with you wingman was rejected by the same government you used to work for. The probity issues raised by your former HR department must have been quite serious. Did you admit that reasoning to your wingman, or just bluff and bluster, like you normally do on here?

    Trust issues and lack of dentistry apart, I hope you survive, enabling the superior Thai to abuse you in your penury.

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    Are you drinking those "fish bowl" cocktails they serve up to bogan antipodeans? Is that it?

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    What say you, Tax? In the end, dentistry turns you into a miserable, curmudgeonly, irascible old bastard or not?
    not at all.

    ones virtual personality does not always match ones personality in the real world, and i have no sleepless nights over my professionalism as a dentist. for me it paid the bills and little else. mostly NHS, with some very enjoyable private practice when i could develop advanced skills and use techniques and treatments not available under the nhs scheme. it was only fantastic luck, and it was just pure luck, not acumen, with 2 property investments, that enabled me to retire very early...... with all taxes paid btw.

    as far as dentistry goes, it is the same as any job or profession where the punter is usually ignorant of the problems afflicting them. tradespeople, private doctors, financial advisors, the customers are ripe for exploitation, and there will always be a few who take advantage of that fact. couple that with a ridiculous piecework payment system in dentistry that encouraged intervention where prevention (for which there is no remuneration) would have been more appropriate and bobs your uncle. some saw it as a gravy train. but all dentists were continually audited and compliance breaches were investigated and punished with all the rigour that the often resentful bureaucratic pen pushing overlords could muster, and often the media had a field day over it.

    i came across one or two. with a liking for fast cars, blinged up wives, school fees, huge mortgages and expensive divorces (once the missus caught them slipping their nurse a crafty length on the chair at 6pm) and all the other trappings of the "loadsamoney" lifestyle of the day. but once the investigators got their claws into them, they were destroyed. bankrupted, struck off and in some cases imprisoned too. but they were the exception and not the rule. one audit i was subjected to involved the examination of 40 patients pulled at random from my list. after weeks of supplying them with paperwork and till receipts they found that i ( my receptionist actually) had overcharged one patient the princely sum of 2p and i was instructed to reimburse the patient forthwith. they know full well from prescribing patterns and the dentists claims for reimbursement exactly who is screwing the system, but political correctness demanded that extreme auditing and investigations were pulled out of a hat, rather than targeting the obvious miscreants.


    prickly, right wing eccentrics who favoured extreme measures to resolve social issues
    and if they would have had their way, as opposed to the socialist " its never the criminals fault, so lets blame the millionaires for every ill that afflicts society" way of looking at things, then there would undoubtedly be fewer "social issues" siphoning off resources and making life so unpleasant for the law abiding these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Such personal jealousy is most unbecoming, but it explains your style to a T. You clearly missed out on your bonus, but made sure others never got theirs.
    I note you have expressed your deep regret that the PM has recovered. Should we wish death on you? Oh if only you were wasting a good skin, but you’re not.
    Sit this one out mate. There are going to be few battles as enjoyable as this clash of two embittered individuals.

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    Happy Easter!

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    The fact Bojo is disliked by the pusilanimous Pattaya public purse parasite ought to be qualification enough for the job.

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    Thing with Sausages is he constantly bleats and whinges but offers no workable suggestions, much like he probably did all the time he spent sat down getting paid to process forms and nod sagely at his master leeches before they popped off for a lunch.

    He has yet to provide a shred of evidence that he is any better than the very people he slates, actually that's wrong, the fact he's backed himself into the predicament he has found himself in for the past decade and a half strongly suggests he's a raving idiot who's spent his time on an Open University English Lit course.

    Poor chap.

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    Quite pitiful really that you actually think, to date, there has been no conclusive evidence of your innate inferiority and lumpen, knuckle-dragging boorishness adduced herein when in truth even the briefest scrutiny of your posting history confirms the very obvious fact you are indeed an ill-educated and somewhat tediously predictable oaf.

    Which is absolutely fine by me, I'm no snob, folk are what they are and generally can't help themselves, not least because they lack the insight to acknowledge their inadequacies. However, what irritates me is that rather than remain silent and knowing their place they get up on their hind legs and presume to offer opinions on subjects far beyond their ken and often rely for inspiration on their ghastly ignorance and innate bigotry born out of an ingrained prejudice so typical of the loutish stupid and deluded, as you yourself have so vividly illustrated, Numfuktwat.

    Brexit was of course the product of this demographic which in turn midwifed the current bastardisation of the Tory party now led by a narcissistic clown spouting an incoherent doctrine of piffle-waffle vacillation that has, to date, killed over 14,000 victims.

    Sadly, The Clown did not die.
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    ^ I hear there are going to be a lot of cheap properties in Spain...provided they accept your bloke that is. The list is getting longer.

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    i hear the "BIL" has a lot of chores for you to complete on your next yearly trip to thailand....providing the government allows arriving flights that is.
    The list is getting longer.


    and back on topic....

    now that bojo the clown is out of ICU....are his bastards that he doesn't publicly acknowledge permitted to visit him....or is that still not allowed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    ^
    i hear the "BIL" has a lot of chores for you to complete on your next yearly trip to thailand....providing the government allows arriving flights that is.
    The list is getting longer.


    and back on topic....

    now that bojo the clown is out of ICU....are his bastards that he doesn't publicly acknowledge permitted to visit him....or is that still not allowed?
    Of course your own country has no problems on which you can pontificate pointlessly. Put your own house in order before offering poorly informed critique on others. Dolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Of course your own country has no problems
    errr....yeah....going to have to do better than that lame straw man.


    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Put your own house in order before offering poorly informed critique on others.
    care to guess how many posts you've made on the US 2020 election thread....or the president trump thread....or the jared kushner thread....etc....



    now then, back to borish the clown.....

    fair to question whether or not he should be held criminally responsible for his actions (or lack thereof) in february.


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    I wouldn't have expected Switch and Ray to have words . . . Damn, 'politics' really is divisive

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    fair to question whether or not he should be held criminally responsible for his actions (or lack thereof) in february.
    His shaking hands diatribe? Yup. Not only is he an idiot, he is also a massively boorish arse

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    His shaking hands diatribe?
    that was just boorishly arrogant.

    what's more alarming is that he skipped several national crisis committee meetings in february so he could take a 12 day holiday in the country side with his girlfriend..... and cavalierly told the UK public that the risk of the virus was low...etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I wouldn't have expected Switch and Ray to have words . . .
    Yeah, you were surprised that he and I were at loggerheads too.

    Then you actually apologised for finding an obviously antagonistic, ill informed and obnoxious post of his to be antagonistic, ill informed and obnoxious.

    I'm not sure you've fully come to terms with his character on here.

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    TD software doesn't allow me to post this video directly, but i encourage people to click through and view it.....it's only 55 seconds long.

    johnson giving a speech on 3rd of february about the virus.


    https://twitter.com/EighthOfAMile_/s...67979247751168

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    Making money.

    It's all these people care about.

    In fairness, his words aren't as scary as Trumps determination to get back to business within days.

    At least Johnson's rank stupidity was before the event.

    And yes, I'm afraid it's true that the bar for effective leadership in the west actually is set that low.

    Trump getting another term will mean the trench needs to be dug even deeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    In fairness, his words aren't as scary as Trumps determination to get back to business within days.
    trump wanted to open everything up a week ago because it was easter...not because of the data...but because of the date.

    it's reckless insanity on both sides of the atlantic.

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