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I wonder what this guys political affiliation is.

postal worker recants voter-fraud claims after Republicans call for inquiry – reports
Democrats on House oversight committee say worker retracted allegations in interview with investigators

Maanvi Singh

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Wed 11 Nov 2020 03.26 GMTFirst published on Wed 11 Nov 2020 03.16 GMT
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A US Postal Service vehicle passes the White House, three days after election day.

A postal worker whose allegations of ballot tampering have been the basis of Republicans’ calls for investigations has reportedly recanted his story.


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Democrats on the House oversight committee have said that Richard Hopkins, the worker who claimed in a signed affidavit that a supervisor at the US Postal Service (USPS) in Erie, Pennsylvania, instructed staff to tamper with ballots by backdating ones that arrived late, recanted this allegations yesterday in an interview with investigators for the USPS Inspector General.

Investigators told the committee that Hopkins “did not explain why he signed a false affidavit”, the committee wrote in a statement.

Hopkins admitted to fabricating his claims, the Washington Post reported on Tuesday, citing three officials. After he the affidavit, the South Carolina Republican senator Lindsay Graham, who heads the Senate judiciary committee, called for a federal investigation.

US postal worker recants voter-fraud claims after Republicans call for inquiry – reports | US news | The Guardian

Shit's falling apart fast for those assholes.

Originally Posted by Cujo

I wonder what this guys political affiliation is.

Wanna take a guess?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Wanna take a guess?

Kanye!

Oops, dp. solly.

Remember when a few weeks ago I said "regardless of who wins I am out of here. even though trump might be gone those who support him are not going anywhere" ..
We have truly become a banana republic.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

We have truly become a banana republic.

It has been in the making since the demographics started changing. Started with Bush Jr. America does not want hicks trash running the country.

Originally Posted by Cujo

postal worker recants voter-fraud claims

What a surprise... He did not apply for the whistle-blower protection plan, as they usually get? (What was the case last time in WH?)

^ It’s more like a federal investigation was about to be opened and should he be found to be lying, he would be a felon. If he were telling the truth, he would have witnesses and wouldn’t be afraid of prosecution. This has happened with a couple of others who made off the cuff accusations of vote rigging but when asked to make a formal statement for a judge, slunk away. Never mind!

Key Points

• While NBC News projects Joe Biden will defeat incumbent Donald Trump, the results of the presidential election won’t be finalized until January.
• States certify election results, the Electoral College casts electoral votes, and Congress counts electoral votes.
• Each state has its own timeline for certifying election results.

2020 election: Here'''s when the results will be finalized

The Trump administration has been living in a state of denial for the last four years – this is just the latest incident


Like all good seasons of mists and mellow fruitfulness, the end of the Trump era is a heady mix of sweet melancholy.

There will come a time, soon, when world leaders look back on the last four years with a wry smile and a shake of the head. Instead of the sheer blood-draining horror of sitting beside a sociopathic maniac with the power to destroy the world in a nuclear holocaust.

For now, we must savor the last oozings of this Fall of Donald.

He cuts a tired and bloated figure, to be sure. He tweets less, but he does so in ALL CAPS. All the time. He promises the most amazing revelations and achievements, coming very soon, just like he said they would.

“WE ARE MAKING BIG PROGRESS,” he tweet-shouted on Tuesday. “RESULTS START TO COME NEXT WEEK. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

But next week is when some states begin certifying their votes. The electoral college meets in one month. Now isn’t the time for making progress, or for recycling the slogans of losing campaigns long gone. A week after losing the election, now is the time to deliver the goods, or be delivered for good.

As all good Arsenal fans know, it’s the hope that kills you. And Trump has likely killed more than 700 fans (or their friends) with his awesome campaign rallies.

It’s not easy to keep hope alive in what passes for Trump’s legal circles. As the Biden transition team points out, no less than 13 Trump lawsuits have been dismissed before and after the election. The arguments run the gamut from baseless to mindless, from Sharpie pens to vote count observers. They have mostly failed, just like the Trump presidency.

