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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Watch for the next created crisis. Maybe start a war would be good. Iran the likely candidate.
    That's been on the cards for a while so he can safely say he didn't 'start' it. The current US bogeyman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    The above along with many other states leave no doubt Trump and his campaign staff know they are going to lose so they are in the process of creating a crisis. Delegitimize or make it difficult for Biden supporters to vote. This is the current marching order although may have little effect on outcome. Watch for the next created crisis. Maybe start a war would be good. Iran the likely candidate.
    Forgive my poor English not allowing me to fully understand your comment: Who was the one meant of his "next create crisis" and who "maybe start a war"?
    Wondering who was the one who was at the helm when the last war (in Syria) was started and who was so active in the "war" in Ukraine? Just curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Wondering who was the one who was at the helm when the last war (in Syria) was started and who was so active in the "war" in Ukraine? Just curious...
    Vladimir Putin!! In both cases!

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    ^Bingo....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Wondering who was the one who was at the helm when the last war (in Syria) was started and who was so active in the "war" in Ukraine? Just curious...
    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Vladimir Putin!! In both cases!
    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^Bingo....
    And your point is?

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    lots of reporting out this weekend that the biden campaign is pushing the VP announcement to next week.

    probably a good idea.....what's the rush? they'll just be giving the trump campaign and its surrogates more time to smear the eventual pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Tammy still on the VP list I see. By far the best choice imo.
    I see her and Bass were on Fox last night (or maybe today).

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I see her and Bass were on Fox last night (or maybe today).
    Saw a bit of Bass. Her Cuba baggage response was a bit weak. Of all the candidates she would far down on my list. But my list don't mean shit.

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    IMO (which also doesn't mean shit), she's not qualified for the job or ready for the spotlight.

    in the back of his mind, biden has to be thinking about what happened to mccain when he picked palin....not saying bass is an airhead...rather putting his campaign ahead of the best interest of the country.

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    The search has been narrowed to five candidates apparently.

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    Duckworth is a little more charismatic and invokes empathy, Harris could be a wild card but may be perceived to help lock in the Black vote.

    I think it's a toss up between the two, but Biden's holding his cards close so who knows?

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    Trump campaign nears point of no return

    Time is running out on Donald Trump.

    While there are still 92 days until Election Day, the president has as little as half as much time to begin closing the gap with Joe Biden, according to interviews with nearly two dozen Republican and Democratic Party officials and strategists.

    Trump’s window is smaller — and his margin for error tighter — because of an expected surge in mail voting due to the coronavirus and because the electorate this year appears more hardened than in 2016, with fewer undecided voters to peel off in the closing days of the contest.

    Voters will begin receiving ballots in key swing states as early as next month. In North Carolina, elections officials will start sending ballots to voters on Sept. 4. Four more battleground states — Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida and Minnesota — will begin mailing ballots or start early voting by the end of September.

    All of that will happen before the first presidential debate, on Sept. 29. Arizona, Ohio and Iowa will start early voting right after, in the first seven days of October.

    “If I were running the Trump campaign, I would want to see a marked uptick by the beginning of October,” said Charlie Gerow, a Pennsylvania-based Republican strategist.

    Gerow, like many Republicans, believes the Republican president will outperform current polls on Election Day. But “clearly, with early voting,” he said, “the timeline is accelerated.”

    Trump’s concern about the timing and mechanics of the election was never plainer than on Thursday, when he suggested delaying it because of unsubstantiated claims about widespread mail voting fraud.

    The president has no authority to change the date. But he has good reason to be worried. While in a closer contest, the rigors of the election calendar would be felt more evenly by both campaigns, Trump has so much ground to make up in the polls that allowing Biden to lock down even a small portion of the early vote could be debilitating.

    Entering August, Trump trailed Biden by 7 percentage points in national polls, according to RealClearPolitics' polling average. Biden also holds an edge in nearly every swing state.

    For months, Trump’s hope for a rebound in public opinion polls rested on an expectation that the coronavirus would subside by fall, and that the economy would show signs of improvement. Neither has happened, and the race has stagnated, with Biden maintaining — or even expanding — on his leads.

    The one thing Trump needs most is time. “And that’s the one thing that he has none of with this calendar,” said Doug Herman, who was a lead mail strategist for Barack Obama's 2008 and 2012 campaigns.

