Thread: Prime Minister Boris Johnson

Originally Posted by Switch

you are PONTI.

No idea what you’re on about, nor do I care - you dumb pudgy cocksucker.

Other than your penchant for posting Guardian links almost exclusively, you are PONTI.

Yet again, other than your false personal assumptions, you are struggling to be relevant.

Originally Posted by cyrille

No idea what you’re on about, nor do I care - you dumb pudgy cocksucker.

Please keep up with the personal comments. I’m sure it increases your importance and levels of relevance.

At least in your own mind anyway.

Umm yeah…that’s a real well reasoned conclusion there, d.p.c.

And not at all reeking of hypocrisy from a poster incapable of sticking to any of the issues I post about, instead going for ad hom e-v-e-r-y time.

to any of the issues I post about,

dont make me laugh.

other than your obsession with boris, you never post about any issues.

all you do is insult and pick fights with any poster that dares to express a different point of view to yours.

you need to wind your brass neck in.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Umm yeah…that’s a real well reasoned conclusion there, d.p.c.

And not at all reeking of hypocrisy from a poster incapable of sticking to any of the issues I post about, instead going for ad hom e-v-e-r-y time.

What other conclusion could possibly be drawn regarding an insulting post? Is it because you lack imagination, or you simply prefer not to answer.
You prefer not to answer, because you do not have any answer, other than insults and a rather specious claim to ad hom?
Basically any option other than a genuine attempt to avoid engagement and debate?

Of course, if you do deign to respond it will be with further insults or obfuscation. Despite you highly acclaimed career in Saudi, what else can you offer any poster on here. In short old boy, your posting style assumes a superior attitude, but there is only your word to back that up.

Is it possible that you are a self indulgent fraud, with nothing to show in real terms. Have you ever made a cogent post without an attempt at slagging someone off?

Of course not. That might reveal your true standing.

Good to see the forum opening up, and views being heard.

Originally Posted by Switch

What other conclusion could possibly be drawn regarding an insulting post? Is it because you lack imagination, or you simply prefer not to answer.
You prefer not to answer, because you do not have any answer, other than insults and a rather specious claim to ad hom?
Basically any option other than a genuine attempt to avoid engagement and debate?

Of course, if you do deign to respond it will be with further insults or obfuscation. Despite you highly acclaimed career in Saudi, what else can you offer any poster on here. In short old boy, your posting style assumes a superior attitude, but there is only your word to back that up.

Is it possible that you are a self indulgent fraud, with nothing to show in real terms. Have you ever made a cogent post without an attempt at slagging someone off?

Of course not. That might reveal your true standing.

wtf are you on about?

oh…me.

QED.

and thicko’s glad speakers is opening up…and becoming an extension of the dog house.

Squirrel, Some things in Life don't always go the way you want them to go, get a life and let go of whatever is eating you up inside.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Well you managed to sink far lower than the pathetically lame standard of your usual posts there.

Yet he could never reach your depths, Sybill . . . reflect on that

Originally Posted by cyrille

wtf are you on about?

oh…me.

QED.

and thicko’s glad speakers is opening up…and becoming an extension of the dog house.

You know very well what I am on about, yet you choose as usual, to deploy your supercilious attitude and get all self righteous about it, enabling you to ignore others who you seem to think are beneath you.

Don’t kid yourself that the sniping, toothless attack dog from Chaing Mai is better than the rest of us, because he is not. Stop looking down your nose at other members and try to be a little more gracious occasionally.

'Like a clown’: what other countries thought of Boris Johnson at Cop26

PM could not resist wheeling out the usual jokes and antics at crucial summit, but the laughs never came


Boris Johnson (second from left) and Sir David Attenborough ( left) at the opening ceremony of Cop26 on Monday.

It was one of the defining images from Cop26.


Seated next to Boris Johnson on Monday and wearing a mask was 95-year-old David Attenborough. The prime minister, however, was maskless. At one point, Johnson seemed to have nodded off.

On stage and in front of 120 world leaders, the contrast between the two men was striking. The naturalist was sombre and serious. There was a “desperate hope” we might still avoid disaster, Attenborough said in Glasgow, in the most memorable phrase of the week. Joe Biden was among those to give him a standing ovation.


