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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    So the whole conspiracy just imploded.
    ...there's more...

    ‘We really are the cucks’: QAnon adrift after Trump ‘fails to ascend as God Emperor'

    Bob Brigham (Raw Story)
    January 20, 2021


    QAnon conspiracy theorists attend a Trump rally (Screen cap).

    Supporters of the unhinged QAnon conspiracy theories were soul searching on Wednesday after Joe Biden became president of the United States without being arrested in "the storm" allegedly predicted.

    "I'm the laughing stock of my family," one conspiracy theorist lamented.

    Vice News reported more under the headline, "Trump Fails to Ascend as God Emperor, Leaving Diehard Fans Adrift."

    "As new President Joseph R. Biden took his oath of office, his hand atop a massive family Bible, confusion, anger, and grief washed over some of the worst corners of the Internet," Vice reported. "Refugees from the QAnon conspiracy subreddit, now huddled together on a new website, took turns assuring each other that everything they were seeing was all part of the unfolding of the grand Plan they'd spent years breathlessly awaiting. 'I HAVE ZERO DOUBTS,' one wrote. But others weren't so sure. 'WTF?,' another wrote. 'He's being sworn in now.'"

    "In the weeks leading up to Biden's inauguration, the worst elements of Trump's coalition— Nazis, white supremacists, Q-mesmerized "patriots," Proud Boys, Telegram lurkers, and all-purpose far-right sh*tlords—managed to hold out hope.

    On one website for Trump fans banished from Reddit, TheDonald.win, many users had assured one another that not only would Biden never take office, but that Trump, naturally, would never leave it," Vice explained. "Instead, they claimed to each other—in a refrain that was once ironic and seemed less so all the time—that he would ascend to the role of 'God Emperor.'

    On the morning of January 20, QAnon fans urged each other to 'Enjoy the show,' dotting their posts with popcorn emojis, meant to symbolize all of them sitting back and watching Armageddon rain down on the Satanic cabal they'd been led to believe rules the world."

    "This is a bizarre, dangerous, and volatile moment for Trump's most impassioned and hateful fans. They have been forced to recognize that the glorious reckoning they dreamed of would not come to pass, that Trump would not and will not usher in either—take your pick—God's kingdom on earth or a white ethnostate. And in that moment, these people are vulnerable to any new bad idea that comes along," Vice noted.

    "One of the pinned tweets on a large QAnon forum reminds Q adherents that it's important to 'take care of your mental health today.' A great majority of the users on the site seem despondent and directionless. At least one group, the Proud Boys, has seized upon the void Trump's departure has left in his followers' lives," Vice reported. "On one of their official channels on Telegram they tell Trump fans 'here is hope. Not for Trump to become president, but there is hope for our future. Abandon the GOP. Embrace the ultranationalist 3rd position.'"

    Trump is also reportedly considering starting a new "Patriot Party" to compete against the GOP.
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    lots more on ParlerWatch


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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    lots more on ParlerWatch

    Ya gotta laugh
    Fucking planks.
    Speaking of which where's that geriatric bogon Terry?

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    I have to smile when I think of how efficiently that Thaksin or Duterte would have handled the QANON mob. Bodies would have littered the capitol like the trash they are. There is a time and a place for extrajudicial killings, and this event was surely one of them.

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    ...when are the QAnon true believer suicides? The Kool-Aid has been available for months...

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    . . . stocking up on covid-19 bleach as we speak

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    “Trump fooled us,” complained one Telegram commenter.
    They won't believe anyone else telling them this, they have to tell themselves. Let's hope this train of thought spreads like wildfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Let's hope this train of thought spreads like covid.
    ...ftfy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jools View Post
    I have to smile when I think of how efficiently that Thaksin or Duterte would have handled the QANON mob. Bodies would have littered the capitol like the trash they are. There is a time and a place for extrajudicial killings, and this event was surely one of them.
    Well, that's an optimistic look at reconciliation and a brighter tomorrow.

    Shame Biden didn't touch on it.


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    Can QAnon survive another ‘Great Disappointment’ on March 4? History suggests it might


    Thursday could be a big day. On March 4, Donald Trump will be triumphantly returned to power to help save the world from a shadowy syndicate of Satan-worshipping pedophiles – or at least that is what a small fraction of American citizens believe.

    But before you circle the date and dust off the MAGA hats, a note of caution: We have been here before. Adherents of the same conspiracy theory, QAnon, had previously marked Jan. 20, the day of Joe Biden’s inauguration, as the big day. As Biden ascended the steps of the Capitol to take the presidential oath of office, tens of thousands of adherents of QAnon were eagerly awaiting the imminent arrest and execution of Democratic politicians in a “storm” that would upend the social and political order. It didn’t happen.

    In the aftermath of this disappointment, some disillusioned QAnon followers left the fold. But as evidenced by the new date of March 4 – chosen because it was the day for presidential inaugurations until the 20th Amendment was adopted in 1933 – some hardliners claimed they had simply gotten the date wrong. When – or if – that date too passes without incident, a new date may emerge.

