Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

^ It is a weird one . . .

Bloomberg doesn't want to be Pres and is/was a Republican/Democrat

Bernie is an Independent/Democrat

Trump is a Democrat/Republican/Nothing orange afterbirth


Yup - the US needs to have at least four viable political parties . . . which will never happen as there is far too much money and complexity involved

Originally Posted by jabir

I'm still trying to figure what Bloomberg is doing in the race;

he was one objective.....stop trump.

if he happens to win in the process, all the better (from his perspective).

Originally Posted by panama hat

Yup - the US needs to have at least four viable political parties

It is very true.

stopping Trump is not a good enough reason for POTUS,

what a stupid candidate, no wonder he got killed in the debate, he is en empty head, and out of touch with reality, a smarter version of Trump

Originally Posted by jabir

what Bloomberg is doing in the race

Anybody can be POTUS once a powerful group is behind him, wasn't it proved with GW?

I love it. Bernie has the charisma.


Bernie's path to the presidency

Lots of Democrats are in full panic that Bernie Sanders will win the nomination and get clobbered in the general election — and bring the party down, too. But the evidence, particularly the polling, doesn't back those doomsday warnings.


Why it matters: Virtually every national and swing state poll shows Sanders tied with or beating President Trump. And, unlike every rival, he has a huge base of fervent, unshakable supporters he can only grow.


Just the facts, please: A Quinnipiac Poll last week showed Sanders beating Trump in Michigan and Pennsylvania. A CBS News/YouGov poll showed Sanders beating Trump nationally.

MORE The evidence doesn't back Democrats' panic that Bernie can't win - Axios

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

stopping Trump is not a good enough reason for POTUS,

it's more than a good enough reason.

taken from misskit's link:

"Instead of asking if Sanders is unelectable, ask another question: What if Sanders is actually the MOST electable Democrat? In the age of Trump, hyper-partisanship, institutional distrust, and social media, Sanders could be examined as a candidate almost custom-built to go head-to-head with Trump this year."

hard to argue with any of that.

don't get me wrong, i still think he's a risk....but i also think he can win.

Originally Posted by raycarey

it's more than a good enough reason.

that's because you are desperate

but in complete neutral objectivity, it's not a good enough reason

Originally Posted by misskit

I love it. Bernie has the charisma.

I hope Bolshevik Bernie gets the nomination.

He does not stand a snowballs of ever being elected but it will be the best fireworks show with the biggest entertainment value if Bernie goes to head to head with the Trumpster.

US politics has gone from coma-inducing deadly dullness to high octane since the Orangutrump swung into town.

Long may this new style of US politics continue!

Originally Posted by Looper

He does not stand a snowballs of ever being elected

i'd bet you said the exact same thing about obama and trump when they were trying to get the nomination.

I rage at Bernie Sanders, the last Jewish Bolshevik. But I can't hate him - U.S. News - Haaretz.com

“Indeed, Bernie is that last living link that connects the 21st century Jewish present with the events of the early 20th. He is Trotsky riding his military train through the Russian steppe, only to be suddenly transported through time and space into present-day America. The train’s gear may be lost but the message and the fervent pitch of the Red Army commander is still intact.
You don't need to go to the library to find a history book about all the mistakes the Jews made in the 20th century. You only need to listen to Bernie’s speeches. He is a living encyclopedia of all the most catastrophic decisions made by Jews. It is sad and fascinating how Churchill never comes back from the dead, but Trotsky does.
When I hear Bernie speak, I start shouting at the TV screen. Although I am watching Bernie, in reality I am screaming at Uncle Boris. I am incensed with his naivete, orthodoxy, religiosity, self-righteousness and a fair amount of masochism.
I am angry with him because even after spending his entire life talking about the good and defending the evil he is still unable to see the truth. And after millions of innocents slaughtered, he is unable to admit even one mistake.
Still, even as I rage, somewhere deep inside me there is a tiny bit of warmth for that last Jewish Bolshevik. Indeed, he is the last Boris – and this is a family affair.
Bernie is the world we all hoped had long gone, yet he is resurrecting, in front of our eyes, the terrifying ghosts of yesteryear, evil packaged as nostalgia and a blazing pursuit of "justice."

