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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    just to clarify....i'd be quite happy to have bernie as president. i agree with him many, many issues.

    i just don't think he's the best candidate to beat trump....and for me, that's paramount.
    From what we saw of Biden in the last debate, even Baldy would have no trouble making him look inept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    i just don't think he's the best candidate to beat trump....and for me, that's paramount.
    I think that Biden has been terrible in all of the debates so far. Imagine how terrible he could look against the orange moron. I think that Biden could tank after the first presidential debate and never recover. Bernie will never relent debating the cheeto in chief and will hound him the entire time about his record since being elected. No it is Bernie who can beat that moron. There is no one else. Remember my words.

    Droppings...



    2020 Watch: Can the establishment stop Bernie Sanders? - SFGate
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    interesting graph on media spending over the past year....

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    Insane numbers . . .

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    Analysis 1/4

    Donald Trump is impeached, but rejection by the establishment is the reason his supporters love him


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    Standing outside Congress at 3am, cheeks red, nose dripping, fingers and toes numb, I stare into the camera and think to myself, "what have I got myself into?"
    The weather app on my phone tells me it's minus-5C degrees, but "feels like" minus-12C.


    I'm about to go live into the 7pm News to talk about Donald Trump's impeachment, the second biggest story of his presidency, right behind the election itself.

    It's my first story as a new member of ABC's Washington Bureau.



    I'm getting to know why Americans love Donald Trump

    It can be hard for an outsider like myself to comprehend how Mr Trump's support has remained so rock-solid.

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    His polling numbers have remained steady through all the "scandals" and despite his concerted attacks on the democratic institutions that have kept America strong for centuries.
    It's even harder to grasp how half of Americans think it's OK for the President to engage, even pressure, a foreign nation to announce an investigation into a domestic political rival.
    But to understand the United States as we head into 2020, you have to get to know Mr Trump's voters.

    The vast bulk of them are not dummies or racists or low-class, as they are so often portrayed in the press.

    Labelling them as "deplorables" was perhaps the second biggest mistake the Democrats made in 2016, right behind choosing Hillary Clinton as their candidate to take on Mr Trump in the first place.


    From my early reading of the battlefield, Trump voters are, by and large, everyday working-class Americans who have been ignored by Republicans and taken for granted by Democrats for as long as they can remember.


    Donald Trump is impeached, but rejection by the establishment is the reason his supporters love him - Donald Trump's America - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Now Mr Trump speaks directly to them

    More importantly, they are experiencing the best job prospects in decades.
    Black and Latino unemployment is the lowest on record.


    Wall Street stocks continue to enjoy the longest bull market in American history.
    It doesn't matter that significant credit for this should go to the Obama administration, for setting the foundations for recovery after the Global Financial Crisis.

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    Some economists say America's current economic stability is due to measures taken by the Obama administration.


    The lived experience of boom times is happening under Mr Trump.
    What would a voter, who has a job for the first time in years, care that their preferred President tried to take down a political rival?
    Isn't that what Washington politics is all about?



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    And while we're at it, they may ask, why was Hunter Biden paid $50,000 a month to work in Ukraine in a field in which he had no experience, while his father was vice-president?

    By going after largesse like that, isn't Mr Trump doing exactly what he said he'd do: Draining the swamp?

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    These are not illegitimate questions for Trump voters to ask



    Just as important as understanding the mindset of the people who elected the President, is keeping eyes on the information flow they base their views on.

    That means watching a lot of Fox News.

    Compared to CNN, the New York Times and the Washington Post, it's a parallel universe.
    The most popular shows usually feature a conga line of Republican voices, with barely a peep from Democrats, unless that peep happens to be embarrassing to them.

    Despite the fact it's privately owned, Fox News appears to be the closest thing to a propaganda arm of government outside of North Korea or Russia.
    It's also the most watched news channel, by far.

    You may not see it on Fox, but the evidence that led to Mr Trump's impeachment matters.

