Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

Originally Posted by beachbound

When you’re handed the ingredients to a shit sandwich, it’s rather difficult to turn it into tiramisu, overnight.

There were plenty off accomplishments for Obama to hang his hat on. For starters, the unemployment rate went from over 10% to less than 5%, during that time. The Trump economy vs. the Obama economy in 15 charts - The Washington Post

His biggest achievement of note right now was taking pandemics seriously and building a pandemic response infrastructure.

You know, the one the stupid bald orange cunto dismantled.

Originally Posted by beachbound

When you’re handed the ingredients to a shit sandwich, it’s rather difficult to turn it into tiramisu, overnight.

There were plenty off accomplishments for Obama to hang his hat on. For starters, the unemployment rate went from over 10% to less than 5%, during that time. The Trump economy vs. the Obama economy in 15 charts - The Washington Post

oh come on, he did fuck all. The POTUS is not managing the US economy, this is not the Soviet Union. He was just riding a wave. Ok so he did stop fuckups from Republicans, could have done more with executive orders in that regard, but he didn't because he needed them for his failed Obamacare.

Total failure, weak, inefficient, and un-engaged with real people. A great social manipulator. If you prefer, a smarter version of Trump, much smarter.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...disagree: Obama provided the intangible that tRump is incapable of: an inspiration to others in terms of civility, common sense, competence, insight into the nations's problems and a willingness to negotiate. Ultimately, his notions of a better society were defeated because he remained a negro throughout his 2 terms in office. That, in many parts of America, is unforgivable...worse even than socialism...

an inspiration to others, that's great for the Press corps and snowflakes liberals, but that didn't help the majority of Americans

of course, he was useful after years of disatrous GW Bush public appearances, but in retrospect, he did less than GW Bush. He didn't start a war but didn't stop one either, kept fueling the legacy ones.

his only merit was that he was black, and that he was very articulate and very presidential. That's great for the first 6 months or year 1 of the presidency, but after that?

he was all posture and shit, playing behind the scene games etc... all his European allies hated him because eventually they saw the fraud that he was.

Oabama failed to deliver the changes he promised. Period.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...disagree: Obama provided the intangible that tRump is incapable of: an inspiration to others in terms of civility, common sense, competence, insight into the nations's problems and a willingness to negotiate. Ultimately, his notions of a better society were defeated because he remained a negro throughout his 2 terms in office. That, in many parts of America, is unforgivable...worse even than socialism...

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#i'mafan

the unemployment rate went from over 10% to less than 5%, during that time.

That could be. Did he give more taxcuts at the expence of the ordinary guy, turn the interest knob down a bit, or was it something different coming from the outside.

I'm sure you'll be fair and vote Trump come november, cause he did better than Obama then

In my opinion Obama was a big dissapointment.

He stalled..... on purpose ?

Originally Posted by helge

He stalled..... on purpose ?

No he had a Republican congress and senate the last 2 years who blocked his attempts most every time.

Hard to leave on a high note handicapped like that.

How many years did Republicans control Congress under Obama?

It met in Washington, D.C. from January 3, 2015, to January 3, 2017, during the final two full years of Barack Obama's presidency. The 2014 elections gave the Republicans control of the Senate (and control of both houses of Congress) for the first time since the 109th Congress.

^First two years

Originally Posted by helge

^First two years

Originally Posted by aging one

It met in Washington, D.C. from January 3, 2015, to January 3, 2017, during the final two full years of Barack Obama's presidency. The 2014 elections gave the Republicans control of the Senate (and control of both houses of Congress) for the first time since the 109th Congress.

Sorry dont mean to be rude, but can you read the above one more time and do the math..

Originally Posted by helge

First two years

do you imagine the US president to be a king, despot or dictator?
i don't know what you know about how the US government functions, but even with the veto proof, 60 senate votes he had in 2009, he was still dealing with democrat senators in red states who were (rightly) worried about re-election in 2010.....it's why the single payer plan (among others) wasn't passed.


but here's a list of the legislation that did become law in the first two years of the obama administration.