    One prominent Republican strategist, noting the dates that ballots will be sent to voters in Florida and elsewhere, declined even to talk about the accelerated timeline of this election.

    “No,” he said. “It’s bad news.”

    The Trump campaign recognizes the calendar squeeze: On Monday, it is launching an ad offensive that will focus on the earlier voting states.

    Four years ago, Trump benefited from a longer runway with a less decisive electorate. About 13 percent of voters in 2016 said they made their decision between the candidates in the last week before the election, according to exit polls, with Trump carrying late deciders by about 3 percentage points.

    But the number of undecided voters is smaller than it was in 2016, now representing about 10 percent of the electorate, according to both Democratic and Republican internal polling. And the sliver of voters who are undecided or registered third party are more likely to support Biden than Trump, according to a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll, with 61 percent saying they would support Biden if they had to choose now.

    “Election Day is October 24 — 48 hours after the last debate,” Frank Luntz, the veteran Republican consultant and pollster, said in an email. “On that Sunday, people will wake up, have their coffee, go to church (or not) and make up their minds. On that day, the election is over.”

    One reason Republicans worry about mail voting is that Democrats have been outpacing them in mail ballot requests throughout the primaries and in the run-up to the general election in many states. In 2016, about 40 percent of voters cast ballots in person before Election Day or by mail, a number is expected to dramatically expand because of concerns about in-person voting amid a pandemic.

    In North Carolina, nearly six times as many voters had requested absentee ballots by last week as had at the same time in 2016, according to Michael Bitzer, a political science professor at Catawba College who is tracking the requests. And the increase overwhelmingly favors Democrats, who account for more than half of all requests. Republicans made up just 14 percent of requests, according to Bitzer, down from about 36 percent in 2016.

    Many of those voters will not immediately returntheir ballots, and it is difficult to predict when most ballots will besent in. In a normal year in California, a populous state with a traditional 29-day mail ballot period, about half of the total mail vote typically is returned about 10 days before Election Day, said Paul Mitchell of Political Data Inc., avoter data firm used by both Republicans and Democrats in California.

    Still, even a portion of the early vote could swing the election in competitive states decided by a relatively small number of votes.

    In Minnesota, where Trump lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016 by only about 45,000 votes, early voting will start on Sept. 18. “If you’re talking about just winning on the margins here, and it being a close election … if you don’t have your s--- together by Sept. 18, it’s going to be harder to catch up,” said Minnesota's Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party chairman, Ken Martin.

    In Arizona, where early voting starts Oct. 7, Steven Slugocki, Democratic Party chairman in the swing county of Maricopa, tells party activists that “Election Day is not Nov. 3. It’s October 7, and it goes until Nov. 3.”
    He said, “I tell people all the time: Literally, you could win or lose in that first week, three weeks before Election Day.”

    Republicans are scrambling to narrow Democrats’ mail voting advantage, with state and county parties appealing to voters to request mail ballots despite Trump’s rhetoric. In Minnesota, Republican phone-bankers are urging Trump supporters to request absentee ballots “so you can put more time and effort to helping our Republican candidates from President Trump and all GOP candidates up and down the ballot,” according to a call script obtained by POLITICO.

    Jack Brill, acting chairman of the local Republican Party in Sarasota County, Fla., said his county party has “spent a ton of money” trying to increase Republican mail voting rates, and his family registered to vote by mail “to help the numbers.”

    But Brill expects Republicans in his county will largely wait to swamp the polls on Election Day, as do party officials elsewhere. Jennifer Carnahan, chairwoman of the Minnesota Republican Party, said that while the party is making a “strong push” for absentee voting, “Election Day is still, as it stands now, the day when the majority of people vote.”

    Whenit comes to undecided voters, it is becoming increasingly apparent to Republicans that the later the decision is made, the better. It is still possible that conditions surrounding the virus will improve, and even if they do not, Trump could damage Biden in the debates. Biden has profited from a period of the campaign in which he has largely remained secluded at his Delawarehome.

    Phillip Stephens, the Republican Party chairman in Robeson County, one of several North Carolina counties that shifted from supporting Barack Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016, said the “urgency is being felt by both sides.” Democrats want people to vote now, while Biden is still “in the basement,” he said, while Republicans need “to push a decision to Election Day as much as possible.”

