Shhhh, the adults are talking, if I want a Trumptards' opinion I'll ask Fox News.Originally Posted by Dragonfly
Shhhh, the adults are talking, if I want a Trumptards' opinion I'll ask Fox News.Originally Posted by Dragonfly
just a guess, but i think he'll shut down his campaign after super tuesday....but the key point to remember is that he's going to keep paying ALL of his staff to keep working through election day no matter what happens to his campaign.
AFAIK, this has never been done before....and he's got some well respected people working for him.
he's a moderate, and he hopes to help shift the party away from the progressive wing. he'll support whoever wins the nomination, but he wants it to be a moderate. at the end of the day, he's a super rich guy who isn't interested in much that sanders or warren has to say about capitalism or wealth distribution.
have you seen the ads he's run?
they're designed to weaken trump by comparing the two of them....the portray bloomberg as an actual billionaire who made it all by himself...as someone who created loads of jobs in his real company....and that he's level headed. trump was given a family business by his father which employs a handful of employees.
and btw, with a net worth of $60 billion, bloomberg could find 170 million behind his couch cushions.....and he's already pledged to spend a billion to defeat trump....whether he's the nominee or not.
that's why you should stick to copy & pasting cartoons.
and...
in addition to being and wanting to support a moderate nominee, he likely thinks that warren and sanders can't beat trump.
it's all about beating trump.
He is a fucking scumbag and he has stated that he is running to try to keep Bernie out of the WH. I would bet that the shitbag would prefer to have another 4 years of the orange moron rather than a true progressive in office. Fuck him. BTW we who support Bernie are tired of this shit. He is the only person that can defeat the orange moron. Biden is a walking corpse at this point and he has proven it time and again. To all of you haters....
U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders has been steadily climbing in popularity this year and is now tied with former Vice President Joe Biden for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination among registered voters, according to a Reuters/Ipsos national poll.
The online poll, released Thursday, shows that 20% of registered Democrats and independents said they would back Sanders over 11 other candidates to run in the general election against President Donald Trump, an increase of 2 percentage points from a similar poll that ran last week.
Another 19% supported Biden, 12% said they would vote for Senator Elizabeth Warren, 9% backed former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and 6% said they would support Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana.
Sanders and Bloomberg have increased their level of support in each of the last three Reuters/Ipsos polls starting in mid-December, while support for Biden, Warren and Buttigieg has remained flat.
The poll also shows that about one in five potential primary voters remain undecided. And among those who have picked, nearly two out of three say they are open to changing their minds.
Sanders, an independent who built a national network of fervent supporters while running for the party’s nomination in 2016, has consistently ranked among the most popular candidates since he entered the race.
The poll shows that standing does not appear to have been hurt by his recent confrontation with Warren over Sanders’ views of women and politics.
Warren, who is aligned with Sanders on a variety of issues, has accused him of telling her in 2018 that a woman could not be elected president. Sanders disputes that claim, and the two sniped at each other after this week’s presidential debate about how they were framing the conversation in public.
The dispute has the potential to reconfigure a Democratic nomination race that has stagnated for months with no single candidate emerging as the clear front-runner.
According to Reuters/Ipsos polling from December to January, women are the party’s biggest swing group: they are more than twice as likely as men to say they are undecided about which candidate to support. Among those women who have picked a candidate, nearly two out of three say they are open to changing their minds.
So far, Sanders’ and Warren’s support remains unchanged among women, with about 15% supporting Sanders and 11% supporting Warren.
The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted in English throughout the United States from Jan. 15-16. It gathered responses from 681 Democrats and independents, including 552 who were registered to vote. The poll has a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of about 5 percentage points.
Sanders climbs, now tied with Biden among registered voters: Reuters poll - Reuters
Bernie will deliver in the key swing states that the cheet-o in chief won last time. His populist message is genuine and most of these areas are strong union with a long history of voting democratic and he can get those people back better than any other candidate.
Feel the Bern bitches!
harsh, but yeah he's undeniably done some scummy things...and truth be told, a few good things too.
i know the sanders campaign believes this, but i haven't seen a quote from bloomberg that supports it. btw, i already posted above that i believe it.
i disagree.
he thinks trump is a disgrace that needs to be stopped no matter what.
if it came down to it, i think he'd bite his tongue and support sanders
i disagree.
i think sanders, warren, biden and klobuchar could beat trump....but IMO biden has the best odds of the four.
What a load of utter bollocks.
You live in a fantasy world if you think he's spending all this money just to make Trump look bad for the other candidates.
And you haven't answered the question of why he isn't backing one of them instead of pushing his own candidacy.
Waffle on, Ray.
A sample Bloomberg spot that mentions baldy orange cunto..... 0 times.
(apart from a brief shot of Baldy's hovel when he talks about taxes).
so you think someone like bloomberg is going to essentially gamble it on one of the candidates who could be knocked out for any number of reasons before the first primary or caucus. sure, that makes complete sense. good plan, harry.
quite frankly, it's not at all surprising that you just don't get it.
keep playing checkers, harry.
if i were caucusing in iowa next month, he wouldn't be my first choice. but i'd probably move to him in the second round (and definitely the 3rd) if my choice didn't meet the viability threshold.
status quo or not....biden will get union voters, black voters, women voters, young voters....and most importantly, voters who have had enough of the craziness and want to reset back to normalcy.
of the candidates still in the race, IMO he has the best chance to get to 270 against trump.
I don't think Bloomberg is playing some sort of 3-D chess here. He wants to bring a moderate voice to the field and he really thinks Trump is an awful President. It's that simple. I am sure with his funding he will support whichever candidate wins the nomination in the end, but in the meantime he's running for himself.
As an uninformed Brit bystander who has heard how much Dems are disgusted by the lack social care investment, just exactly how much money is being consumed in this election process? Not a complaint just interested.
Edit
Peanuts just a mere $1.6BN is 2016 - fukin obscene imo
although a mere $5 when you break it down per person so an utter bargain
The amount of money burned in the electoral process is an absolute abomination and should not be allowed. The candidate I support (Sanders) wants to remove money and special interests from politics entirely something that I very much support. That is something that the Republicans and the right in America will fight to the last breath as the money allows them to buy many elections. The last thing they want is a fair fight.
we're more or less in agreement. except that IMO he knows that there are moderate voices already running and he's doing his best to 1) drown out the progressive wing of the party, and 2) shine a light on trump's weaknesses.
do you think he believes he can win the nomination? IMO he's waaaaay too sharp for the level of naivete or ego based self-delusion.
Last edited by raycarey; 18-01-2020 at 11:52 AM.
i've been reading about 'tio bernie' and his efforts to win california....and whether or not he should gracefully drop out if he doesn't win CA, IA or NH.
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