Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Narcissists don't react well to criticism

No, they don't . . .

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

(look at LD for a more localized example )

Do I have to?


Here's one - the idiot still thinks the US has more cases because they test more

Oh dear...

Amazon has removed a clothing line emblazoned with an offensive slogan referring to Kamala Harris from its website after complaints from Twitter users who branded it “unacceptable”.


The T-shirts, tank tops and hoodies which had the words “Joe and the hoe” written in red, white and blue in the style of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and his running mate Harris’s campaign logo, were on sale for between $24.99 and $42.99.

Great news. Media is talking about something other than Covit.

Here we go! The rubber has contacted the political road.

From what I just watched, good start for the Dems however, much will hinge on the upcoming debates before we see much movement in the polls.

Originally Posted by Norton

much will hinge on the upcoming debates before we see much movement in the polls.

Why still go through with them . . . it's all so farcical. If real-time fact-checking was included then yes, but this is simply bullshit

Originally Posted by Norton

Still Barack hit the nail on the head when he said Trump will do anything to win so standby.

What a surprise discovery. As if any of candidate would not do anything to win...

It's very comforting for the population to know that anything what both of them do (and their Melody Boys either), is just for the winning, not what is really needed for the country (and the world)...

Then, some others can do (undisturbed) for the "what is really needed"...

^ Yes the Kursk did sink. Obama at the helm? Belarus intervention? Unknow naval atrocities do occur. Was it bound for Murmansk or Havana? Cigarette taxes are superfluous.

Originally Posted by Norton

From what I just watched, good start for the Dems however, much will hinge on the upcoming debates before we see much movement in the polls.

i'm reasonably confident that minds are made up for the overwhelming majority of americans.


this election is a referendum on trump. every poll clearly states that people are not happy with him or the direction he is taking the country.

i believe it will all come down to turn out.....and whether or not all the votes get counted.


FWIW, biden is a better than average 1 on 1 debater, and the shortsighted idiots in the trump campaign have set the bar so incredibly low.

Originally Posted by aging one

^ Yes the Kursk did sink. Obama at the helm? Belarus intervention? Unknow naval atrocities do occur. Was it bound for Murmansk or Havana? Cigarette taxes are superfluous.

You have decoded Klondyke-Bullshit . . . you are awesomely super-smart

Originally Posted by raycarey

biden is a better than average 1 on 1 debater,

Yes, but Trump will lie, bully and bluster his way through

Originally Posted by raycarey

i believe it will all come down to turn out

100% the bottom line.
Harris will focus on this along with Bernie.
Biden will lay out platform.
Barack and Michelle will rattle Trump.

Sounds like a plan a good one..

People are going to see their cheques and medications delayed because of this.

And they are going to see McConnell block a Democrat bill that provides funding to the USPS.

And they're going to be pissed off.

I reckon this might work out well for the Dems, especially if the push for Drop Boxes is thorough enough.

You don't actually need to "mail in" a "Mail In" ballot.

By the time Postmaster General Louis DeJoy halted a raft of changes that might slow down the U.S. mail, the Postal Service had already shut down 40% of the high-speed letter-sorting machines in the Seattle-Tacoma area, KUOW has learned.

Following a national uproar over the removal of postal equipment and reductions of retail service hours and worker overtime, the Trump Administration’s new postmaster general announced Tuesday that he was putting the initiatives on hold until November.
“To avoid even the appearance of any impact on election mail, I am suspending these initiatives until after the election is concluded,” DeJoy said in a statement.
“The Postal Service is ready today to handle whatever volume of election mail it receives this fall,” he said.
Due to the Covid-19 pandemic, an unprecedented number of Americans are expected to vote by mail this fall.


When asked how many machines had already been decommissioned and whether they would be put back in service, Postal Service spokesperson David Partenheimer declined to comment.

If letter-sorting machines remain out of service, it could put a dent in the post office’s ability to quickly deliver both letters and mail-in ballots.
Internal documents from May reveal that the Postal Service was planning to remove 20% of "DBCS" (digital barcode sorter) machines nationwide this summer.
In Washington state, at least 23 DBCS letter-sorting machines had been dismantled by Tuesday at major postal facilities, according to a tally by KUOW:

• Kent: 4 of 10 machines
• Redmond: 5 of 12
• Spokane: 1 of 14
• Tacoma: 5 of 13
• Tukwila: 6 of 16
• Wenatchee: 1 of 3
• Yakima: 1 of 3

Brian Warden works the night shift at the mail-processing plant in Kent, just south of Seattle, where he operates letter-sorting machines.
These noisy, whirring behemoths are about 80 feet long: the length of a hinged city bus.
“These machines require so much power that the power cord to them is about the size of a firehose or bigger,” Warden said.
One machine can sort six letters a second, more than 20,000 an hour, into hundreds of trays for different letter carriers. Letters in each tray are stacked in the exact order each mail carrier will need to grab them while walking a route.

