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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    his biggest concern post jan 2021 is the SDNY case that's waiting for him.
    a couple of hours ago trump tried to fire the head of the SDNY....he says he's not leaving.

    this is going to get interesting.



    Late-night chaos at DOJ as U.S. attorney insists he's not leaving - POLITICO

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    this is going to get interesting.
    Indeed. He is starting to see the writing on the wall that it is looking less and less likely that he will win in November. So panic is starting to set in.

    Lock him up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    a couple of hours ago trump tried to fire the head of the SDNY....he says he's not leaving.

    this is going to get interesting.
    He says he's not leaving until a replacement is confirmed.

    Which doesn't detract from the fact that this is yet more obstruction of justice.

    I'm starting to get the impression that the founder fathers were a bit fucking thick putting the Department of Justice under presidential control.
    Last edited by harrybarracuda; 20-06-2020 at 02:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm starting to get the impression that the founder fathers were a bit fucking thick putting the Department of Justice under presidential control.
    under which branch of govt would you have it?

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    Even old Joe is starting to look rather decent currently. In comparison, anything will do.

    Aside from this circus, have to wonder if it's way past due for the American process/system to be scrapped and renewed for the better.
    Such course of actions are suggested within the Constitution.
    The dreamy experiment ain't working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So while Oklohama is reporting a surge in infections, baldy is hosting a rally.
    I say rather than encourage rally goers to wear masks, do the opposite. Maybe the entire lot will get sick n croak.

    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Heard to day on a report, some one said that about 40% of people will vote for him, come what may.
    Might get down to 30%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    I say rather than encourage rally goers to wear masks, do the opposite. Maybe the entire lot will get sick n croak.
    One can only hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Lock him up.

    You want that before or after he loses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cisco999 View Post
    You want that before or after he loses?
    Either one would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    under which branch of govt would you have it?
    Well it's not going anywhere, is it?

    But Judicial or independent.

    Right now it's basically baldy orange cunto's legal team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Well it's not going anywhere, is it?
    no.



    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But Judicial or independent.
    my memory is hazy on this, but there wasn't a DOJ until the civil war (so hard to blame it on the founders) and it was passed into law to be part of the executive by congress.

    nutters go off about the independent federal reserve...can you imagine what they'd do with an independent law enforcement entity? and don't even ask skkin about black helicopters.


    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Right now it's basically baldy orange cunto's legal team.
    people like to think otherwise, but that's more or less how it's always been ....after nixon's saturday night massacre, presidents started viewing the DOJ as a third rail (at least in public)....and i don't think anyone could have imagined someone so criminal and bereft of morals to ever accede to the presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    and i don't think anyone could have imagined someone so criminal and bereft of morals to ever accede to the presidency.
    Well maybe they foresaw that on its own, but I doubt they ever envisaged him being backed by a bunch of like-minded, amoral, self-serving crooks in the House.

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    ^
    i think you meant senate...and that is something that will almost certainly be remembered by history....and not in flattering terms.

    they all abandoned their alleged principles and quickly fell into line....because they were afraid of an angry tweet.

    it will be vomit-inducing to see how they'll try to spin it in 2021 if trump loses.

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    By this time tomorrow night 30-40,000 Trump supporter will have gathered in Tulsa Oklahoma. Most of them jam packed into an indoor arena, the others crowded close together watching mega screen TV's outside. Covid is spiking in Tulsa. What happens in the next week is going to be one heck of a big deal. Seems to me odds are a knock out blow is coming one way or the other. Could Trump be rolling the dice early going against science? There is no spike after the rally, or Corona catastrophe hits Tulsa after Trump rally.

    Big week coming up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Big week coming up.
    Let us hope Darwin plays a role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Let us hope Darwin plays a role.
    Pretty sure I have posted about that, but more than agreed.

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    Will he go?

    Will Trump leave the Presidency if he is not re-elected in the forthcoming Election?

    Interesting interview with Amherst Law Professor and author of the election disaster book "Will He Go?", Lawrence Douglas.

