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    ^Thanks for proving the point I made in the post you quoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    hitler was not german, so who are you referring to?

    himmler? eichmann? boris becker?
    Don't argue, fubaa said he was Yerman, so who are you to say otherwise??

    Any moment now..."Show me where I posted those exact words, "Hitler was a German?""


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    Is this still the thread about Shamima Begum?

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    ^well, now it's about you being confused, thinking you're a mod.

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    ^ I am not a mod. But am I German or Austrian?

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    ^Neither, you're a twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    ^Neither, you're a twat.
    Is that all? That's a relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    ^Neither, you're a twat.
    I know nothing of your preferences, but twats are useful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Is this still the thread about Shamima Begum?
    Thanks for bring the OP back into focus.

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    Who is Shamima Begum and how do you lose your UK citizenship?


    Shamima Begum is to be allowed to return to the UK to fight the decision to remove her citizenship.

    Who is Shamima Begum?

    Ms Begum is one of three east London schoolgirls who travelled to Syria to join the Islamic State group (IS) in February 2015. She was born in the UK to parents of Bangladeshi heritage and was 15 when she left.
    Ms Begum travelled via Turkey to IS headquarters in Raqqa, where she married a Dutch recruit.


    MET POLICE ... Police released CCTV footage of Shamima Begum and her two friends from Gatwick Airport


    Ms Begum, now 20, lived under IS rule for more than three years.

    She was found, nine months pregnant, in a Syrian refugee camp in February 2019. The baby later died of pneumonia and Ms Begum said she had previously lost two other children.

    After she was found, the then home secretary, Sajid Javid, cancelled her British citizenship on security grounds.

    You can appeal in court against such a decision. Ms Begum did, and the Court of Appeal ruled that she should be allowed to return to the UK to make her case.

    Who is Shamima Begum and how do you lose your UK citizenship? - BBC News
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    So how do you feel about this, dave?

    I’m at a bit of a loss understanding why it’s such a big ‘ffs’ deal to you, to be honest.

    Just one clearly very silly girl who made tragic mistakes from what I see.

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    Ye Dave,

    why are you posting news about this young lady and her horrendous experience under IS.?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    I’m at a bit of a loss understanding why it’s such a big ‘ffs’ deal to you

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    Oh, FFS ... UK schoolgirl who fled to join Islamic State 'wants to return home to Eng-109924368_10216992384858180_8437288394622675603_n-jpg

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    Why worry, Britain has imported so many militant muslims one more is hardly likely to matter now.

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    Wonder if the Govt are paying a return flight.
    Last edited by Chico; 17-07-2020 at 08:30 PM.

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    This is where the more totalitarian systems of Russia & China sometimes possess an advantage, it seems to me. Just have her offed.

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    Shamima Begum should be allowed to return to the UK to fight the decision to remove her British citizenship, the Court of Appeal has ruled.

    The Court of Appeal said she had been denied a fair hearing because she could not make her case from the Syrian camp.

    The ruling means the government must now find a way to allow the 20-year-old, who is currently in Camp Roj in northern Syria, to appear in court in London despite repeatedly saying it would not assist removing her from Syria.

    Lord Justice Flaux - sitting with Lady Justice King and Lord Justice Singh - said: "Fairness and justice must, on the facts of this case, outweigh the national security concerns, so that the leave to enter appeals should be allowed."

    The judge also said that the national security concerns about her "could be addressed and managed if she returns to the United Kingdom".

    The Home Office said the decision was "very disappointing" and it would "apply for permission to appeal".

    Former Home Secretary Sajid Javid, who made the decision to strip Ms Begum of her citizenship in February 2019, tweeted a statement saying he was "deeply concerned about the judgement".

    He said that regardless of the outcome of her case, if Ms Begum came to the UK "it will prove impossible to subsequently remove her".

    Daniel Furner, Ms Begum's solicitor, said: "Ms Begum has never had a fair opportunity to give her side of the story.

    "She is not afraid of facing British justice, she welcomes it. But the stripping of her citizenship without a chance to clear her name is not justice, it is the opposite."