“It would take a crew of 20 to 30 people hand-sorting the mail all night to do what one of these machines can do in a couple hours,” Warden said. “Our infrastructure doesn’t work without these machines.”
Warden, an officer of the American Postal Workers Union, said the four letter-sorting machines that management ordered taken down were being fully used until they were dismantled.
“In our meetings with management, the union has been given no rationale whatsoever,” he said.
The Covid-19 pandemic has slashed the volume of letters the Postal Service handles, while the volume of packages has soared.
Before the pandemic, Warden said, letter volumes were dropping gradually, about 3% a year.

“It'd be foolish to adjust your equipment and whatnot on the premise that it's going to stay so low,” he said. “Someday, Covid will be done.”
“What’s going on right now is nothing less than a full-on assault by this administration on the U.S. Postal Service, an institution that millions of Americans rely on every single day,” Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson said.
Ferguson, with 13 other states signing on, sued the Trump administration to block the Postal Service initiatives on Tuesday.
During their press conference, Ferguson and Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro were surprised by the breaking news that the Postal Service would be suspending its controversial initiatives.
The Postal Service also announced it would put additional vehicles and other resources on standby on Oct. 1 to handle any unforeseen demand with the election.

Ferguson said moves implemented by the post office had already done damage by slowing the delivery of everything from Social Security checks to prescriptions.
“There’s zero chance we take our foot off the gas,” Ferguson said. “We want that in writing and confirmed before we delay or stop what we’re doing.”
"I’ll believe it when I see it," Shapiro said.


The fate of the disabled sorting machines, and even entire processing plants, remains unclear.
Photos shared by workers at the Postal Service processing plant in Tacoma show piles of conduit, used to house wires running to the big sorters, next to dismantled machines.
“They’ve taken the machines apart and shoved them to a different part of the building,” Donna Brooks with the American Postal Workers Union local in Tacoma said.
Tuesday afternoon, managers ordered postal workers in Tacoma, Wenatchee and Yakima to reconnect their machines ASAP, using overtime if necessary.
Reconnecting the wiring and oversized conduits should take about five hours per machine, depending how extensively they’ve been taken apart, according to postal workers.
“Luckily, the machines haven’t left the building,” Brooks said.
The Spokane Spokesman-Review had reported Monday that the Postal Service was ending all mail processing at those three locations.
The Postmaster General’s announcement on Tuesday said that no facilities would close until November.
A few hours after the reconnect order, the Postal Service’s head of maintenance ordered that machines nationwide not be reconnected without approval from Postal Service headquarters.
“Although the Postmaster General belatedly suspended at least some of these changes yesterday, today he is backpedaling by refusing to put back the sorting machines, mailboxes, and other infrastructure he ordered removed,” Rep. Carolyn Maloney, a Democrat from New York, said in a statement Wednesday.
Postmaster General DeJoy has agreed to testify and face questioning before the U.S. House of Representatives’ oversight committee, which Maloney chairs. He also faces an investigation from the Postal Service’s Inspector General and is scheduled to testify before a U.S. Senate committee on Friday.
“Democrats have fabricated a baseless conspiracy theory about the Postal Service and now they are asking American taxpayers to foot the bill for their fake crisis,” the leading Republican on the House oversight committee, Rep. James Comer of Kentucky, said in a statement.
The House is returning to work a month ahead of schedule to vote on $25 billion in relief funding for the Postal Service and measures aimed at protecting the service’s ability to deliver mail and ballots promptly in a pandemic.
Postal Service internal planning documents from May show the agency was planning to remove 746 letter-sorting machines, or 1 in 5 nationwide, this summer:

KUOW - 40% of letter-handling machines dismantled in Seattle-Tacoma area

This will look good against the Trumpanzee convention.....

