Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

^ what are the chances that the DNC decides that in the long run it's better to endure 4 more years of trump than have sanders transform the party?

i'm not saying they're going to do it, but i'd bet some establishment types spit balling it.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

World wide there are "About two dozen countries provide free tuition or nearly-free tuition at public colleges and universities to their citizens" So roughly 24 out of 193 countries think it's a great idea.

Another shit argument and an epic fail by you. List those 24 countries then David. I bet they are the 24 countries with the highest standards of living in the world. Ya but you still fail to see the connection.

Originally Posted by bsnub

List those 24 countries then David.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...-free-college/

Originally Posted by David48atTD

As for "you paid for yours so why should others get it for free" ... nope, not at all.

Ok, I'll believe you, 'nuff said about that

Originally Posted by David48atTD

The majority of those posting on this thread are Democrat supporters so, it's logical that their comments reflect that thought

See, though, I don't see it as a politically motivated belief, it's a social issue, especially in the US where degrees can cost a fortune

Originally Posted by David48atTD

As for "contribute to society after they've graduated" ... let's be honest, what you actually mean is that ... lets give the kids a free Uni degree, let the US tax payers pay for it through higher taxes and pray that the Uni students repay a little of that through the fact they they earn more and thus, pay higher taxes.

Nope, I am being honest. Higher educated people, with degrees, generally pay higher taxes = ergo sum, it benefits the economy and contributes to the greater good.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

World wide there are "About two dozen countries provide free tuition or nearly-free tuition at public colleges and universities to their citizens" So roughly 24 out of 193 countries think it's a great idea.

Thanks for the map - yup, most are similar to the US, in terms of wealth and development

Originally Posted by panama hat

See, though, I don't see it as a politically motivated belief, it's a social issue, especially in the US where degrees can cost a fortune

Exactly. Even on the right they should see the economic benefits. The truth is there is something far more sinister at work here. It is racism. The right in the US does not want the non white people in this country to have equal access to education.

The same is true as to why Gerrymandering and voter suppression is such a problem in the US south. In both Florida and Georgia the black candidates for governor of those states should have won in the last election but the previously mentioned actions prevented that.

The right in the US is a cancer of bigotry that wants to suppress not only minorities but the working class as well. Right now they are winning.

Enjoy...

Originally Posted by bsnub

A lot of personal questions there

With a lot if good responses. Well said.

bernie seems to be ceding SC to biden...he's going to spend the next two days in MA....which could be an attempt to knock out warren.

will be interesting to see if pressure mounts on bloomberg to drop out before super tuesday if biden does very well in SC....because at this point he's basically taking votes from biden and ensuring that bernie gets the most delegates....particularly in a state like texas.

let's take a moment to reflect on the fact that a plutocrat republican billionaire might ensure that an independent/democratic socialist wins the democratic nomination.

Originally Posted by raycarey

will be interesting to see if pressure mounts on bloomberg to drop out before super tuesday if biden does very well in SC

Doubt it. I think Bloomberg will stay in until after Super Tuesday. His strategy from day one. Polls show he is not going to do well so figure he will drop out and endorse Biden.

$400 mil bet gone bad. Not much considering he is worth $62 bil.

Originally Posted by Norton

Polls show he is not going to do well so figure he will drop out and endorse Biden.

but polls indicate that by that point it will be too late....if bloomberg attracts biden's moderate voters on super tuesday, bernie is going to clean up and nobody is going to catch him.

Originally Posted by Norton

Polls show he is not going to do well so figure he will drop out and endorse Biden.

Originally Posted by Norton

$400 mil bet gone bad. Not much considering he is worth $62 bil.

Reaffirming why the .001 is cancerous. Fox and Rupert Murdoch's media love to blur the lines between a guy who started his own business and these massive oligarchs. No comparison.

Originally Posted by raycarey

but polls indicate that by that point it will be too late....if bloomberg attracts biden's moderate voters on super tuesday, bernie is going to clean up and nobody is going to catch him.

Yep and I don't think Bernie can beat Trump. Bloomberg not on SC ballot so suppose it is possible he will reconsider when the results come in.

Won't be long now but Dems better coalesce around a candidate PDQ or will lose in a landslide cone November.

Originally Posted by raycarey

if bloomberg attracts biden's moderate voters on super tuesday, bernie is going to clean up and nobody is going to catch him.

Thank the gods for that.

Originally Posted by Norton

Yep and I don't think Bernie can beat Trump.

You are wrong. The swing states that the orange moron won are traditionally union and democratic. They are tired of a mouthpiece like drumpf and will not vote for him again.