• January 29, 2009: Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111–2
• February 4, 2009: Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act (SCHIP), Pub.L. 111–3
• February 17, 2009: American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA), Pub.L. 111–5
• March 11, 2009: Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009, Pub.L. 111–8
• March 30, 2009: Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111–11
• April 21, 2009: Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, Pub.L. 111–13
• May 20, 2009: Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111–21
• May 20, 2009: Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111–22
• May 22, 2009: Weapon Systems Acquisition Reform Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111–23
• May 22, 2009: Credit CARD Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111–24
• June 22, 2009: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, as Division A of Pub.L. 111–31
• June 24, 2009: Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2009 including the Car Allowance Rebate System (Cash for Clunkers), Pub.L. 111–32
• October 28, 2009: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010, including the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, Pub.L. 111–84
• November 6, 2009: Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, Pub.L. 111–92
• December 16, 2009: Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2010, Pub.L. 111–117
• February 12, 2010: Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act, as Title I of Pub.L. 111–139
• March 4, 2010: Travel Promotion Act of 2009, as Section 9 of Pub.L. 111–145
• March 18, 2010: Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act, Pub.L. 111–147
• March 23, 2010: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Pub.L. 111–148
• March 30, 2010: Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, including the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act, Pub.L. 111–152
• May 5, 2010: Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–163
• July 1, 2010: Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–195
• July 21, 2010: Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, Pub.L. 111–203
• July 29, 2010: Tribal Law and Order Act of 2010
• August 3, 2010: Fair Sentencing Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–220
• August 10, 2010: Securing the Preservation of Our Enduring and Established Constitutional Heritage Act, Pub.L. 111–223
• September 27, 2010: Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–240
• December 8, 2010: Claims Resolution Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–291
• December 13, 2010: Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–296
• December 17, 2010: Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–312, H.R. 4853
• December 22, 2010: Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–321, H.R. 2965
• January 2, 2011: James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010, Pub.L. 111–347, H.R. 847
• January 4, 2011: Shark Conservation Act, Pub.L. 111–348, H.R. 81
• January 4, 2011: Food Safety and Modernization Act, Pub.L. 111–353, H.R. 2751

Originally Posted by helge

In my opinion Obama was a big dissapointment.

he will surely be devastated by this news.

be kind and break it to him slowly.

Waiting to hear back from you helge..

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

of course, he was useful after years of disatrous GW Bush public appearances, but in retrospect, he did less than GW Bush. He didn't start a war but didn't stop one either, kept fueling the legacy ones.

BTW, who did start the Syria war?

I have to laugh imagining how every morning before the presidential briefing all the big guys (and the ones sitting in the 5-pointed house nearby) had been eagerly awaiting the orders of the funny Nobel Peace Prize man who to bomb and who not to... (otherwise they would not know...)

Originally Posted by aging one

Sorry dont mean to be rude, but can you read the above one more time and do the math..

I commented in post 2422 to a post from Butters (2421) and I believe beachfront commented on mine and maybe I commented on his and you came into the picture. Complicated
I am aware that Obama had a very hostile congress for 6 years, not 8

Originally Posted by aging one

Waiting to hear back from you helge..

Patience
Had to pick a kid up from school

In my opinion Mitch McConnell and the Republicans were a big dissapointment.

Why would you say that ?
They did exactly what they were paid, elected and supposed to

Originally Posted by beachbound

"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”-Moscow Mitch

????Ofcourse

Do you want Trump to be a two termer ?

I wouldn't

This is not the boyscouts; wish it was

Originally Posted by HuangLao

and quite expected

FIFY.

Originally Posted by helge

Patience

Off topic:

Hey AO
Now I made pancakes for the kids, went shopping, had a glass of cardboard in the garden and looked at the boy playing fortnite.
You still aren't back and I really would like another glass and a ciggie.

I'll be right outside

Originally Posted by helge

Why would you say that ?
They did exactly what they were paid, elected and supposed to

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You little joker you.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You little joker you.

Harry, old friend

You wouldn't postulate that a republican congress would cooperate with a democrat black president in running the country, would you ?

Originally Posted by helge

Harry, old friend

You wouldn't postulate that a republican congress would cooperate with a democrat black president in running the country, would you ?

I wouldn't postulate that republicans would cooperate with anyone who doesn't line the pockets of them and their sponsors.

They don't give a shit about the people who elect them, but since that seems to be American's singularly dumbest fucking demographic, it doesn't seem to matter.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They don't give a shit about the people who elect them

Agree
But they do give a shit about the people who select them.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

His biggest achievement of note right now was taking pandemics seriously and building a pandemic response infrastructure.

You know, the one the stupid bald orange cunto dismantled.

If the Obama administration and discovered a cure for coronavirus, Trump would have ignored it.

heard this today from someone i consider to be reputable and well informed....

there are two possible outcomes to this election:

1. trump wins.

or

2. trump contests the election results citing voter fraud.


there's no way he just concedes gracefully.

i don't think it will get to the point that he would need to be physically removed, but i'd bet that he makes reference to exactly that as a possibility.

i also learned something interesting about the 6 widely acknowledged 'battleground' states (FL, NC, AZ, PA, WI, MI)......they all allow voting by mail and "no excuse" absentee ballots.