Johnson sought to strike a similarly elevated tone. There were serious moments in his speech: he mentioned a responsibility to future generations, for example, and to “children not yet born”.


But overall the prime minister appeared to rely on the jokes and verbal antics that have served him well in the past. With the world watching on the most urgent issue of the age, he sought to mix it up – part statesman, part standup.


Labour said his speech seemed thrown together at the last moment. To many others, his quips seemed strangely unsuited to the grave occasion and to his non-British audience.


He began by likening the climate crisis to James Bond wrestling with a ticking bomb. “It’s one minute to midnight on that Doomsday Clock and we need to act now,” he declared. (Days before, at the G20 summit in Rome, he had used football for his analogies – describing humanity as “5-1 down at half time”.)


Johnson’s Cop26 address was met with stony silence. The prime minister left pauses for laughs. They never came.

Outside the hall, what did other countries make of a British leader who had once written sceptically about the climate emergency? Was his new evangelism for real, many wondered, or merely an act by someone adept at persuading people he holds certain beliefs?


Abroad, few were convinced. In Spain, El País noted Johnson appeared to have undergone something of a Damascene conversion to environmentalism since the days when “as a provocative political columnist for the Daily Telegraph, he flirted with a rather loutish kind of climate change denialism”.


His attempts to stress the importance of the meeting were undercut by a familiar idiosyncrasy, it said. “He wanted to appear ‘cautiously optimistic’, and yet he couldn’t avoid slipping into his usual over-the-top rhetoric,” the paper reported.


Others felt his puns got lost in translation. Bas Eickhout, a long-serving Dutch Green MEP, observed: “He is regarded a bit like a clown. It’s clear that this is his style and that is certainly now what people are used to. Some of the jokes are quite domestic orientated for a domestic audience.”


Asked about Johnson’s leadership, one EU official laughed, but offered a diplomatic take. “It’s not completely my taste to be honest,” the person said, sidestepping to praise the UK diplomatic machine. “One thing that we profit from is that the UK still has one of the best foreign services in the world. It’s pretty difficult to break that up and they [Downing Street] haven’t got round to it yet.”


The French media was also unimpressed, at a time when Paris and London are involving in a bitter spat over fishing. Le Point said Johnson had indulged in his “usual humorous banter”. “Wide-eyed, we observe Johnson’s smirk; his face recalls that of a dad cracking one of his favourite jokes,” it said.

Libération saw “chaotic organisation” on show at the summit; Le Monde “apparent nonchalance” from the British side. “He seems a lot more interested in re-litigating Brexit with Brussels than with convincing global leaders to raise their CO2 reduction targets,” the paper wrote.


Germany’s Der Spiegel recalled the prime minister’s climate speech in September to the UN general assembly when – bizarrely – he referenced Kermit the frog. “When it comes to using zany metaphors to underline his message, Johnson has form,” Spiegel said.


For his part, Johnson insists his conviction that global heating poses an existential threat is real. Asked by the Guardian why he had become a believer, Johnson said he received a briefing from government scientists soon after becoming prime minister. It featured terrifying data and graphs, he recalled. Johnson’s wife, Carrie, probably also played a role in changing his mind, or so everyone around him thinks.


Yet doubts over Johnson’s sincerity remain. He flew to Rome and then on to Glasgow in a luxurious chartered plane painted with “United Kingdom” and a union flag. The jet is used by Johnson and some royals for shorter trips. But why not travel back to London from Cop26 by train, a comfortable journey of four and a half hours? This was not possible, No 10 said, because of “time restraints”.


On Thursday, the reason for Johnson’s haste became clear. The Mirror reported Johnson had flown back to London to attend a reunion of Daily Telegraph journalists at the men-only Garrick Club. He was pictured emerging from a dinner with Charles Moore, his old boss, whom Johnson recently made a Tory peer.


Lord Moore has said there is no proof the planet faces a “climate emergency” and accuses activists of “project fear”.


Anneliese Dodds, the Labour party chair, said Johnson was guilty of “staggering hypocrisy”. The charge sheet also includes reducing taxes on domestic passenger flights in last week’s budget and equivocating on whether a controversial new coalmine should be built in Cumbria, at the same time as calling on China, the US, Australia and others to phase out coal production.


