Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

Originally Posted by panama hat

Buttegieg is worth about 100k

That's surprising if correct.

I know he's relatively young but married and even at his age you'd think it would be more surely??

He gave up a well-paid consulting job to become mayor on a fixed salary and his military income would have been a pittance . . . added to which, if he paid off his various debts - not too foul. I'm not sure if they took his husband's worth into it, but he's a similarly regular person, no wealth

Originally Posted by panama hat

He gave up a well-paid consulting job to become mayor on a fixed salary and his military income would have been a pittance . . . added to which, if he paid off his various debts - not too foul. I'm not sure if they took his husband's worth into it, but he's a similarly regular person, no wealth

Yeah I suppose still a little surprised. You'd think most at that age in that position would've accumulated more even just in a house or whatever.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Yeah I suppose still a little surprised. You'd think most at that age in that position would've accumulated more even just in a house or whatever.

True . . . thanks for making me feel bad . . . I need to step up a gear, I guess

Originally Posted by panama hat

True . . . thanks for making me feel bad . . . I need to step up a gear, I guess

I've seen your house, you're well in excess of that!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I've seen your house, you're well in excess of that!

Careful, you'll ruin chico's rants that I'm a penniless TEFLer . . . plus, you couldn't have seen my house as it's the garden shed behind the house you saw

Originally Posted by panama hat

Careful, you'll ruin chico's rants that I'm a penniless TEFLer . . . plus, you couldn't have seen my house as it's the garden shed behind the house you saw

Ahhh...




























...can I have a loan please?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

I rage at Bernie Sanders, the last Jewish Bolshevik. But I can't hate him - U.S. News - Haaretz.com

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

If Democrats Aren’t Terrified, They’re Not Paying Attention

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Bernie's Problem Isn't His Three Houses, It's His Two Standards | National Review

These articles have something in common. They are utter tosh and simple fear mongering. Feel the Bern.

Originally Posted by bsnub

These articles have something in common. They are utter tosh and simple fear mongering. Feel the Bern.

What’s to fear?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

...can I have a loan please?

Shekels or Indonesian rupiah? 50 of one and 100.000 of the latter

Originally Posted by RPETER65

What’s to fear?

Not Bernie. But your fascist corporapist oligarchs are the ones to fear but they do an excellent job distracting idiots like you. You and rest of the elderly right are total sheep.

Middle and high schools have been adding curricula about how to spot fake news. Older adults also struggle to sort disinformation online — but there are fewer resources tackling the problem.

MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:

U.S. officials have warned that Russia is interfering in the presidential election again. In 2016, Russia launched a massive disinformation campaign designed to influence voters. Since then, many schools have added digital literacy courses, but some experts say the voters who struggle the most with fake news are senior citizens. For All Tech Considered, NPR's Sam Gringlas visited a class that's tackling the challenge.

BRE CLARK: You'll see the sign-in sheet's coming around.

SAM GRINGLAS, BYLINE: We're in the daisy room at the Schweinhaut Senior Center in suburban Maryland. The walls are washed in bright yellow and decorated with - you guessed it - pink and purple daisies. Around a bank of tables, a dozen seniors are on iPads and laptops, and they're in the middle of an investigation.
PAUL MINK: What you got here is a possibly fake article.

GRINGLAS: That's Paul Mink (ph). Like the other students in this workshop, he's staring at a meme. It's an image of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi with a caption. Instructor Bre Clark reads it aloud.

CLARK: California received three extra seats in Congress by including 2 1/2 million illegal aliens in their population total.
GRINGLAS: Does that sound right?

MINK: Let's put the source up there; K-R-Y-P.

GRINGLAS: Searching on Google leads to some dead ends and some detours.

CLARK: Oh, you found Fortnite memes (laughter). So did you perform a search for memes? OK.

GRINGLAS: Eventually, everyone pulls up a reputable fact-checking site like Snopes or PolitiFact, just like they've been taught. And Marlene Cianci (ph) finds the Pelosi meme.

MARLENE CIANCI: A meme on Facebook falsely claims - so...
CLARK: Awesome.

CIANCI: It's right there. It's just a two-step thing.
CLARK: Awesome.

CIANCI: And there it was.

GRINGLAS: This session, how to spot fake news, is organized by the nonprofit Older Adults Technology Services. These kind of classes aren't common yet nationwide, but a recent study suggests they're increasingly important. Researchers at Princeton and NYU found that Facebook users 65 and over posted seven times as many articles from fake news websites compared to adults under 29. In the daisy room, Clark tells these seniors that a key to spotting fake news is knowing its source.

CLARK: So where does the information come from? Many of you - or a few of you - cited that you kind of go directly to a source you already trust. But if you do stumble upon something, where did the information come from?

GRINGLAS: Ninety-two year old Patricia Kramer (ph) says she appreciated the lesson, even though she thinks older adults know how to spot something fishy and shouldn't shoulder all the blame for this problem.