    It might be thought that enough failed predictions would eventually discredit a prophet. But as a philosopher of religion, I know history suggests a more complicated set of possibilities. Apocalyptic movements rarely simply dissolve when prophecies are seen to fail. Indeed, such crises have in the past presented believers with fertile opportunities to reinterpret prophecies. They have even strengthened movements, giving rise to new theories that attempt to explain the shortcomings of earlier ones.

    The Millerites

    This dynamic played out nearly 180 years ago with the Millerites, members of a 19th-century evangelical Christian movement who were part of an earlier “Great Awakening” in U.S. religious history.

    A Baptist preacher, William Miller drew on biblical texts and numerology to predict the imminent second coming of Christ. Although Miller did not initially claim to know the exact date, he and his followers offered various predictions. As each passed without incident, the Millerites redid the Biblical math to propose new dates, until finally the movement settled on Oct. 22, 1844.

    As the expected second advent drew near, many Millerites gave away their possessions in anticipation of Christ’s return.

    When Oct. 22 came and went without incident, the Millerites were left to reconstruct a worldview that acknowledged what came to be called the “Great Disappointment.”

    Miller’s followers concluded not that the Scriptures and numerology on which they had based their predictions were false, but simply that they had misunderstood their meaning. In one view, what the predictions foretold were not earthly events, but heavenly ones.

    Millerism did not collapse; rather, elements of it were central to the establishment of Seventh Day Adventism, a rapidly growing Protestant denomination that continues to look forward to Christ’s return.

    Crisis point

    Looking at how the Millerites dealt with their Great Disappointment gives an insight into how believers navigate what the philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre calls “epistemological crises.” These are moments when the way someone understands the world is thrown into question by events that don’t fit expectations.

    Epistemological crises are not unique to religion. Anyone who has experienced heartbreak in a relationship, or felt the rug pulled out from under them when unexpectedly fired by an employer, knows that they are a fact of life.

    Such a crisis undercuts a person’s ability to tell the kind of story about themselves that gives order and meaning to life. Left unresolved, it threatens one’s understanding of oneself and others.
    Yet, such crises don’t always prove insurmountable. MacIntyre writes, “When an epistemological crisis is resolved, it is by the construction of a new narrative, which enables the agent to understand both how he or she could intelligibly have held his or her original beliefs and how he or she could have been so drastically misled by them.”

    Sometimes the new understanding repudiates the old. Often, however, the new narrative is not a radical departure from the old one, but an improvised and more sophisticated version of it – one that incorporates what had earlier seemed like outlying data points. The Millerites, for example, survived their Great Disappointment by reaffirming their belief that God is at work in ways that humans cannot always fully anticipate.

    Writing in the mid-20th century, the philosopher Antony Flew suggested that over time, religious beliefs “die the death of a thousand qualifications.” That is, they are modified beyond recognition, to the point of meaninglessness.

    But scholars of religion have documented a pattern in which, rather than dying, fringe beliefs evolve, becoming more socially acceptable. As they are gradually disentangled from politics, they come to be thought of as more truly “religious.”

    Making sense of disappointment

    Whether or not movements like Millerism can move past great disappointments depends in part on the interpretive tools available within the group and the ingenuity of adherents in explaining away their own unfulfilled expectations.

    It is anyone’s guess whether QAnon will survive its current epistemological crisis. And if it does, there is no guarantee that it will emerge chastened.

    Some commentators have predicted that it will return even more dangerous than before, evolving into increasingly virulent strains. It may well be subsumed within a larger conspiracy theory that seeks to explain the current disappointment in the context of an even more elaborate narrative.

    Perhaps one day QAnon will take its place within the domesticated pantheon of American civil religion as another benign and depoliticized “faith.” Then again, it may simply sputter out, dying the death of a thousand qualifications.

    But if history is any guide, whether QAnon survives its Great Disappointment will depend on its adherents’ ability to successfully explain to themselves how they could have been so drastically misled.

    https://theconversation.com/can-qano...t-might-155192

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    So has the bald orange loser taken back the Whitehouse yet? It's time isn't it?

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    You need to be patient. It's still the night of the 3rd, Merkin time. The howl of anguished disappointment won't be heard here until tomorrow morning.

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    Ah OK, got it. So what time should I hit OANN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So has the bald orange loser taken back the Whitehouse yet? It's time isn't it?
    Those peple are amazing. How many times have prophets declared doomsday is coming? Every time there is a following, no matter how many times they were wrong.

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    Q-Anon is JFK Jr.

    Christ on a fucking bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Q-Anon is JFK Jr.

    Christ on a fucking bike.
    If there is one thing that this trump situation has exposes is the amount of stupidity that is around. In a way it is good so that we might defend against it, but in another way it is bad, that it has finally become apparent to the "players" how stupid we are as a group and the amount of crap we are ready to accept .
    These people are tools, and there is no shortage of "Players" out there that are happy to use those tools.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    "Serpent DNA"...