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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    This is where the more totalitarian systems of Russia & China sometimes possess an advantage, it seems to me. Just have her offed.
    Perhaps when the UK has left the EU, and fekked off the human rights law, we can off these creatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang

    This is where the more totalitarian systems of Russia & China sometimes possess an advantage, it seems to me. Just have her offed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chico
    Perhaps when the UK has left the EU, and fekked off the human rights law, we can off these creatures.
    When you find yourself in accordance with Chico over advocating for the extra-judicial execution of a 20 year old woman it's a good sign that you should probably stop drinking and take a good, long, hard look at your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The reason they'll let her back in is cuz the baby will have British nationality and it's human rights will be violated if separated from the mother.
    Only if she can prove when it was born, and actually nowadays, and thanks to terrorists and their fellow-travellers, the rules concerning rights to citizenship are more contingent than they used to be. Ultimately immgration eroded the rights of natural-born native people, as it was intended to by the left, but nature through COVID seems likely to put a stop to that sh!t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    you should probably stop drinking and take a good, long, hard look at your life.
    Which is poignant, coming from your sorry ass.

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    the following article crystallises perfectly the rise of the liberal, sneering, self loathing woke and the havoc they seek to wreak on civilised society.

    the two-faced islamist slag-bitch should be left to rot in the squalor she now finds herself, and i have a feeling that it will be many years before this case reaches a conclusion. sensible folk are waking up the pervasive cancer of wokedom and its malignant influence and the fightback has already started.


    Shamima Begum's predictable return shows how feeble our authorities have become.


    Dripping with sanctimony, the Court’s decision is an insult to the British public which will have to pay for this outrageous racket

    LEO MCKINSTRY

    17 July 2020 • 2:30pm

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    Behind all the sophisticated language about fairness and the rule of law, there is a fundamental decadence about the legal establishment and its progressive supporters.

    This vice not only inspires contempt for our nationhood and security, but also inverts morality, so that innocent are punished and society’s enemies protected. Just as nauseating is the epic hypocrisy. The very people who shriek about the rights of jihadists wilfully ignored for years the serial abuse of vulnerable white girls by predatory Asian gangs in northern towns like Rotherham.

    Similarly, the campaigners who now noisily declare that “the law is the law” never want such judicial rigour applied to drug users or knife wielders or graffiti vandals or statue topplers.

    These twisted values shine through the case of Shamima Begum, who in 2015 fled east London for Syria, where she joined the murderous terror group ISIS and married a Dutch fighter. As a result of these criminal actions, the then Home Secretary Sajid Javid stripped her of British citizenship, though her migrant parentage means that she is also a of Bangladesh by descent.

    Yet, having rejected Britain so aggressively, she has waged a long legal campaign to be allowed to come back here. This week, predictably, she won a crucial step in this fight, as the Court of Appeal decided that she can return to challenge the removal of her citizenship. Having described the Court’s decision as “disappointing”, the Home Office plans to make its own appeal at the ruling, but there can be little hope of success, given the politically correct culture of the liberal judiciary.

    Dripping with sanctimony, the Court’s decision is an insult to the British public which will have to pay for this outrageous racket, including legal aid for Ms Begum. The leading judge Lord Justice Flaux pronounced that that “fairness and justice outweigh national security concerns,” but there is nothing remotely fair or just about this move.

    Throughout her odyssey to Syria, Ms Begum showed a lethal hatred towards this country and eagerly embraced our most deadly foe. The only word for that conduct is treachery. She abnegated her rights when she signed up to movement that aimed to destroy western civilisation.

    It says everything about the warped priorities of the liberal elite that they should devote such frenzied energy to her case as they prattle about the sanctity of the law If a working-class white teenager joined a far-right terror cell in eastern Europe, they would not dream of battling for him through the courts. But in a perverse way, Ms Begum has become a symbol, not of the evil of Islamist brutality, but of British injustice. Her doleful face and pose of victimhood have made a poster girl in parts of the chattering class that despise everything about our nation.

    With an air of grievance, Ms Begum complains that, as a 15-year-old schoolgirl, she was “brainwashed” into her Syrian adventure because she was “a little bit depressed” and “it was easy to manipulate me. But this will not wash.