Take the case of the single postal worker in Pennsylvania who claimed to have witnessed something nefarious involving mail-in ballots. His allegations were swiftly seized upon by the former military lawyer and Trump super-booster Senator Lindsey Graham. Within hours, the attorney general of the United States ordered US attorneys across the country to get to work investigating such claims.

Sadly, the postal worker recanted the whole story on Tuesday, leaving the Trump campaign to wonder if he was suffering unduly from all the public exposure.

One of the few bright spots in an otherwise unremittingly overcast sky was the Pennsylvania and supreme court ruling to segregate ballots that arrived after election day. This epic legal triumph shrunk to bacterial size when Pennsylvania’s secretary of state revealed that the segregated ballots amounted to just 10,000 votes. Joe Biden is currently leading the state’s votes by more than 45,000.

Never mind the battleground states. The Trump administration has been living in a state of denial for the last four years. They claimed the pandemic would disappear like a miracle. That climate crisis was an exaggerated fiction. They said the world respected Donald Trump. And Rudy Giuliani really intended to stage a press conference at Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

There’s a pattern in here somewhere. Oh yes. It’s a pattern of snort-inducing lies, incompetence and delusions.

As the sun sets on Trump, our unnaturally bronzed soon-to-be ex-president is clinging on to the summer of his power with every tweet he can muster. He absolutely, defiantly, categorically will not concede the election, or allow his officials to work on a transition.

This is a shame because it makes him look a pathetically sad loser with a paper-thin skin, which he has been forever. But it’s a shame for his many ardent defenders whose job would be so much easier if they were defending someone with a shred of decency, integrity or maturity.

Commentators at The Wall Street Journal and Fox News (proprietors: the Murdoch family) have strained mightily to condemn the Democrats for being mean, while standing up for every candidate’s right to file endlessly frivolous lawsuits. Republican senators refuse to congratulate the president-elect, Joe Biden, because this election isn’t over until Trump leaves the White House under the armed escort of the Secret Service.

And the secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, half-jokes that he’s ready for a smooth transition to a second Trump term, thereby destroying three decades of American efforts to promote democracy around the world.


No wonder Pompeo is doing sweetheart interviews with small-time rightwing radio hosts such as Mike Belling (Standing Up For Milwaukee) who asked him if he agreed that America was more respected after four years of Trump.

Mike: the answer is no. How can you stand up for Milwaukee if you’ve forgotten how to stand up?

So we have the reality that nearly 80% of Americans believe that Biden won last week’s election while the fantasy politics game of the last four years plays itself out for one more month. There’s even supposed to be a “Million Maga March” in Washington DC this weekend. Let’s hope the crowd is bigger than a Tulsa rally in June.

There seems to be some debate going on, as political insiders try to figure out if this whole post-election period is some coup in the works or an elaborate joke to stop another Trump tantrum. “What’s the downside for humoring him for this little bit of time,” one anonymous Republican official told The Washington Post.

Setting aside the obvious damage Trump is inflicting on the Biden transition, there might just be some downside for his party in the two run-offs in Georgia that will decide control of the US Senate next year.


Georgia’s Republican candidates could spend the next two months talking about how they will act as a check and balance on a Biden presidency. Or they could just deny the outcome of the election and face endless questions about the last of Trump’s summer whine.

What’s the downside of a little bit humoring of a little old president? There is the small matter of American national security, including its vastly expensive and super-secret intelligence community.

There could be an innocent explanation for a lame-duck president firing the secretary of defense, and installing former aides to House Republican Devin Nunes and Michael Flynn at the National Security Agency and to run the huge Defense Intelligence Agency. Nunes was one of the key players undermining the Mueller and FBI investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Meanwhile Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, was convicted of lying to the FBI about his Russian contacts during the Trump transition.

What on earth could go wrong with our national exercise in humoring Donald Trump?

There is a season for everything and everyone. For Joe Biden, this is a time to heal, to reach out to Republicans and bring the country back together.

But for Donald Trump, winter is coming, and with it probably a long-overdue IRS bill, a very large bank debt for repayment, or a New York prosecution for tax fraud.