    A California surfing school owner who was charged with killing his two children in Mexico is a follower of QAnon and Illuminati conspiracy theories who thought the children "were going to grow into monsters so he had to kill them," federal officials alleged.

    Matthew Taylor Coleman, 40, was charged Wednesday with foreign murder of U.S. nationals in connection with the death of his 2-year-old son and his 10-month-old daughter, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Central District of California. Authorities said Coleman confessed to the killings and told the FBI that he used a spear fishing gun to stab them.

    A criminal complaint alleges that he told the FBI that he killed his children because he believed they "were going to grow into monsters" and that conspiracy theories led him to believe that his wife had passed down her "serpent DNA" to the children.
    California dad killed his kids over QAnon and '''serpent DNA''' conspiracy theories, feds claim

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    I was going to post that one up. Just unreal.

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    Saw that earlier. Couldn’t bring myself to post it. Made me feel sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    If there is one thing that this trump situation has exposes is the amount of stupidity that is around. In a way it is good so that we might defend against it, but in another way it is bad, that it has finally become apparent to the "players" how stupid we are as a group and the amount of crap we are ready to accept .
    These people are tools, and there is no shortage of "Players" out there that are happy to use those tools.
    Have two guys living across the street that are still flying Trump flags. The ignorance is strong.

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    California dad killed his kids over QAnon and '''serpent DNA''' conspiracy theories, feds claim

    I suspect that Qanon played a minor role in this tragedy.

    One of my acquaintances in UK many years ago had agreed to be a visitor at the Broadmoor Hospital for the criminally insane. Her appointed 'client' told her that it had been necessary to kill his wife and children (apparently he used an axe) to save them from dieing of cancer, that they were contracting from the dinosaurs in the rain drops. This was in the days before the internet became widespread.
    Blessed are the piss takers, for they shall inherit the mirth.

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    This is beyond even an alternate reality......


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    have you got the tl:dr version?

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    Hundreds of QAnon Fans Are Going to Texas to See JFK Return. No, Seriously.

    Hundreds of QAnon supporters are currently traveling from all across the U.S. to Dallas, where they expect to see John F. Kennedy suddenly reappear on Tuesday night and ordain former President Donald Trump as the “king of kings.”

    Some QAnon followers were so eager to secure their place for the return of JFK that on Monday night hundreds of them gathered in Dealey Plaza, where Kennedy was shot in 1963, waiting for the latest QAnon conspiracy theory to come true.

    QAnon influencers are promoting several different versions of the conspiracy theory, and of what will supposedly happen Tuesday night.

    According to Whiplash347, an account with almost 250,000 followers, Trump will be reinstated as the 18th president of the United States, because everything since 1871 (the date the Sovereign Citizen movement claims the U.S. became a corporation) is “illegal.”

    Whiplash347 continues that Trump will then step down, and John F. Kennedy Jr., who died in a plane crash in 1999, will become president “like he would of if it wasn't for Killary plotting to kill him.” Joining JFK Jr. as vice president will be disgraced former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

    At this point, Trump will ascend to “become 1 of the 7 new Kings. Most likely the King of Kings.”

    Michael Brian Protzman, who runs the Negative48 channel (over 100,000 subscribers), sees things slightly differently.

    Protzman has long claimed that the Kennedy bloodline is directly linked to Christ. He told his followers that on Tuesday, “JFK Sr, Jackie, and JFK Jr will be reintroduced to the world.” Then, the JFK Sr. “will travel around for seven days, then will pass.”

    Before he dies, however, “JFK Sr. will transfer power to Donald Trump and JFK Jr. will be Trump’s vice president.”

    Another part of the conspiracy claims that JFK’s return will coincide with the reversion to the Julian Calendar, which means the date will change immediately back to Oct. 20.

    As ludicrous and outrageous as all these claims are, it’s a clear indication of the hold that the QAnon conspiracy movement has over its followers that hundreds of them gathered in Dallas more than 24 hours before this is all scheduled to take place.

    A live video of the gathering on Monday night was posted to YouTube by “Patriot Dave,” a QAnon supporter from Missouri. He spoke to dozens of members of the crowd asking them where they’d traveled from for the event. People there said they had come from Florida, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Delaware, New York, California, North Carolina, Michigan, Arizona, Utah, Minnesota, Georgia, South Dakota, and Indiana. Many in attendance wore T-shirts with the words “Trump-Kennedy 2024” emblazoned on the front.

    Many more QAnon followers have indicated on Telegram groups and other QAnon message boards that they also intend to travel to Dallas on Tuesday for what they believe will be the moment they’ve been waiting for: when Trump is vindicated and order is restored.

    JFK Jr. has been a key part of the QAnon conspiracy mythos for some time. It began in June 2018 when someone claiming to be him posted on the message board 8chan and suggested he was the person behind the movement.

    And last week in Las Vegas, two people who QAnon followers have claimed are JFK Jr. in disguise appeared on stage during the Patriot Double Down, a major QAnon-focused conference.

    Hundreds of QAnon Fans Are Going to Texas to See JFK Return. No, Seriously.

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