Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm seeing a pattern here: Baldy orange losers legal team are as fucking thick as he is.

Not quite, a pro will take the money whatever the futility....it's the pay cheque that counts.

Originally Posted by Troy

Not quite, a pro will take the money whatever the futility....it's the pay cheque that counts.

But when you are on billable hours you want it to last a bit longer than the judge telling you to fuck off at the first attempt.

I'm amazed the press that showed this fucking harpy banging on about her ballot being stolen are not questioning her as to why she would not sign a form to that effect....

Surely that is voter fraud?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Clearly went to the klondyke school of practical stupidity

Originally Posted by hallelujah

It's a cult with Klondyke levels of brainwashing.

Ah Klondyke . . . A Russian bot, dreaming of the good old times that never were and the democracy that never existed.

Held in high esteem by noteworthy overachievers like Skidmark, chico, OhOh . . .

Originally Posted by David48atTD

David Bossie, who was named to lead Trump effort to challenge election results, tests positive for coronavirus


As a result, Bossie is no longer part of the decision-making process of that challenge effort, a source told NBC News.

Nice excuse . . . "oh, doctor, please pronounce me C-19 positive . . . "

Just scrolling through Trumps twitters, he's frantically stirring up all sorts shit. One outrageous accusation after the next. Fox has pissed a lot of people off by cutting away from a kaylee mcenany bulkshit fest.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Just scrolling through Trumps twitters, he's frantically stirring up all sorts shit. One outrageous accusation after the next. Fox has pissed a lot of people off by cutting away from a kaylee mcenany bulkshit fest.

Curious to wonder what the civilian Trump Twitter page might look like...if they don't ban him before mid-January.

The chaos begins

Donald Trump has fired his defence secretary, Mark Esper, in the latest sign that the transition to a new Biden administration in January is going to be turbulent on both domestic and foreign fronts.

Esper was fired by tweet on Monday afternoon, with the president declaring he was “pleased to announce that Christopher C Miller, the highly respected director of the National Counterterrorism Center (unanimously confirmed by the Senate), will be acting secretary of defense, effective immediately.

“Chris will do a GREAT job! Mark Esper has been terminated. I would like to thank him for his service.”

Esper had been at odds with Trump on a number of issues, most importantly his insistence at the height of the Black Lives Matter protests in the summer that there were no legal grounds to deploy active-service troops on the streets of US cities.

He was also working with Congress on legislation to rename US army bases named after Confederate generals. In a final interview Esper predicted that he would be followed by a “yes man”, adding “And then God help us.”

Miller arrived at the Pentagon on Monday amid questions about the legality of his appointment. By law, the deputy secretary of defence, currently David Norquist, would become acting secretary in the event of a sudden departure at the top. Furthermore, the law requires that a secretary of defence to have been out of active duty military service for seven years. Miller, a former Green Beret, only left the military in 2014.

The law can be sidestepped by a vote in Congress, as was done for Esper’s predecessor James Mattis, a retired marine.

In the face of Trump’s widely reported fury of his intransigence, Esper stopped giving press briefings in the Pentagon in July. He is reported to have written his resignation letter before the election, and Trump may have moved abruptly to prevent his defence secretary from taking the initiative.

The president insisted he fired Mattis in December 2018, even though Mattis’s critical resignation letter had been widely circulated.

“The abrupt firing of Secretary Esper is disturbing evidence that President Trump is intent on using his final days in office to sow chaos in our American democracy and around the world,” the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, said.

In an interview with Military Times given the day after the election and published on Monday, Esper said he was proud of the occasions he stood up to Trump, angrily rejecting the nickname of Yesper, used by critics who saw him as too subservient to Trump.

“My frustration is I sit here and say, ‘Hm, 18 cabinet members. Who’s pushed back more than anybody?’ Name another cabinet secretary that’s pushed back,” Esper said. “Have you seen me on a stage saying, ‘Under the exceptional leadership of blah-blah-blah, we have blah-blah-blah-blah?”


He claimed success in “protecting the institution, which is really important to me” and “preserving my integrity in the process”.

“At the end of the day, it’s as I said – you’ve got to pick your fights,” he added. “I could have a fight over anything, and I could make it a big fight, and I could live with that – why? Who’s going to come in behind me? It’s going to be a real ‘yes man.’ And then God help us.”

“This is purely an act of retaliation by a president thinking more about his petty grievances than about the good of the country,” said Lawrence Korb, a former assistant secretary of defence and senior fellow at the Center for American Progress. “It will make the transition to a new administration even more difficult. The message it sends around the world is that Trump is going to continue his disruptive policies for the rest of his time in office.”

Esper may not be the last head to fall in the national security leadership. CNN cited an unnamed senior official that Esper feared the directors of the FBI and CIA, Christopher Wray and Gina Haspel, would be next to go.

Though Trump has not conceded defeat in the presidential election, Miller will only have a little more than two months in the role before Joe Biden enters the White House.

Esper was Trump’s second permanent secretary of defence, after Mattis, a retired US Marine Corps general who resigned in late 2018. Mattis was succeeded by Patrick Shanahan, a former Boeing executive who spent months in the role but was not formally confirmed by the Senate.

Trump came close to firing Esper on 3 June when the former Raytheon arms executive publicly contradicted the president over the potential use of the 1807 Insurrection Act to deploy active-duty military units against protests in Washington and other cities.