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    And what's happening to America under Mr Trump matters


    What he does matters, too.
    His attacks on the establishment, the free press, law enforcement, career diplomats and respected bureaucrats, that have the temerity to hold him to account, are having a corrosive effect on American democracy as we know it.
    It's straight from the playbook of dictators the world over.

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    This week, I met Kim Fellner on the fringes of a pro-impeachment rally on the lawns of Congress.
    Quietly holding a home-made sign calling President Trump "NOT GREAT", she stood quietly facing the historic dome of the Capitol building.

    "My parents were Holocaust survivors," she told me.
    "So, we really understand what fascism is. And also, that it begins with small steps. This administration has taken many small steps in that direction."


    To be clear, Mr Trump is a long way from being a fascist dictator.
    The pillars of democracy, chipped and broken as they are, continue to hold strong.



    But if a dictator or despot emerges from all of this noise, we will look back at the Trump presidency for answers as to how America allowed so many "small steps".


    ENDS

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    4 posts for one article that nobody cares about.


    anyway...


    Joe Biden scored the endorsement Saturday of a major transit union that officially backed Bernie Sanders in 2016.


    “Joe has been very supportive of the labor movement for the last 40 years. He stands for working families. We recognize he’s a great candidate,” John Costa, international president of the 200,000-member Amalgamated Transit Union, told POLITICO. “We think Joe can beat Donald Trump.”

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    The prospect of a second Trump term in the White House proved too troubling to the union for them to wager on Sanders.


    “We appreciate Sen. Sanders,” Costa said. “We don’t want to say anything bad about him. But this is about beating Trump and our members believe Joe is the best one to do it.”
    Major union flips support from Sanders to Biden - POLITICO

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    Fucking sellouts

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    ^ the DNC is not fucking around this time. not saying it's right, but IMO you should expect more hardball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
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    The lived experience of boom times is happening under Mr Trump.
    Fake economy. 2019 Trump deficit was $1 trillion USD. 2020 will be a repeat of it. Manufacturing and farming sectors in the US economy have been burned to the ground. No increase in real wages as corporate profits soar. And economists will tell you that the stock market is not the economy.
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    Fuck Biden and fuck Clinton supporters like Ray.


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    ^
    you're going to hurt my feelings.

    what is 'rising'?

    and is her name really krystal ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    you're going to hurt my feelings.
    I don't care and we both know that you can take it. You are DNC established old school. Biden is a trainwreck. The DNC is protecting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    you're going to hurt my feelings.
    I don't care and we both know that you can take it. You are DNC established old school. Biden is a trainwreck. The DNC is protecting him.


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    Jesus Christ Snubby,

    Take a fookin break mate,,

    Ya gunna stroke out eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Biden is a trainwreck.
    Could have been better
    Too bad your candidate is real old

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Too bad your candidate is real old
    The orange moron is 73 and morbidly obese so some would argue that is worse than age. BTW Biden is just as old as Bernie.

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    where are the Bernie back to the future memes ?

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    Bernie's Achilles' heel which unless he moderates all his "free" stuff will prevent him beating Trump. Let's not forget Democrats main issue is beating Trump. Doubt most will decide Bernie can.

    "The Urban Institute, a center-left think tank highly respected among Democrats, is projecting that a plan similar to what Warren and Senator Bernie Sanders are pushing would require $34 trillion in additional federal spending over its first decade in operation. That’s more than the federal government’s total cost over the coming decade for Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid combined"

    The High Cost of Warren and Sanders's Single-Payer Plan - The Atlantic

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    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Bernie's Achilles' heel which unless he moderates all his "free" stuff will prevent him beating Trump. Let's not forget Democrats main issue is beating Trump. Doubt most will decide Bernie can.
    As nice as everything sounds as a good a candidate he my be . . . the sole aim is to get the orange afterbirth out of the white house and get Congress and the Senate safely in Dem hands.

    As much as I like Bernie, Biden is the best candidate to make this happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    orange afterbirth
    Like that!

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