    The interview examines many/most of the possible options available to Trump, the GOP and the Democrats should Trump not be re-elected ... refusing to concede.

    It's on Facebook, but easily viewed this this link ... ABC Planet America - Extended Interview - Lawrence Douglas | Facebook


    One of the major points of contention could be if the Postal Votes are challenged through the various mechanisms available.
    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    By this time tomorrow night 30-40,000 Trump supporter will have gathered in Tulsa Oklahoma. Most of them jam packed into an indoor arena, the others crowded close together watching mega screen TV's outside. Covid is spiking in Tulsa. What happens in the next week is going to be one heck of a big deal. Seems to me odds are a knock out blow is coming one way or the other. Could Trump be rolling the dice early going against science? There is no spike after the rally, or Corona catastrophe hits Tulsa after Trump rally.

    Big week coming up.
    So turns out thousands of empty seats and no one outside (thanks to fake media of course)
    Pity, if they were shoulder to shoulder coughing and sneezing all over each other covid would have a much better chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    So turns out thousands of empty seats and no one outside
    In Trump-speak: Millions gathered, the largest rally ever

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    Don't call it a comeback: Trump's Tulsa rally was just another sad farce.
    Campaign officials should be ready for firings and fury after a pathetic event made worse by wretched attempted excuses


    The upper section is seen partially empty as Donald Trump speaks at the BOK Center in Tulsa.

    There have been so many reasons to feel embarrassed about Donald Trump.


    There was the time he paid off a porn star. There was the time he lied about the size of his inauguration crowd. The time he talked about the big water around Puerto Rico. The time he thought you could kill the coronavirus by injecting yourself with bleach.

    But nothing truly comes close to the embarrassment of his so-called comeback rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on Saturday.

    It was so toe-curlingly cringeworthy, such a crushing humiliation. There are 80s pop bands who have enjoyed greater comebacks than Donald Trump.

    To understand how much of his insides will always melt at the thought of that Tulsa rally, it’s worth quoting Trump’s fine words just before he boarded Marine One at the White House.

    “The event in Oklahoma is unbelievable,” he boasted. “The crowds are unbelievable. They haven’t seen anything like it. And we will go there now. We’ll give a, hopefully, good speech. We’re going to see a lot of great people, a lot of great friends. And pretty much, that’s it. OK?”

    Trump got punked by several hundred thousand TikTok users, organized by a grandmother in Fort Dodge, Iowa
    We really haven’t seen anything like that. For a man who loves peddling superlatives, this was the worst measure of his oh-so-sad popularity. The lowest point in electoral incompetence. The saddest campaign fiasco.

    The event in Oklahoma was literally unbelievable if you believe that the Trump campaign is competent, and that Trump himself is actually popular. That’s the weird thing about our populist president: his approval ratings have never cracked 50% and are now stuck firmly in the low 40s. Perhaps that’s why he’s trailing Joe Biden by double-digits in recent polls.

    As Trump likes to say: Pretty much, that’s it. At least it is for everyone grifting at the Trump campaign. Especially Brad Parscale, the Ferrari-driving manager who went from website builder to social media genius in 2016 but who now faces an imminent return to his website-building career, after predicting a monster rally in Tulsa.

    Parscale bragged about “over 1m ticket requests” earlier this week, a number he was so confident about that he built an outdoor event stage for Trump to talk to the massive overflow crowd. That was the day after Parscale tweeted about the “biggest data haul and rally signup of all time by 10x. Saturday is going to be amazing!”

    Brad, it was indeed amazing. You got punked by several hundred thousand TikTok users, organized by a grandmother in Fort Dodge, Iowa.

    Mary Jo Laupp was apparently so upset by the original date and place of Trump’s rally – the city where one of America’s worst racist massacres took place, in 1921 – that she asked people to sign up for the rally and not show up.

    Laupp only joined TikTok earlier this year, but her call connected with thousands of K-Pop fans who are what Trump might call a silent majority.