It has left many environmentalists with a fear that Johnson has so far failed to heed his own apocalyptic rhetoric, even if he now grasps the problem.


“We hope world leaders listen to Johnson’s warnings. But maybe he needs to listen to them himself,” Greenpeace’s Rebecca Newsom said.

‘Like a clown’: what other countries thought of Boris Johnson at Cop26 | Cop26 | The Guardian

^Almost forgot about that option. When you run out of ideas, just quote a lengthy diatribe from your favourite organ, while eschewing their penchant for hair shirts and recycled underwear.

you want sleaze cyrille? , here is some real sleaze for you, not the schoolbay trousering of a few quid sleaze, but some real meat and potato sleaze, psycho sleaze, hate sleaze.

Labour MP Claudia Webbe could be jailed after conviction for harassing partner’s ex-girlfriend.

Former Labour MP, described by Jeremy Corbyn as of good character, threatened to carry out acid attack and send out naked pictures of victim

Jeremy Corbyn described the politician as a person of good character who was committed to the “administration of justice” in a character reference read out in court on Wednesday.

Webbe, who now sits as an independent for Leicester East, was found guilty of the charge after a court heard how she had threatened Michelle Merritt with acid and told her she would send naked pictures of her to her daughters.

The campaign began after Webbe became obsessively jealous of Ms Merritt’s relationship with her boyfriend, Lester Thomas, a scout with Chelsea Football Club.

Webbe, who received character references from Mr Corbyn, the former Labour leader, and fellow MP Diane Abbott, had claimed her phone calls had merely been intended to warn Ms Merritt not to break Covid rules by meeting her boyfriend during lockdown.

Claudia Webbe, the former Labour MP, has been expelled from the party and faces losing her seat after being given a 10-week suspended sentence for threatening her partner’s former girlfriend.

Webbe, 56, who now sits as an independent MP for Leicester East, was convicted of threatening Michelle Merritt with acid and telling her she would send naked pictures of her to her daughters.

At Westminster Magistrates’ Court on Thursday, Paul Goldspring, the chief magistrate, described her behaviour as "callous and intimidatory" and said she "showed little remorse or contrition". He told her she would have been jailed immediately were it not for her previous good character.

Mr Goldspring sentenced Webbe to a 10-week prison sentence, suspended for two years, and 200 hours of community service. She was also ordered to pay £1,000 in compensation to her victim and £2,000 in court costs, which she was permitted to pay over six months due to her "significant personal debt".

On Thursday night Webbe, who earns £81,000 a year in her role as an MP, insisted she was innocent and said she intended to appeal against the conviction.

Off Topic.

Start a thread about it, you creepy closeted weirdo.

^

Off Topic.

a perfect example of the lefty woke cancel culture you promote.

Like I said gramps - work out your frustrations with your life elsewhere.

Or maybe try ‘Dave’ and jerk off to Baywatch.

Hasselhoff was once a fine figure of a man, tbf.

Or maybe try ‘Dave’ and jerk off to Baywatch.

Hasselhoff was once a fine figure of a man, tbf.

no one is in the least bit interested in your projections, habits or fantasies.

years spent in the saudi classrooms with all those boys may have lined your pockets, but has done your mind no good at all.

An excellent piece on how Bojo's 'cakeism' has infected the whole government. The man is utterly bereft of integrity.

The dishonesty of Boris Johnson has finally infected the entire government | Jonathan Freedland | The Guardian


The dishonesty of Boris Johnson has finally infected the entire government

The personal dishonesty of the prime minister is serial and well documented. It’s the thread that has run through his career. It saw him fired from his first job, at the Times, for making up quotes, then saw him fired from the Tory frontbench for lying to his party leader – to say nothing of the anti-EU fabrications that made Boris Johnson’s name as Brussels correspondent of the Daily Telegraph.


But dishonesty is no longer merely the character flaw of one man. It has become the imprint of his party and this government.


Admittedly, the Conservatives’ collective dishonesty is less florid than Johnson’s individual variety. If you were being kind, you would call it intellectual dishonesty or, kinder still, magical thinking. Sometimes it takes the form of arguing two contradictory things at once; often it comes down to saying one thing and doing the exact opposite.


