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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Holding up or not.

    Hard for me and you to meassure if they lie or not

    If they decide to vote Biden, then they aren't lying ?

    I know that several "left leaners" here on TD has used the 'lesser evil' term.

    Are they lying too ?
    I feel you're missing the point somewhat.

    If after four years of the constant abomination and flouting of laws and norms, the constant scandals, the lies, the limitless hate and division, more lies, if someone still thinks Trump is the 'lessor of two evils' then they're either a moron or just waking from a coma.

    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Don't underestimate the riots and unrest. it's water on the Trump mill.
    Err, It's Trump's America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Err, It's Trump's America.
    I don't think that Trump invented the killing of unarmed blacks.
    That's what the protests are about now, right ?
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    If after four years of the constant abomination and flouting of laws and norms, the constant scandals, the lies, the limitless hate and division, more lies, if someone still thinks Trump is the 'lessor of two evils' then they're either a moron or just waking from a coma.
    Really ?
    But it could be 'fake news'

    I'm pretty sure that more americans watch Fox etc, than Teakdoor or whereever todays oracles share their analytic views.

    If you tell a rightwinger(in America) to chose between a raving conservative nutter, and a communist who wants your gun and your unborn babies, what's he/she/it gonna take ?

    Concentrate on potential democrate voters

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    I don't think that Trump invented the killing of unarmed blacks.
    That's what the protests are about now, right ?
    No but it's happening in Trump's America and being fed and inflamed by a racist president.

    The answer to ending protests under Trump isn't to vote Trump.

    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    But it could be 'fake news'
    But it isn't.

    My point is simply that if anyone hasn't made up their mind either way by now they're lying or a moron. Maybe both.

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    Trump will win because he can run a pep rally. Simple as that. His message will continue to change until he finds the correct set of buttons to push to get folk voting for him. American voters will disregard/minimize the checkered past and will listen to and support his "message" whatever it may be. He will search until he finds a message that incites support he needs. He did it before and he'll do it again. His playbook hasn't changed.

    The Biden/Harris ticket will satisfy a good many people. But, will nor incite the ground swell of support required to overcome Trump.


    So all the died in wool democrat supporters and anti-Trumpers can trade bad trump barbs, but, that won't be enough to overcome his pep rally's.

    Although I am American and I will vote - I am past caring about the results of the election. My sole vote will not change a thing and the winner/loser of this election will not affect me one iota - unless of course the reincarnates are correct and I got to come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    that won't be enough to overcome his pep rally's.
    Held with no social distancing protocols in place and barely a mask mere days after Trump was heard on tape saying that Covid is worse and more deadly than he had let on and subsequently lied about.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Trump will win because...
    ...apparently something like 40% of Americans are morons.

    You're voting Trump, aren't you bowie.


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    Depends on Bidens proposals - if Biden is running on the "vote for me because I'm not Trump" platform - speaks for itself.

    Frankly, my concern and issues are limited only to Social Security and Taxation.

    USA Social Security in 2021 will start to draw on the trust fund - big problems in the near future, talk of payouts at 75%. Already drawn down my benefits by increasing months to my FRA, full retirement age.

    Taxes - politician double speak - we will only raise taxes on the rich. In a politicians dictionary rich means not being on the government dole.



    Anyway - at this point in time I am in the undecided column. My decision will be based entirely upon who I believe is the better candidate for my wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Anyway - at this point in time I am in the undecided column. My decision will be based entirely upon who I believe is the better candidate for my wallet.

    Yeah you’re gonna vote Trump!

    Spoilers: he’s on record stating he’s going to gut SS and his tax cuts become permanent for his rich buddies, not that facts matter.

    He was right about one thing in that he could shoot someone and not lose votes because no mater how much he lies, no matter how much of a traitor he is, no matter how utterly moronic and incompetent his supporters don’t care. It’s a cult. Thousands are dead from his lies and many thousands of not hundreds of thousands more will and morons still gonna moron.

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    hmm... I take your going to vote for Biden?

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    I can’t vote and that would be illegal.

    Your man Trump is encouraging voter fraud though. Just another example of why he’s unfit for office... not that it matters to, ahem, undecideds such as yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    The answer to ending protests under Trump isn't to vote Trump.
    Ofcourse it isn't

    Unless you would want the National Guard or such involved
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    .apparently something like 40% of Americans are morons.
    And again:

    He got 25 % of the electorate last time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    He got 25 % of the electorate last time around.
    .apparently something like 40% of American voters are morons.
    Happy now?

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Happy now?