    But relying on Election Day voting can be hazardous. People forget to vote. Rain might diminish turnout. An outbreak of the coronavirus could scare away potential voters.

    “Trump is going to dominate among Election Day voters,” said the longtime Republican pollster Glen Bolger. “But what if there’s bad weather in a part of a key state, or there’s a coronavirus outbreak and voters say, ‘Nah, I’m not going to stand in line and vote.’”

    Rick Gorka, a Trump campaign spokesman, agreed that "Election Day isn't on Nov. 3. GOTV [get-out-the-vote] starts the day after Labor Day." But the Trump campaign disputes that the timeline is a problem for the president. If the election was held tomorrow, Gorka said, Trump would benefit from his large field and digital organization, which has been preparing for the general election — and making millions of door knocks and phone calls — since long before Biden became the nominee.

    “What team does Joe Biden have in place to do get-out-the-vote efforts? He doesn’t have one,” Gorka said. “And voters, for the most part, don’t just show up. … You have to beg, borrow, steal, annoy, persuade.”

    Trump is working against a Democratic apparatus that is furiously trying to put the election out of reach before Election Day. Through the Biden-Democratic National Committee coordinated campaign, there are now hundreds of field staffers working on early voting efforts across the battleground states, a DNC official said. Priorities USA, the Biden campaign’s preferred big-money vehicle, is preparing to spend heavily on digital ads in August pushing Democratic-leaning voters without a history of voting by mail to request mail-in ballots, part of a $24 million vote-by-mail and voter mobilization program.

    Patrick McHugh, Priorities’ executive director, said “Trump has a dwindling window of time” to turn the election in his favor. He put it at “about half the amount of time of the 100 days.”

    Trump campaign nears point of no return - POLITICO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Saw a bit of Bass. Her Cuba baggage
    Somebody with a Fidelism into WH? Then, better an InFidel...

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    Of course there is still an opportunity for Biden to royally put his foot in it in any of the debates.

    This will surely be keeping his campaign awake at night.

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    As the article states above lots of people will be voting early this year by mail some even before the first debate. I know as soon as my ballot comes in the mail it will be sent right back out. I do not give two shits about what happens in the debates as long as Biden doesn't drop dead.

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    and if you look back at biden's one-on-one debate with bernie, he did quite well....and trump has set the bar so low, that it should be easy for biden to clear it.

    also keep in mind that recent incumbent presidents generally haven't done well in the first debate....it's the first time in a long time that anyone has gotten in their face and told them that they're wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    also keep in mind that recent incumbent presidents generally haven't done well in the first debate
    These debates will not be the same as the GOP primary in 2016. Drumpf has tons and tons of scandal and failed policy to pick apart. He is in a 10-foot hole before the debate even starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    and if you look back at biden's one-on-one debate with bernie, he did quite well....and trump has set the bar so low, that it should be easy for biden to clear it.

    also keep in mind that recent incumbent presidents generally haven't done well in the first debate....it's the first time in a long time that anyone has gotten in their face and told them that they're wrong.
    That was four years ago.

    Biden seems to trip up by trying to talk too fast. I wish he'd slow down a bit and then he's less likely to fuck up, which is the risk. He's kept the count down to nil since his "You ain't black" fiasco, but there's still scope for a clanger in the debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That was four years ago.
    it was just over 4 months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Drumpf has tons and tons of scandal and failed policy to pick apart. He is in a 10-foot hole before the debate even starts.
    If he is well coached and stays focused he can put Trump continuously on the defensive. He needs to sidestep Trump's attacks and keep the focus on Trump and his failures and lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    He needs to sidestep Trump's attacks and keep the focus on Trump and his failures and lies.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    it was just over 4 months ago.
    Apologies, a Biden-style howler there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    If he is well coached and stays focused he can put Trump continuously on the defensive. He needs to sidestep Trump's attacks and keep the focus on Trump and his failures and lies.
    It's not like he hasn't got a huge amount of material from which to pick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's not like he hasn't got a huge amount of material from which to pick.
    Yes, but he needs to zero in on four major themes.

    The key is pound Trump on his incompetence, his corrupt self-dealing, his obstruction of justice and his responsibility for the huge failure of the US covid response resulting in what will likely be 170,000 plus lives by the time of the debates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    his responsibility for the huge failure of the US covid response resulting in what will likely be 170,000 plus lives by the time of the debates.
    That should be front and center.

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