Families grieving loved ones lost in the coronavirus pandemic are set to lead a candlelit "March for the Dead" to highlight the number of people who have died from COVID-19 under President Donald Trump's watch ahead of next week's Republican National Convention.
Hundreds are expected to join the sunset candlelight procession on Friday, which will see demonstrators march from the Barclays Center in Brooklyn to the Trump Building in New York City, where a vigil will be held honoring the thousands who have died from coronavirus in the U.S.
As of early Thursday morning, the U.S. had seen more than 5.5 million cases of coronavirus confirmed, with 173,181 cases resulting in death, according to the Johns Hopkins University's online tracker.

Families of Coronavirus Victims to Lead 'March for the Dead' Before RNC

Republicans quietly push mail-in voting despite Trump claims

President Donald Trump may rail against mail-in ballots in public, but state and local Republicans are quietly telling Americans that’s exactly how they should vote.


In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests. In Pennsylvania, the GOP’s website promotes voting by mail: "Vote Safe: By mail. From home.” And in Ohio, the Republican Party sent mailers with Trump’s photo saying “Join President Trump and Vote by Absentee Ballot.”

Tens of millions of Americans will cast their ballot for president by mail this year — many in Republican-dominated states and swing states where Republican turnout is crucial for Trump — as the coronavirus outbreak keeps Americans at home. And it won’t be the first time. More than 33 million Americans — nearly one in four — voted by mail in Trump’s first successful election in 2016.

MORE Republicans quietly push mail-in voting despite Trump claims - POLITICO

As I've said before, when Biden starts campaigning the polls will most likely get closer. He's brought up his plan to ban assault rifles which will gain him no new votes, and will push Republicans on the fence back into Trumps camp.

Good luck America, but you blew your last chance and his name was Bernie.

Originally Posted by pickel

As I've said before, when Biden starts campaigning the polls will most likely get closer. He's brought up his plan to ban assault rifles which will gain him no new votes, and will push Republicans on the fence back into Trumps camp.

Good luck America, but you blew your last chance and his name was Bernie.

Yeah, I mean look at the last bloke to back an Assault Weapons Ban.

Ruined his chances of re-election.






Oh.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

What a surprise discovery. As if any of candidate would not do anything to win...

Like subvert the election, constitution and law? When did Obama, Hillary or Biden do this?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yeah, I mean look at the last bloke to back an Assault Weapons Ban.

Ruined his chances of re-election.






Oh.

He wasn't running against Trump, which requires gaining votes from Republicans. People that support a ban are already voting for Biden. He will lose votes, not gain them.

Originally Posted by pickel

As I've said before, when Biden starts campaigning the polls will most likely get closer. He's brought up his plan to ban assault rifles which will gain him no new votes, and will push Republicans on the fence back into Trumps camp.

Good luck America, but you blew your last chance and his name was Bernie.

Can't see that myself, Bernie is perceived to be more left than Biden and merely the mention of the word 'socialist' sends Republicans running for the fainting couch and smelling salts.

And also let's face it -- if there are any Republicans still left on the fence at this point they are clearly fucking idiots.

Originally Posted by pickel

He will lose votes, not gain them

Probably but I don't think enough to change the outcome. I'm a registered Republican and this sounds fine to me.

Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President

Trump on Twatter: "To get into the Democrat National Convention, you must have an ID card with a picture...Yet the Democrats refuse to do this when it come to your very important VOTE! Gee, I wonder WHY???"

He doesn't seem to understand that it's all being held online.

Speaking of which, President Snowflake wants to be able to block people on Twitter using the spurious argument that it's actually his personal account which he uses to voice private not governmental speech:

Trump asks Supreme Court to let him block critics on Twitter | TheHill

I look forward to Trumps losing speech. It's going to be priceless.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Can't see that myself, Bernie is perceived to be more left than Biden and merely the mention of the word 'socialist' sends Republicans running for the fainting couch and smelling salts.

Quite a few Trump supporters liked Bernie in 2016. The fact is, in 2016 people wanted change. The Democrats chose to not give them a candidate that represented change, and the Republicans did (albeit for the worse). The Democrats have failed at realizing this.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

And also let's face it -- if there are any Republicans still left on the fence at this point they are clearly fucking idiots.

Would you rather fucking idiots vote for Trump or Biden? I thought the whole plan was to defeat Trump.

Originally Posted by Norton

Probably but I don't think enough to change the outcome. I'm a registered Republican and this sounds fine to me.

Like I said though Norts, like you, supporters of a ban are already voting for Biden. This will not help him.