Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

of course it will, but somehow the Dems believe in miracles or maybe Jesus

Shhhh, the adults are talking, if I want a Trumptards' opinion I'll ask Fox News.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Not if he doesn't run when the DemMachine has picked the candidate

So hold on, he's spending hundreds of millions of dollars promoting himself as a presidential candidate to achieve.... what exactly?

Originally Posted by raycarey

he won't win the general election for almost as many reasons that he won't win the dem nomination...and they're not the same reasons.

bloomberg is smart enough to know that he can't win...which is why he didn't run in 2016. i don't doubt he'd love to be president if the stars were to align, but they're not going to and he knows it.

he is running for one reason only....to help defeat trump.

that's it.

Then why isn't he just funding the candidate he thinks is most likely to win?

Your theory makes no sense whatsoever.

Added: He's spent $170 million including $10 million on a Superbowl spot.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Isn't he risking splitting the vote though?

just a guess, but i think he'll shut down his campaign after super tuesday....but the key point to remember is that he's going to keep paying ALL of his staff to keep working through election day no matter what happens to his campaign.

AFAIK, this has never been done before....and he's got some well respected people working for him.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Then why isn't he just funding the candidate he thinks is most likely to win?

he's a moderate, and he hopes to help shift the party away from the progressive wing. he'll support whoever wins the nomination, but he wants it to be a moderate. at the end of the day, he's a super rich guy who isn't interested in much that sanders or warren has to say about capitalism or wealth distribution.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Added: He's spent $170 million including $10 million on a Superbowl spot.

have you seen the ads he's run?
they're designed to weaken trump by comparing the two of them....the portray bloomberg as an actual billionaire who made it all by himself...as someone who created loads of jobs in his real company....and that he's level headed. trump was given a family business by his father which employs a handful of employees.

and btw, with a net worth of $60 billion, bloomberg could find 170 million behind his couch cushions.....and he's already pledged to spend a billion to defeat trump....whether he's the nominee or not.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Your theory makes no sense whatsoever.

that's why you should stick to copy & pasting cartoons.

and...
in addition to being and wanting to support a moderate nominee, he likely thinks that warren and sanders can't beat trump.

it's all about beating trump.

Originally Posted by raycarey

he's a super rich guy who isn't interested in much that sanders or warren has to say about capitalism or wealth distribution.

He is a fucking scumbag and he has stated that he is running to try to keep Bernie out of the WH. I would bet that the shitbag would prefer to have another 4 years of the orange moron rather than a true progressive in office. Fuck him. BTW we who support Bernie are tired of this shit. He is the only person that can defeat the orange moron. Biden is a walking corpse at this point and he has proven it time and again. To all of you haters....

U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders has been steadily climbing in popularity this year and is now tied with former Vice President Joe Biden for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination among registered voters, according to a Reuters/Ipsos national poll.

The online poll, released Thursday, shows that 20% of registered Democrats and independents said they would back Sanders over 11 other candidates to run in the general election against President Donald Trump, an increase of 2 percentage points from a similar poll that ran last week.

Another 19% supported Biden, 12% said they would vote for Senator Elizabeth Warren, 9% backed former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and 6% said they would support Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

Sanders and Bloomberg have increased their level of support in each of the last three Reuters/Ipsos polls starting in mid-December, while support for Biden, Warren and Buttigieg has remained flat.

The poll also shows that about one in five potential primary voters remain undecided. And among those who have picked, nearly two out of three say they are open to changing their minds.

Sanders, an independent who built a national network of fervent supporters while running for the party’s nomination in 2016, has consistently ranked among the most popular candidates since he entered the race.

The poll shows that standing does not appear to have been hurt by his recent confrontation with Warren over Sanders’ views of women and politics.

Warren, who is aligned with Sanders on a variety of issues, has accused him of telling her in 2018 that a woman could not be elected president. Sanders disputes that claim, and the two sniped at each other after this week’s presidential debate about how they were framing the conversation in public.

The dispute has the potential to reconfigure a Democratic nomination race that has stagnated for months with no single candidate emerging as the clear front-runner.

According to Reuters/Ipsos polling from December to January, women are the party’s biggest swing group: they are more than twice as likely as men to say they are undecided about which candidate to support. Among those women who have picked a candidate, nearly two out of three say they are open to changing their minds.

So far, Sanders’ and Warren’s support remains unchanged among women, with about 15% supporting Sanders and 11% supporting Warren.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted in English throughout the United States from Jan. 15-16. It gathered responses from 681 Democrats and independents, including 552 who were registered to vote. The poll has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of about 5 percentage points.

Sanders climbs, now tied with Biden among registered voters: Reuters poll - Reuters

Bernie will deliver in the key swing states that the cheet-o in chief won last time. His populist message is genuine and most of these areas are strong union with a long history of voting democratic and he can get those people back better than any other candidate.

Feel the Bern bitches!

Originally Posted by bsnub

He is a fucking scumbag

harsh, but yeah he's undeniably done some scummy things...and truth be told, a few good things too.