    Just no reason to make things worse

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    12 years ago the voters in America wanted change. Sick of politicians in the troff, they have been in politics for decades and all that seems to happen is that they and their families get rich. Australians feel the same. Remember when you wanted a bull in the china shop? They are all the same we said? Now we have one, Unsurprisingly the people with most to lose are fighting against Trump. The big pharma companies, the military industrial complex, the old guard politicians, the rich media bosses, This is all out in the open for us to see for the first time in decades. You just watch what they do now after he has been nominated TWICE for a Nobel Peace Prize.(By 2 different Foreign countries) 'You can't always get what ya want, but if ya try sometimes,ya might just find, ya get what ya need."

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    [QUOTE=AntRobertson;4159665]No but it's happening in Trump's America and being fed and inflamed by a racist president.[/QUOTE

    Please inform us all of the proof you have that the president is a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Please inform us all of the proof you have that the president is a racist.
    “You Don’t Want to Live With Them Either”
    “Bring Back the Death Penalty” (Central Park Five)
    “They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me” (casinos in Connecticut and New York)
    “Our Very Vicious World” (The Apprentice, pitted “a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites”?)
    “He Doesn’t Have a Birth Certificate” (President Barack Obama had been born in the United States.)
    “On Many Sides” (neo-Nazis and white supremacists)
    “Go Back to Their Huts” (immigration from majority-Muslim countries)

    Easy enough: Trump’s Racism: An Oral History - The Atlantic
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    12 years ago the voters in America wanted change.
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Sick of politicians in the troff
    But tax dodgers are better
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    they have been in politics for decades
    My guess is that he has "sponsored"/ bought influence for a long time
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    all that seems to happen is that they and their families get rich.
    Check
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Unsurprisingly the people with most to lose are fighting against Trump. The big pharma companies, the military industrial complex, the old guard politicians, the rich media bosses,
    He is bad for business and those moguls are probably tired of everybody's sniggering, when a US citizen enters the room,an elevator or a toilet
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    You just watch what they do now after he has been nominated TWICE for a Nobel Peace Prize.(By 2 different Foreign countries)
    Governments ?

    Israel or some pacific Island ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    You just watch what they do now after he has been nominated TWICE for a Nobel Peace Prize.
    He has only been nominated once in person, second nomination is for the governments of US, Kosovo, and Serbia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Governments ?

    Israel or some pacific Island ?
    Sweden by a fukwit from the christian democrat party

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Sweden by a fukwit from the christian democrat party
    OK
    What for ?


    If it's the Peace thingy, he should share it with Kim and Dennis Rodman

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Please inform us all of the proof you have that the president is a racist.
    I would start at post #1 on the baldy orange cunto thread and take it from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    “You Don’t Want to Live With Them Either”
    “Bring Back the Death Penalty” (Central Park Five)
    “They Don’t Look Like Indians to Me” (casinos in Connecticut and New York)
    “Our Very Vicious World” (The Apprentice, pitted “a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites”?)
    “He Doesn’t Have a Birth Certificate” (President Barack Obama had been born in the United States.)
    “On Many Sides” (neo-Nazis and white supremacists)
    “Go Back to Their Huts” (immigration from majority-Muslim countries)

    And what is racist????????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    But tax dodgers are better

    My guess is that he has "sponsored"/ bought influence for a long time

    Check


    He is bad for business and those moguls are probably tired of everybody's sniggering, when a US citizen enters the room,an elevator or a toilet


    Governments ?

    Israel or some pacific Island ?
    "My guess", is not answer bro, We all wanted a fucking change 12 years ago, all we got was more wars, and the media pandering to it, The last government could do no wrong, even when it increased bombing, increased spying, increased the amount of money they make!!! The one guy that is giving his taxpayer funded salary to charity is the guy they want to stop. Troops coming home!! they say "no good" Talking with North Korea? they say "no good". Nato paying more? they say "no good", Troops out of the EU? they say "no good" FFS can you see a pattern here?

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    ^^
    'I shall therefore nominate the goverments of USA, Kosovo and Serbia ...............'

    Magnus Jacobson

    Representative

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    FFS can you see a pattern here?
    The pattern is that of american party politics.

    Republicans say no to democrat proposals and viseversa

    They are all very childish and should be trown out,.. if something better is on the shelves overthere.


    But it won't happen in a two party dictatorship

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    So..
    Kosovo and Serbia has made a trade agreement.

    That is a plus

    Trump is a master of trade talks


    The guy who nominates the 3 administrations, hasn't even got some from his party to co sign


    Is he a lone wolf or does he want the attention for himself ?

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