Esper said the circumstances did not justify the use of the act, which can empower a president to send troops into states against the wishes of local authorities. Trump had threatened to invoke the law two days earlier. Following Esper’s remarks, the White House noted it was a decision for the president alone.

Esper had also given orders for a battalion of the 82nd Airborne Division and military police units to return to base after they had been flown to the Washington area. He reversed the withdrawal order after visiting the White House, but the troops were withdrawn a few days later.

According to reports quoting administration sources at the time, Trump’s aides advised him against firing his second defence secretary, and Esper was urged not to offer his resignation by his own advisers. According to the Wall Street Journal, he had already begun to draft a resignation letter.

Esper and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Gen Mark Milley, were heavily criticised by former senior defence officials and military leaders, for appearing alongside Trump on 1 June, at a photo op outside a church near the White House, after the surrounding area had been cleared by police and other federal security forces using teargas, mounted police and baton charges.


Milley later apologised for his appearance, saying he should not have been there.

In a third source of friction, Esper said he was open to discussion about the renaming of military bases named after Confederate army officers. The White House had ruled out any change to the names.

Esper became defence secretary in July 2019, succeeding acting secretary Shanahan. Shanahan had taken over following Mattis’s resignation, who left the administration over Trump’s decision to withdraw troops from northern Syria, abandoning Kurdish allies who had led the fight against the Islamic State.

After a long silence, Mattis accused Trump of abuse of executive office and making a “mockery of the constitution” in the administration’s response to the George Floyd protests.

Mark Esper fired as Pentagon chief after contradicting Trump | US news | The Guardian

Barr has ordered the DOJ to investigate allegations of voter fraud .
This could get messy.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Barr has ordered the DOJ to investigate allegations of voter fraud .
This could get messy.

Futile gesture, trying to stay on the right side of his "master".

Originally Posted by Cujo

Barr has ordered the DOJ to investigate allegations of voter fraud .
This could get messy.

Why we do not see the many allegation on MSM (and TD either)? Don't we live in a "free" world?

Or do some righteous organs protect the "free" world from lies and confusions, distraction, deceptions, you name it?

Mr. Lukashenko has still to learn a lot... Why the Republicans do not set up another president abroad, like some other countries supported by (please no names here)?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Why we do not see the many allegation on MSM (and TD either)? Don't we live in a "free" world?

Because they are baseless and bullshit and intended only for the consumption of Trumptards so they will keep funding his grifting.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Why the Republicans do not set up another president abroad, like some other countries supported by (please no names here)?

because they don't have to move their opposition abroad, their life's are not threatened

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Because they are baseless and bullshit and intended only for the consumption of Trumptards so they will keep funding his grifting.

Are you insinuating that the 50% (or more) of the US population - that's quite a lot of American people - who voted for Trump are baseless BSitter? (or were the ballots cast by Putin?)

(Luckily your are on the other 50% - exceptional, aren't you?)

The Trump crime syndicate is not finished yet. Bill Barr, a top crime boss of the syndicate, told federal prosecutors to examine allegations of voting irregularities.

DOJ's top election crimes prosecutor quits in protest after Barr tells federal attorneys to probe unsupported allegations of voting irregularities - CNNPolitics

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Are you insinuating that the 50% (or more) of the US population - that's quite a lot of American people - who voted for Trump are baseless BSitter?

As usual our Russian bot hasn't been paying attention . . . and as was mentioned at least opposition don't get poisoned like in Russia

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Are you insinuating that the 50% (or more) of the US population - that's quite a lot of American people - who voted for Trump are baseless BSitter? (or were the ballots cast by Putin?)

(Luckily your are on the other 50% - exceptional, aren't you?)

I'm straight-out saying you are full of shit and making bad faith posts / arguments.

Is that clear enough for you.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Are you insinuating that the 50% (or more) of the US population

Less than half the total population even voted. So as usual you have no clue what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

(Luckily your are on the other 50% - exceptional, aren't you?)

Not at all. Just normal. But you're abnormal.

It's clear to see that those that want a handout from those that have jobs, ect are all in the Biden line. I'd comment further but I do need some rest so I can support you all m..kers tomorrow.

Originally Posted by elche

The Trump crime syndicate is not finished yet. Bill Barr, a top crime boss of the syndicate, told federal prosecutors to examine allegations of voting irregularities.

DOJ's top election crimes prosecutor quits in protest after Barr tells federal attorneys to probe unsupported allegations of voting irregularities - CNNPolitics

Let them do what they like. If they try and make up anything, it will be ripped to shreds come January 20th.

Ok, I the fish decided to run in four years.
It will ,I will run as the " fish dole" campaign.

The lawyers will lose, but Trump will drag it on as long as possible to get donations for his defence fund from his gullible followers, and then use that money to pay off his campaign debts. There will be dangerous side effects for America though, as his followers will still think the fraud is true, unless Donald concedes the election was fair. But you know he won't do that.

If he isn't convicted of a felony in the next year or so, there's a good chance he may win again in 4 years.

Originally Posted by fishlocker

It's clear to see that those that want a handout from those that have jobs, ect are all in the Biden line. I'd comment further but I do need some rest so I can support you all m..kers tomorrow.

Are you suggesting Democrats don't have jobs ?
Or that Republicans all have jobs?