Originally Posted by Norton

Won't be long now but Dems better coalesce around a candidate PDQ or will lose in a landslide cone November.

You are a relic from the past. Things are different now. The coffin dodgers that support the orange moron are dying off.

Originally Posted by bsnub

You are a relic from the past

Suppose at 80 I am so will refrain from further comment. Feel the Bern Snubs.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

World wide there are "About two dozen countries provide free tuition or nearly-free tuition at public colleges and universities to their citizens" So roughly 24 out of 193 countries think it's a great idea.

Forgotten to take in account Russia and all the countries of the former Eastern Bloc? That will change the figures substantially. That's why the literacy rate in those countries is almost 100%... see e.g. Education in Russia - Wikipedia

^
thanks for sharing another in a long line of unbiased posts about mother russia, comrade.

now then....

if bernie only ends up with a plurality and it comes down to super delegates on the second ballot.....i'd be willing to wager that it goes to warren in what the DNC would consider a compromise. i also kind of get the feeling that she's gaming for this to happen.

Originally Posted by raycarey

if bernie only ends up with a plurality and it comes down to super delegates on the second ballot.....i'd be willing to wager that it goes to warren in what the DNC would consider a compromise. i also kind of get the feeling that she's gaming for this to happen.

gone too far mate. I really think Sanders is going to take California, Texas, and NC..... Unstoppable and speaking his mind promising what he believes in. Probably not in any way deliverable. But thats how Trump won 4 years ago, and continues to enjoy success. The educated young and Latino's are Bernies, now we are seeing the blacks, unions, and other undecided and Trump hating voters going that way.

Lets have it black and white this time...

Originally Posted by Norton

Suppose at 80 I am so will refrain from further comment.

80 is the new 60 Norts.

Comrade Bernie will be past 79 if he ever gets the keys to Pennsylvania Avenue.

Originally Posted by raycarey

unbiased posts about mother russia

When speaking about facts who needs unbiased posts, anyway? (Maybe the CIA is biased?)

A 2015 estimate by the United States Central Intelligence Agency puts the literacy rate in Russia at 99.7% (99.7% for men, 99.6% for women).[5] According to a 2016 OECD estimate, 54% of Russia's adults (25- to 64-year-olds) have attained a tertiary education, giving Russia the second-highest attainment of tertiary education among 35 OECD member-countries.[6] 47.7% have completed secondary education (the full 11-year course); 26.5% have completed middle school (9 years) and 8.1% have elementary education (at least 4 years). Highest rates of tertiary education (24.7%) are recorded among women aged 35 to 39 years (compared to 19.5% for men of the same age bracket).[7]

Compared with other OECD countries, Russia has some of the smallest class-sizes[8] and some of the shortest instruction-hours per year.[9]

Joseph Stiglitz, a former chief economist of the World Bank, has stated that one of the good things that Russia inherited from the Soviet era was "a high level of education, especially in technical areas so important for the New Economy"

Education in Russia - Wikipedia

I would not dare to paste here the official literacy figures of (please no names here), to get it again deleted as happened some time ago...

Originally Posted by bsnub

You are a relic from the past. Things are different now. The coffin dodgers that support the orange moron are dying off.

And Sanders is 79 yrs and socialist,show some respect to Norton

biden has a 20 point lead on sanders in the just released monmouth poll for SC.....and that was before the clyburn endorsement this morning.

Originally Posted by Norton

Suppose at 80 I am so will refrain from further comment. Feel the Bern Snubs.

I was on the piss by the time I posted that. Your comments and opinion is valued by myself sir so please to not withdraw from the dialog. Besides the DNC is going to find away to steal this thing from Bernie again and then most of his supporters will feel ostracized and will not vote in the general handing the orange moron another win. So I guess we are fucked either way we look at it eh Norts?

Originally Posted by Chico

And Sanders is 79 yrs and socialist,show some respect to Norton

Fuck off you miserable little twat. You should not even be posting here. On your umpteenth multi nick and the fact that the admin lets you get away with it is beyond ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Norton

Suppose at 80 I am so will refrain from further comment.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Your comments and opinion is valued by myself sir

snubbles you are such a crawling bastard - every cnut posting on this board should already have a self worth that does not rely on fluffing by butters

bernie has been doing this for a long time

hopefully he can get enough people to understand his message now

Originally Posted by bsnub

Do you notice any of their residents leaving due to high taxes? Of note the nations on that list have the worlds lowest income inequality, the lowest infant mortality, the highest quality of life in the entire world and the worlds happiest people?

...Do you notice a correlation?

Why don’t you leave the terrible ole USA and move to one of those wonderful countries?