    Ms Begum is no oppressed victim. She was not “groomed” against her will, but sought out extremist propaganda. Indeed, it is very revealing of the fundamentalist culture that she inhabited in Tower Hamlets that she should be drawn to such vile material. Moreover, she continued to espouse the dark creed of jihadism when she reached Syria.

    By her own admission, she sewed terrorists into their suicide vests, and was left unfazed by the sight of severed heads belonging to ISIS victims. Shamefully, she even justified the Manchester arena atrocity by claiming that the carnage was “retaliation” for western attacks on ISIS.

    This is the woman that the liberal virtue-signallers want to see back in this country. In view of her record, it is obvious that she will have to be treated as a security risk, requiring expensive surveillance. Even worse, her return will open the way for a further influx of British-born jihadists to the return from Syria.

    Already badly over-stretched, MI5 and the police will have a colossal new burden. More domestic terror attacks will be likely. As the Henry Jackson Society warned yesterday, “with approximately 150 such cases, the UK now faces the prospect of a mass wave of some of our worst exports.”

    Once Ms Begum is back here, it is unlikely she will be deported even if she loses her appeal. Instead, she will be lavishly supported by the state with welfare benefits, accommodation, education and police protection. That is the modern British way.

    Terrorism can be the route to a subsidized lifestyle. When a group of Afghans hijacked a plane and had it flown at gunpoint to Stansted in 2000, they should have been instantly deported. “I would like to see their removal from this country as soon as possible,” said the Labour Home Secretary Jack Straw. But that was wishful thinking.

    The creaking wheels of the criminal justice system ensured that they were allowed to stay here permanently, despite their criminality. Along with Afghan hijackers, the other big winners were the lawyers, who enjoyed a bonanza from the case. With a first hearing that featured 14 QCs and 13 other barristers, the two trials cost at least £12 million.

    As usual, it was the British taxpayer who picked up the tab for the privilege of enabling the courts to insist that a gang of terrorists escape any responsibility for the actions.

    The case of Ms Begum is another depressing indicator of how enfeebled our authorities have become. While order collapses, violence rages and cohesion dies, they play their self-indulgent, destructive games. They no longer have the guts to protect our civilisation or uphold our national identity.

    Even under a Conservative government for the last 10 years, our immigration controls have become a sham, with more than 600,000 new arrivals settling here every year. The Home Office, which remains unfit for purpose, admits that it does not have a clue how many illegal immigrants are living here, though such widespread law-breaking seems a matter of supreme indifference to the liberals who bleat “the law’s the law” when it suits them.

    In the same vein, the serious crime of people smuggling across the English Channel goes unpunished, with the Border agencies acting as a quasi-ferry service rather than an arm of law enforcement. Meanwhile police bosses, marinated in toxic identity politics and the fashionable grievance culture, appear to have given up the fight against real crimes like burglary, anti-social behaviour and shoplifting. Instead, they order crackdowns on tweets that are deemed to offend the woke sensibilities of the social justice warriors. According to a recent study by this paper, the police have recorded 120,000 "non-crime" hate incidents over the last five years, an incredible rate of 66 a day.

    Hostile superpowers like China and Russia must be laughing at the spirit of self-loathing and absence of resolve that now infuses our civic institutions. There is a rot eating away at the fabric of our nation, and Ms Begum’s case exposes the depths it has reached.
    Shamima Begum's predictable return shows how feeble our authorities have become

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    the following article crystallises perfectly the rise of the liberal, sneering, self loathing woke and the havoc they seek to wreak on civilised society.

    the two-faced islamist slag-bitch should be left to rot in the squalour she now finds herself, and i have a feeling that it will be many years before this case reaches a conclusion. sensible folk are waking up the pervasive cancer of wokedom and its malignant influence and the fightback has already started.
    Wokeism is already over, the riots are the last spasms of the carcass.

    Ms Begum has major trust issues, and the race card is looking a bit tatty and bloospattered these days.

    The problem is the media and how much unrestrained leverage it has over democratic government; the media is lefty-fascist.

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