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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    and we concentrate on Biden's lapses, which are minuscule compared to Trump
    They are serious enough, if people can't be bothered to vote for him

    It is simply not enough, that Biden seems more sane than Trump

    We all are

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    They are serious enough, if people can't be bothered to vote for him
    True, very true


    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    It is simply not enough, that Biden seems more sane than Trump
    Also true . . . but it should be, considering the alternative of four more years of this idiot . . . and it's not just that he is the leader of the US, rather that his actions affect everyone

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    I see your point, and always have

    I do however believe that americans deserve a fresh start, and Biden ain't it


    Luckily I don't have to vote for either, and I couldn't ask the americans to endure four more years, and watch their country implode, even if it was for the "greater good".

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    I do however believe that americans deserve a fresh start, and Biden ain't it
    Indeed. We sit on the sidelines and relatively little affects us directly, but having grown up and worked and lived in the US for quite a number of years I have a few friends and acquaintances in the US for whom life has changed quite a bit . . . and not for the better.

    The US needs a Bernie to change the direction the US has been going for the last few decades, to effect change for the positive of the population, not big business.
    The US needs a Biden now to turn back from this idiocy of Trump, but it will then become complacent about the need for change again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    Trump has good game when whipping up his red hats, but can he get the number of independents that voted for him back in 2016 again?

    Will Biden go full dementia and blow it during the debates and interviews?

    I think it might be close again this time around.
    Seems a pretty good assessment to me.

    And if Trump wins again it has gone well past the point of 'Independents' and Dems getting what they deserve (the whole country for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Indeed. We sit on the sidelines and relatively little affects us directly, but having grown up and worked and lived in the US for quite a number of years I have a few friends and acquaintances in the US for whom life has changed quite a bit . . . and not for the better.

    The US needs a Bernie to change the direction the US has been going for the last few decades, to effect change for the positive of the population, not big business.
    The US needs a Biden now to turn back from this idiocy of Trump, but it will then become complacent about the need for change again


    Yet, a single individual [less a fresh face President] or a suddenly epiphanic style of government cannot or will not ever bring change or difference. As they wouldn't allow such things to manifest, anyway.
    Any real positive strides of change has to come from the society. And that ain't gonna happen when an overwhelming percentage of the population are firmly conditioned/dumbed down.

    It still gets down to: they're all one and the same.
    How reasoned and intelligent folks are unable to comprehend all this is certainly beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Any real positive strides of change has to come from the society.
    Absolutely right

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    ^ok...but nearly ever other (decipherable) part of his post was flat out wrong.


    FOJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    ^ok...but nearly ever other (decipherable) part of his post was flat out wrong.
    Ah, credit where credit is due, RC . You know you want to say 'Well done, Jeff'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Indeed. We sit on the sidelines and relatively little affects us directly, but having grown up and worked and lived in the US for quite a number of years I have a few friends and acquaintances in the US for whom life has changed quite a bit . . . and not for the better.

    The US needs a Bernie to change the direction the US has been going for the last few decades, to effect change for the positive of the population, not big business.
    The US needs a Biden now to turn back from this idiocy of Trump, but it will then become complacent about the need for change again

    Just curious as to how life has changed for the worse for your American friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Just curious as to how life has changed for the worse for your American friends.
    Is Fox still telling you coronavirus is a Democrat hoax then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Just curious as to how life has changed for the worse for your American friends.

    Wealth gap has widened. Medical bankruptcies have increased. Polluters are allowed to increase emissions. Farmers are suffering. Manufacturers are suffering.

    Billionaires are paying less taxes, so those Americans are doing fine with the changes, I guess.

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    Maybe repeater is a billionaire . . . or a mushroom living in the dark who thrives on shit heaped on him

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Maybe repeater is a billionaire . . . or a mushroom living in the dark who thrives on shit heaped on him
    He's a trumpanzee. 'Nuff said.

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    he got a raw deal in '16....glad to see he made the right decision now....must have been hard.

    he can take solace in the fact that he moved the country to the left on several issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    And then there was one.
    "Experts" over here keeps talking about the New York governor

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    "Experts" over here keeps talking about the New York governor
    He has repeatedly said he won't.

    Fox are probably preparing horror stories about people who have pierced nipples just in case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    "Experts" over here keeps talking about the New York governor
    I would love to see that happen, but as Harry said, he has repeatedly said he’s not interested.

    I think he would make an awesome president. If you’ve watched his response to the crisis in New York, and then contrast that with Trump, I think there’s no question that he would win, easily.

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    Agreed .

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    I would like to take this time to extend my condolences to bsnub on his recent loss.


    RIP candidate Bernie Sanders

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    "Experts" over here keeps talking about the New York governor

    Who are these experts?

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    Coronavirus will get Trump, not Biden or anyone else

    maybe an independent like Bloomberg could have done it, but he chose the wrong path, again

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    I would like to take this time to extend my condolences to bsnub on his recent loss.


    RIP candidate Bernie Sanders

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    the only hope america had

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