Originally Posted by bsnub

he has stated that he is running to try to keep Bernie out of the WH

i know the sanders campaign believes this, but i haven't seen a quote from bloomberg that supports it. btw, i already posted above that i believe it.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I would bet that the shitbag would prefer to have another 4 years of the orange moron rather than a true progressive in office.

i disagree.
he thinks trump is a disgrace that needs to be stopped no matter what.
if it came down to it, i think he'd bite his tongue and support sanders

Originally Posted by bsnub

He is the only person that can defeat the orange moron.

i disagree.
i think sanders, warren, biden and klobuchar could beat trump....but IMO biden has the best odds of the four.

Originally Posted by raycarey

i think sanders, warren, biden and klobuchar could beat trump....but IMO biden has the best odds of the four.

Ditto

With a Biden Klobuchar ticket (her not having to be VP for two terms) the orange buffoon would crumble

Originally Posted by raycarey

but IMO biden has the best odds of the four.

Nope but you go with the status quo candidate. Fuck that.

Originally Posted by raycarey

he's a moderate, and he hopes to help shift the party away from the progressive wing. he'll support whoever wins the nomination, but he wants it to be a moderate. at the end of the day, he's a super rich guy who isn't interested in much that sanders or warren has to say about capitalism or wealth distribution.




have you seen the ads he's run?
they're designed to weaken trump by comparing the two of them....the portray bloomberg as an actual billionaire who made it all by himself...as someone who created loads of jobs in his real company....and that he's level headed. trump was given a family business by his father which employs a handful of employees.

and btw, with a net worth of $60 billion, bloomberg could find 170 million behind his couch cushions.....and he's already pledged to spend a billion to defeat trump....whether he's the nominee or not.




that's why you should stick to copy & pasting cartoons.

What a load of utter bollocks.

You live in a fantasy world if you think he's spending all this money just to make Trump look bad for the other candidates.

And you haven't answered the question of why he isn't backing one of them instead of pushing his own candidacy.

Waffle on, Ray.

A sample Bloomberg spot that mentions baldy orange cunto..... 0 times.

(apart from a brief shot of Baldy's hovel when he talks about taxes).

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So hold on, he's spending hundreds of millions of dollars promoting himself as a presidential candidate to achieve.... what exactly?

the adults in a Presidential thread? wake the fuck up

anyway, you are right, pointless to discuss, Trumpette will win and you will be all disappointed again

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And you haven't answered the question of why he isn't backing one of them instead of pushing his own candidacy.

so you think someone like bloomberg is going to essentially gamble it on one of the candidates who could be knocked out for any number of reasons before the first primary or caucus. sure, that makes complete sense. good plan, harry.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You live in a fantasy world if you think he's spending all this money just to make Trump look bad for the other candidates.

quite frankly, it's not at all surprising that you just don't get it.
keep playing checkers, harry.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Nope but you go with the status quo candidate. Fuck that.

if i were caucusing in iowa next month, he wouldn't be my first choice. but i'd probably move to him in the second round (and definitely the 3rd) if my choice didn't meet the viability threshold.

status quo or not....biden will get union voters, black voters, women voters, young voters....and most importantly, voters who have had enough of the craziness and want to reset back to normalcy.

of the candidates still in the race, IMO he has the best chance to get to 270 against trump.

Originally Posted by raycarey

quite frankly, it's not at all surprising that you just don't get it.
keep playing checkers, harry.

The reason I don't get it Ray is that it's the sort of absurd nonsense that I'd expect OhOh to churn out.

I don't think Bloomberg is playing some sort of 3-D chess here. He wants to bring a moderate voice to the field and he really thinks Trump is an awful President. It's that simple. I am sure with his funding he will support whichever candidate wins the nomination in the end, but in the meantime he's running for himself.

As an uninformed Brit bystander who has heard how much Dems are disgusted by the lack social care investment, just exactly how much money is being consumed in this election process? Not a complaint just interested.

Edit

Peanuts just a mere $1.6BN is 2016 - fukin obscene imo

although a mere $5 when you break it down per person so an utter bargain

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

just exactly how much money is being consumed in this election process?

The amount of money burned in the electoral process is an absolute abomination and should not be allowed. The candidate I support (Sanders) wants to remove money and special interests from politics entirely something that I very much support. That is something that the Republicans and the right in America will fight to the last breath as the money allows them to buy many elections. The last thing they want is a fair fight.

Originally Posted by bsnub

(Sanders) wants to remove money and special interests from politics entirely something that I very much support.

But that's something what the population love in their humdrum lives...
...and the "special interest's people" love it either...
WMD - Weapon of Mass Distraction

Originally Posted by Klondyke

WMD - Weapon of Mass Distraction

The Mayas and their calendars

Zulu wars

Black plague

New buildings in Damansara

Tahiti

Gregorian chants


It's fun posting unadulterated and incomprehensible bullshit . . . now I see Klondyke's methdology, it's actually MacBook Air John Deere Tractors

Originally Posted by bsnub

The candidate I support (Sanders) wants to remove money and special interests from politics entirely something that I very much support.

as you know, SCOTUS has already ruled on citizen's united. unless there are a string of deaths or he packs the court, it's not going to happen.

i've been reading about 'tio bernie' and his efforts to win california....and whether or not he should gracefully drop out if he doesn't win CA, IA or NH.