    Trump knows as much about Korean pop as he does about the Tulsa massacre and Juneteenth, the original date of his epic comeback rally. Of course he had to ask a black Secret Service agent to explain the meaning of Juneteenth, the holiday marking the emancipation of enslaved people.

    “I did something good: I made Juneteenth very famous,” he told the Wall Street Journal. “It’s actually an important event, an important time. But nobody had ever heard of it.”

    As it happened, nobody has ever heard of Trump’s comeback either. That’s in Oklahoma, a state he won by 36 points in 2016. A state no Democratic presidential nominee has won since 1964.

    Perhaps the Secret Service could do Trump another favor by explaining how his official excuse for the miserable crowds is even more laughable than all that bragging about MAGA fans.

    “Sadly protesters interfered with supporters, even blocking access to the metal detectors, which prevented people from entering the rally,” said Tim Murtaugh, a campaign spokesman who should urgently seek alternative employment.

    CNN reporters estimated there were around 175 protesters in Tulsa, so few, in fact, that the sidewalks were clear. Pool reporters traveling with the presidential motorcade said they saw no protesters or supporters en route.

    This is the second time in one week that Trump has blown up his own campaign. If the geniuses running his train-wreck of a re-election had any argument against Biden it was this: Biden was soft on China and too unpopular to build a crowd.

    But then came John Bolton’s book, revealing Trump’s bootlicking approach to being tough on China. Trump told Xi Jinping he was the greatest leader in Chinese history, which is quite a long time, according to the Secret Service.

    Then the campaign was readying the most awesome contrast between the Tulsa rally and Biden’s socially-distanced campaigning. “Barely There Biden” was supposed to be the sequel to “Beijing Biden”.

    There’s something else that’s barely there: Trump supporters.

    To be fair, if they weren’t discouraged by the many dozens of protesters, Trump’s multitude of Maga-heads might have been discouraged by the pandemic that is now surging in, um, Tulsa.

    The Trump White House and campaign would love its fans to pretend the pandemic has disappeared, like a miracle, just as Trump said it would. Sadly six of their own staffers tested positive for the virus on the day of the Tulsa rally, so this is a miracle that is moving as quickly as a president shuffling down a ramp.

    Trump told the crowd at great length why he couldn’t possibly walk down a ramp unaided. He even re-enacted his walk down the deadly incline. He also treated them to a long excuse about why he couldn’t hold a glass of water with one hand. It apparently has something to do with protecting his expensive silk tie. Man of the people, that Trump guy.

    Just as well he didn’t try to heal the nation’s racial divide. He might have tried to re-enact something far worse.

    For the half-filled arena (capacity, 19,000), it was hardly worth risking infection for this mask-free, fact-free and momentum-free event.

    “I wish they would spread out a bit,” said CNN’s doctor-in-chief Sanjay Gupta. “It looks like they have the space to do so.”

    Soon there will be even more space freed up at Trump’s campaign headquarters. Team Trump: don’t bother planning another rally. You are about to lose your job.
    Don't call it a comeback: Trump's Tulsa rally was just another sad farce | Richard Wolffe | Opinion | The Guardian

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    2020 US Presidential Race-screen-shot-2020-06-21-16-a


    One hopes she doesn't get it but if she does then it was God's will . . .

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    Why does a cop need to march around with weapons like that . . . at a rally. And then one wonders when people get shot - morons

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    There are obviously some TD posters in attendance

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post




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    Why does a cop need to march around with weapons like that . . . at a rally. And then one wonders when people get shot - morons




    Anyone know what type of weapon that is?

    Another photo:

    2020 US Presidential Race-tulsa-pd-remove-protester-i-cant

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    Will be interesting to take note as to what old, very conventional, Joe's policies and actions will be [we're surely assuming that he'll be elected in November, yes?]

    Stay the course of the establishment tradition?
    Same as it ever was...??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Anyone know what type of weapon that is?

    Another photo:

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    Paintball gun. Read about it earlier. Good idea. They sting without actually blowing anyone's brains out.

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    Finally a sensible TRUMP supporter taking the “kung flu” (Covid-19) social distancing seriously!



    He's even got a mask on!

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