^
Oh, my good
Hasn't Bernie sworn an oath of eternal love to the settlers yet ?

It's over

If Democrats Aren’t Terrified, They’re Not Paying Attention

Indeed, since his 2016 campaign, the whole premise of the Sanders revolution has disintegrated. For a fleeting moment in 2016, it seemed plausible that broad dismay with capitalism had spread to a point where a majority of voters were ready to embrace radical change, from left or right. Instead, satisfaction with economic conditions has risen to the highest level in two decades. They are poised to seize the presidential nomination from a divided and disoriented party without coming up with any blueprint for general success more confidence-inspiring than “who knows, anything can happen.”

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Anybody can be POTUS once a powerful group is behind him, wasn't it proved with GW?

the middle aged boomers elected clinton
the supreme court elected GW
the blacks elected obama
the racists elected trump
and the youth will elect bernie

Bernie's Problem Isn't His Three Houses, It's His Two Standards | National Review

^ tell what you know about the 3 houses ?

^How poor is the dwelling of the others contenders?

Originally Posted by baldrick

the 3 houses

he's got a row house in DC , a house in burlington (capitol of VT) which he often rents out, and a lake house in VT....and he and his wife have about 1/2 million in mortgage debt.

and btw, they bought that lake house with her share of a family inheritance and money from his best selling book.

Bernie Sanders
@BernieSanders

Trump believes in tax breaks for billionaires.

I believe in investing in the working people of America.

We will tax the extreme wealth of the top 0.1% so we can invest $1.5 trillion to guarantee free, quality child care and early education for all.

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/st...87418137870337

Originally Posted by panama hat

What a sad rag . . . how can you expct to be talen seriously

Whoa..... who takes him seriously? (except the doddery old fool himself that is).

Bernie Sanders
✔
@BernieSanders
The Israeli people have the right to live in peace and security. So do the Palestinian people. I remain concerned about the platform AIPAC provides for leaders who express bigotry and oppose basic Palestinian rights. For that reason I will not attend their conference.
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5:34 AM - Feb 24, 2020
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/st...09010430189570


Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders has pledged to boycott the conference hosted by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) the pro-Israel lobby, as the senator comes under increased scrutiny for his foreign policy positions.

"The Israeli people have the right to live in peace and security. So do the Palestinian people. I remain concerned about the platform AIPAC provides for leaders who express bigotry and oppose basic Palestinian rights. For that reason I will not attend their conference," he tweeted.

"As president, I will support the rights of both Israelis and Palestinians and do everything possible to bring peace and security to the region."

The tweet comes after reports that AIPAC helped to fund advertisements attacking Sanders in Nevada, where he topped the polls for the caucus.

Meanehile in an interview on Sunday, Sanders denied being a pacifist, saying that if elected president he would "absolutely" use the military if warranted, both to protect US interests and to support its allies.

He also said he would be willing to meet with the North Korean dictator, Kim Jong Un, as President Donald Trump has done.

In the interview airing on CBS's "60 Minutes," the Vermont senator was asked in what circumstances he, as commander-in-chief, would deploy US military forces. He listed these criteria:

"Threats against the American people, to be sure. Threats against our allies. I believe in NATO.

"I believe that the United States, everything being equal, should be working with other countries in alliance, not doing it alone."

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Originally Posted by Klondyke

^How poor is the dwelling of the others contenders?

Are they wealthy?


Buttegieg is worth about 100k
Gabbard 500k
Klobuchar + Husband about 2million
Sanders 2.5 (+ wife)
Biden and Warren about 9million (family)

. . . then it gets stupid rich

That is 'worth' and considering Sanders, Biden and Warren have worked and invested for the last 50-60 years it isn't extraordinary

Originally Posted by panama hat

and considering Sanders, Biden and Warren have worked and invested for the last 50-60 years it isn't extraordinary

this.