Thread: This is what makes America so great! Free speech

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Sure looks like they're swapping spit to me, dude!

It ain't and you knew it well but somehow you decided to play dumb in order to fool others like your fuckin western media.

BTW, worked in the ME a long time so I sorta got a clue...

Got a clue? Is this the best answer you could come up with?

Originally Posted by IsaanAlex

After I read the thread and see where, and under what circumstances it was left off, I will respond on that thread.

Oh ok... I won't hold my breath then.

Not sure why you need to see where the thread was left off either, the questions were addressed to you earlier in the thread and you never 'got around' to answering them (save, as already mentioned, for saying you would).

Post #92, pg7 FYI.

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Actually I've just checked again myself and, ironically enough, the thread leaves off with you stating you'll post something else. Later.

Let's see if we can isolate Isaan Alex's argument about the Holocaust never occurring here.

He DOES believe there is sufficient documentation and proof that Stalin sent 20 million to die in the Gulags.

He DOES believe there is sufficient documentation and proof that Pol Pot and Khmer Rouge killed 2 million Cambodians.

BUT he DOESN'T believe there is sufficient documentation and proof that Hilter and the Nazis killed 6 million jews.

Well, that's pretty clear where he stands.

Originally Posted by IsaanAlex

IA PS. Can you slow down, Ant. Where is the harm in me actually reading the thread before replying? It's obviously been awhile

Eh? You gave assurances you'd address it, not me. And here you are repeating some of the same arguments you've previously raised that are touched on in the questions posed to you.

So you'll have to forgive any 'impaitence' on my part, after all it has been well over a month.

^^ Easy enough to refute a straw man argument with simple yes or no as to each point.

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I won't bother refuting straw man arguments. I don't play that game.

Ant wrote:

So you'll have to forgive any 'impaitence' on my part, after all it has been well over a month.

Well pardon me, but some of us use this board and others to augment our lives; not to replace our lives.

I've been working up to 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, am in extremely poor health, and have a seriously disintegrating marital situation.

New thread perhaps?

Alex

^ Purely curious, but is it hatred of jews, or love of Germans that is shaping your view? Certainly it can't be for study of facts and overwhelming evidence.

Originally Posted by IsaanAlex

Well pardon me, but some of us use this board and others to augment our lives; not to replace our lives.

Ahh, that old chestnut! What was it you were just saying about strawman arguments?

I think it's only fair and decent that instead of repeating yourself on here you address the questions that have been previously posed to you relating to the same issue. The same questions you repeatedly stated you would address. Sheesh, anyone would think I've just demanded you climb Everast backwards!

I've been working up to 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, am in extremely poor health, and have a seriously disintegrating marital situation. New thread perhaps?

Sorry to hear that. But lets deal with the outstanding issues first shall we.

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Cheers!

Ahh, that old chestnut! What was it you were just saying about strawman arguments?

Oh jesus.

That's not even a straw man argument; it's an explanation...or an excuse.

However ones inclined to view it.

Catch you on the other thread, regarding the issue, as time and energy permits...

chinthee wrote:

Purely curious, but is it hatred of jews, or love of Germans that is shaping your view? Certainly it can't be for study of facts and overwhelming evidence.

You really have a way of putting things. Now I have to pick only one of your two choices to justify how my views on the issue have been shaped?

Another month off is starting to look good about now.

IA

Originally Posted by IsaanAlex

Catch you on the other thread, regarding the issue, as time and energy permits...

Like I said, I won't hold my breath.

Here's one tip though, divert the time and energy it takes you to repeat the same things into actually addressing the post that specifically addresses and answers them. Will give you a bit more credibility if nothing else.

Delaying responses, or ignoring questions and counterarguments is one of the tools of demagogues.

Well, his statement was wrong.
But you posting this pic to prove it, merely exposes your cultural ignorance and lack of coherent arguments.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Anyhow, the point of the whole exercise was to disprove that statement Ahmadjinawhackjob made that Iran does not have any gay folks. When the feculent western media catches onto pics like I posted, it just reinforces the notion that he's full of shit - as usual.

Anyone in their right mind knows that Ahmendinajad's statement on gays in Iran is complete fallacy.

However posting pictures like you did doesn't help somehow prove or support this, in fact if anything it undermines it.

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Damn! Stroller beat me to it!

Well, the Achmaditarod has exposed several huge flaws in his dogmatic reasoning. Homo-denial is just one. Holocaust denial is another, and, anyone who doesn't just come out and say, yes, it happened, but let's move on, is just looking stupid. It's much easier to say it happened, and then criticize the overuse and misuse of it as a crutch than to deny it happened or to be obtuse about it.

Really, for a guy who's supposed to be educated, I would think he would be smarter on world opinion. Similarly, his spouting that all the world has to accept a monotheastic view of the world is nonsense. Not everyone accepts his God. He didn't make any new friends in the west with his speech, but probably that wasn't his goal.

Originally Posted by stroller

Well, his statement was wrong.
But you posting this pic to prove it, merely exposes your cultural ignorance and lack of coherent arguments.

Give me a break...
My so-called 'curtural ignorance' - heh. I've probably spent more time in Muslim countries than most here so that statement is hogwash.
In terms of coherent argument? You are the last one to throw stones here Headmaster...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

My so-called 'curtural ignorance' - heh. I've probably spent more time in Muslim countries than most here so that statement is hogwash.

Then, presumably, you should've known better than to post those pictures. You should recognise that they undermine your point such as it were.

Everyone knows that the statement is utter tosh, all you've done is reduce yourself to the same level of 'debate'.

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Do you find them rather 'sensual' then?

...sorry - couldn't help myself

AntRoberson wrote:

Here's one tip though, divert the time and energy it takes you to repeat the same things into actually addressing the post that specifically addresses and answers them. Will give you a bit more credibility if nothing else.

*sigh*

Originally Posted by IsaanAlex

*sigh*

You're wasting time, Alex.

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Mind you, the American host didn't do himself any favours by being so rude to his guest. Honestly, no manners and no class, some people...

Yep invading the US embassy in 1979 was pretty classy!
As was holding hostages for 444 days.

Columbia University President Lee Bollinger excoriated Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday, going through a long list of documented actions and remarks by the firebrand Iranian leader and his government. Asked about widely documented government abuse of women and homosexuals in his country, Ahmadinejad said, "We don't have homosexuals" in Iran. "I don't know who told you we had it," he said.

He can anything he want's!

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Got a clue? Is this the best answer you could come up with?

Well, here's a reference you might want to check out re. the 'culture'?

" The Washington Post reports that, according to Iranian American scholars, "Persian culture has historically included the practice of powerful men who keep young boys for sex but are not considered gay." Moreover, "younger Iranian Americans [say] there is a gay culture in today's Iraq, although it is suppressed by Shiite authorities."

Emphasis mine...

Heh...deafening silence from the usual crowd...