So we have a Tory government publicly committed to reducing carbon emissions, one that just last week wrapped up Cop26 in Glasgow, where it urged the world to pursue net zero. But this week that same government broke its promise to extend HS2 to Leeds and abandoned the pledged high-speed rail link between Leeds and Manchester. Passengers and freight that would have moved on clean, swift trains will instead be burning up petrol on the roads.


Indeed, buried deep in the government’s announcement was a telltale line. On page 23 of the new plan is the observation that the original scheme would have crossed various motorways 13 times: disruption to road users that, the document cheerfully notes, has now been avoided. Proof, says Richard Bowker, former head of the Strategic Rail Authority, that for this government the car is “still king”.


That came less than a month after Rishi Sunak gave a boost to domestic air travel – surely one of the very easiest things for a nation of Britain’s size to cut down on. In other words, the government tells us it is pursuing net zero, even as it nudges Britons away from trains and into cars and planes.


Of course, it was grimly predictable that it would be northern England that got shafted by Thursday’s announcement. The Conservatives’ breaching of the “red wall” in 2019 has let them pose as the party of working people, but their actions tell a different story.


You had to examine the small print, but look at the government’s social care reforms, details of which were announced this week. Those who have little will lose 75% of their assets to pay for care if they need it. Those with £500,000 in the bank will keep more than 75% of theirs. The Tories talk a good game to voters in Bishop Auckland or Blyth Valley, but it’s still Bucks and Berks they’re looking after.


The mother and father of these dishonesties remains Brexit, still the organising principle of this government and the adhesive that binds Johnson to his party. That project always rested on magical thinking – the belief that Britain could boost its economy by making trade with its nearest neighbours harder and more expensive – and it requires more and more such thinking to maintain the illusion. So you have a chancellor who simultaneously wants to shower red-wall seats with cash, cut taxes and reduce borrowing, all of it only possible with mighty economic growth – which is unachievable, thanks to an exit from the EU projected to drain 2.25% from our output by the end of 2022.


Brexit entails all kinds of such deceptions, the contradictions never admitted let alone confronted. David Frost was in Brussels today, for the latest round of apparently never-ending talks with the EU over Northern Ireland’s post-Brexit arrangements. For all the technical details, the problem has always been both simple and obvious. Once the UK had resolved to leave the single market and the customs union, there had to be a border somewhere. It could be on the island of Ireland; the government promised it would not do that. Or it could be down the Irish Sea; the government promised it would not do that either. It has tried to wish away that fundamental conundrum, hoping it might disappear in a puff of magician’s smoke. That was delusional, but it was also dishonest – to the people of Northern Ireland above all.


Wherever you look, this government is spinning similar fictions. It could be “global Britain” – evoking the long history of a free-trading nation at the very moment Britain slams the door on the largest free-trade bloc the world has ever known – or “levelling up”: slogans are the one commodity that’s never in short supply. But the government either does nothing to make those pledges real, or actively works against their fulfilment.


All of this is personified by Johnson himself, who has turned breaking his word into a vocation. But now it has become a collective trait. The government has adopted Johnson’s notorious attitude to cake – wanting to have it and to eat it – and made cakeism its defining creed. The Tories want both to look good on climate and withhold cash from the transport system. They want both to spend big and keep taxes low. They want both to leave the EU and keep Northern Ireland exactly as it was. They want both to hold the red wall and keep giving preferential treatment to their own blue-wall faithful.


If this were only magical thinking designed to deceive themselves, it would be bad enough. But the Tories are doing to the country what Johnson has done his whole life: making promises that cannot be kept and telling stories that are not true.

What red wall?

It must be frustrating for you, knowing that no amount of c&p guardian opinions can change the government.

Never mind, you can always vote for Starmer at the next election.

Politicians are massive tits, case closed.

The US had Trump . . . and the UK still has Boris.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

Politicians are massive tits, case closed.

Nah, that lets off utter morons like Boris.

Originally Posted by panama hat

The US had Trump . . . and the UK still has Boris.


Nah, that lets off utter morons like Boris.

Ok fine massive bellend then...but so is Corbyn. Ying Yang, you have to even up insults otherwise the world will implode; theory, Darwin, I Ching and shit