PATRICIA KRAMER: If you tell me that you've got an ice cream cone, I'm going to say, where is it? You know? I want to see the proof. I'm going to question every single thing, and I think that would be something that older people would do 'cause we've been fooled a lot of times when we were younger.

GRINGLAS: Beside memes, the class learns about deepfakes - online audio and video that seem real but aren't - also, Russian trolls and propaganda. After the class, Joyce Wu (ph) says she feels empowered to wade through it all.

JOYCE WU: In this new technology where things go so fast, we just get left out sometimes or we get confused. So having this program really enlightens us and help us to advance and become more braver.

GRINGLAS: Over at Stanford University, Susan Nash is one of the few researchers who's been looking at why seniors may be more likely to struggle with fake news.

SUSAN NASH: If we were standing in line in the supermarket and we saw a tabloid, I mean, people in my generation know what that means. But when we see something online, the traditional cues that we're used to are not present.

GRINGLAS: Nash, who is 63, also says confirmation bias can get stronger with age. Isolation can be a factor, too. And since the AARP finds tech use is climbing among older adults, Nash says it's important to tailor workshops to their specific needs.

NASH: Just because you're online doesn't mean you're ready to evaluate everything you're seeing there.

GRINGLAS: Nash says classes for seniors taught by peers can be especially effective; so are checklists and hands-on practice.

NASH: We all know that an informed democracy is the only way a democracy works. And if we don't teach them how to evaluate what they're seeing, then we are poisoning our electorate.

GRINGLAS: So Nash and other groups are racing to whip up more programming. And with an election on the horizon, the stakes are incredibly high.

How Some Are Trying To Teach Senior Citizens To Spot Fake News : NPR

Bernie Sanders’ tax plan paying for universal healthcare from his website. I can’t imagine a huge number of Americans who would say this is a bad thing.



Another option is to reform the personal income tax system by strengthening progressive income tax rates, taxing capital gains and dividends the same as work income, limiting deductions for the wealthy, taxing carried interest as ordinary income, and requiring derivatives to be marked to market.


Progressive income tax rates.


Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be:


40% percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
45% percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
50% percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2014, only 136,000 households, the top 0.1 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10 million.)
52% percent on income above $10 million. (In 2014, only 16,700 households, just 0.02 percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.)

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/downl...=1&inline=file

Originally Posted by misskit

I can’t imagine a huge number of Americans who would say this is a bad thing.

But that's not how most Americans think, the great American dream is that anyone can attain riches and become president . . . in the most unequal western democracy. So, by taxing the rich the cretins think they'll be taxed like this when they - if they work really, really hard and don't complain - strike it rich

Originally Posted by bsnub

How Some Are Trying To Teach Senior Citizens To Spot Fake News

You can start here....

• Chart: Where People Have Faith In Their Elections | Statista

I loved Bloomberg's Freudian slip this morning that he "bought" democrats

I give Bloomberg the thumbs up at the last debate, not for being the most persuasive because he's clearly not a potus-grade orator, but for keeping his cool against the shriekers.

Doesn't much matter though, Trump will be against any of these time wasters.

Originally Posted by bsnub

These articles have something in common. They are utter tosh and simple fear mongering. Feel the Bern.

I’ll give you your due for the first one.

The second one by Jonathan Chait. That guy is solid.

Dinesh D'Souza on Instagram: “This can't be good.”

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Dinesh D'Souza on Instagram: “This can't be good.”

Spamming a link to a cartoon on Dinesh D'Souza's Instagram page now?!

You really have embraced the technological leap from email FWD;fwd;fwd;fwd's haven't you.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Spamming a link to a cartoon on Dinesh D'Souza's Instagram page now?!

You really have embraced the technological leap from email FWD;fwd;fwd;fwd's haven't you.

Isn't that the token right-wing Indian who served jail time for election fraud?

Ah, of course it is. No wonder repeater admires him.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Isn't that the token right-wing Indian who served jail time for election fraud?

Ah, of course it is. No wonder repeater admires him.

The very one, pardoned by the corrupt Trump. He also mocked survivors of a school shooting but you can't get a pardon for being a piece of human refuse.

Repeater is a right-wing pundit / politicians wet-dream.

Just point at what / who he should be afraid of / angry at today and away he goes, no questions asked.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Feel the Bern.

I “feel” like this election should have three choices:

* The left wing whack job everything should be free Bernie Bots.
* The right wing whack job teabagger evangelical eternal damnation for everybody but us tRump Rots.
* Anybody who considers themselves a socially liberal centrist Democrat/Republican.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

left wing whack job

bernie is only left wing in seppoland - everywhere else in the developed world his agenda is accepted centerist

not sure where you got your bernie will tax you an extra 5k a year info from - but maybe you should research it more as you don't sound like you are earning more than 250k a year

Bernie's tax plan