Never mind the mellow fruitfulness. It’s time to burn the village down.

Trump's refusal to concede follows his pattern of incompetence and delusions | US elections 2020 | The Guardian

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There are quite a few distraught Aussies on Trump's Twitter feed. The reach and appeal to his neanderthalic brethren - no matter their passport
- can not be underestimated.

Sadly, I count some of my closest family as part of his cult of ignorance and intolerance. I try to think of them as misguided to ease the pain though...

Most trumptards know trump is a pathological liar and villain. He serves as a front man for all their hate toward people of colour and those who are progressive in thought, many of whom would think nothing of installing trump as dictator and incarcerating the opposition. They are dangerous to a democracy, law and order, and civility, and the reason why I can't stand the sight of them. I think Biden is entirely wrong about the idea of unifying the country. Instead, he should treat them just like trump treated the liberals, with utter scorn and derision. He will never be able to win them over and would do nothing but make a fool of himself trying to do it. I would tolerate them like I would tolerate bed bugs.

Originally Posted by elche

I think Biden is entirely wrong about the idea of unifying the country. Instead, he should treat them just like trump treated the liberals, with utter scorn and derision. He will never be able to win them over and would do nothing but make a fool of himself trying to do it.

I think he knows that. He still needs to make appropriate noises, so he can win over a few Republicans. Soften the hard blockade of everything useful done by his administration.

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

Really! Neither butt hurt or looking for sympathy. As an Australian I just feel bad for all the good American people who had their votes lost or tampered with and now their possible future president is a sick pedo criminal...well till he accidently departs this world. The corruption is obvious.

Even his own observers say it was ridgididge. Fair and honest.
Just accept it, he lost. Don't be snowflake about it ffs.

International election experts invited by the Trump administration to observe the U.S. election last week issued a preliminary report that found no evidence of the widespread fraud alleged by President Trump.

Presidential election was honest, report international observers invited by the Trump administration

The report did find “clear examples of intimidation of electoral officials” — by Trump supporters in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona who unsuccessfully sought to halt the counting of votes.

The report also took aim at Trump himself for statements questioning the legitimacy of the vote, claiming that Democrats were trying to “steal” the election.

“In his statement the Republican candidate cast further aspersions on the US electoral process, stating that ‘This is a case where they’re trying to steal an election. They’re trying to rig an election and we can’t let that happen.’ The OAS observers deployed in the battleground states of Michigan and Georgia did not witness any of the aforementioned irregularities,” the report states.

While the report notes that it supported the right for Trump to “seek redress” in the courts for questionable election practices, it warns against promoting “unsubstantiated or harmful speculation.”

Check this out. Hypocrites.

Trump officials mocked Democrats in 2016 as 'sore losers' for not accepting election results - CNNPolitics

Well, I am glad this forum isn't run by a nanny or a granny like the other shit forum (TVF) I joined earlier in the year. I like less censorship on this forum. So I assume I can say what I really think about Democrats, socialist and communists???

Watch this and you will know how most of us here feel.

https://twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/...44728472842242

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

So I assume I can say what I really think about Democrats, socialist and communists???

Of course, you can (We Can). Provided that what you say is in accordance what we like to hear with...

Originally Posted by aging one

Watch this and you will know how most of us here feel.

https://twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/...44728472842242

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

Well, I am glad this forum isn't run by a nanny or a granny like the other shit forum (TVF) I joined earlier in the year. I like less censorship on this forum. So I assume I can say what I really think about Democrats, socialist and communists???

That's really clever. No-one will ever believe you have come back with a different nic to continue your shit trolling until you get booted again.

Originally Posted by aging one

Check this out. Hypocrites.

Trump officials mocked Democrats in 2016 as 'sore losers' for not accepting election results - CNNPolitics

Try going to loser.com

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Shit troll is back.

Should be in jail son I fancy.

Another seppo wanker pretending to be an Aussie and therefore 'independent' re US politics yet his only posts are virulent anti-Dem and Biden.

Yup - they breed them stupid