Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

4 more years !!!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Makes perfect sense.

Does if you live in Slippery Rock, Arkansas.

Originally Posted by Norton

Like it or not winning the popular vote is just a nice feel good talking point for the person comes in 2nd on electoral vote count.

To people from actual functioning democracies it's also beyond bizarre that you can get more votes and still lose because of some archaic system of stuffing around with the results.

Originally Posted by Norton

Hillary and the DNC better remember or history will repeat. Had the polls been closer the US would have had a female prez. She eased off the throttle on last lap of the race while 45 had the pedal to the metal

Comey holding a press conference to re-open the investigation into her e-mails twelve days before the election didn't help either.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Comey holding a press conference to re-open the investigation into her e-mails twelve days before the election didn't help either.

indeed, it was outrageous !!!

Originally Posted by Humbert

Comey holding a press conference to re-open the investigation into her e-mails twelve days before the election didn't help either

Yes. That alone could have just been enough to sway the few votes needed to win in a few electoral districts.

Funny how the Trumptards conveniently forget about that when they're trying to portray him as a victim of a 'Deep State' and/or FBI conspiracy.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

To people from actual functioning democracies it's also beyond bizarre

Many types of "functioning democrary" government types. In your case a constitutional monarch. The PM nominated by the majority party in legislature.

US Presidency is elected separate from legislature. Arguments pro and con for electoral college.

If Prez was elected by popular vote only, high population state voters would essentially determine the presidency leaving low population states very little influence.

The system is imperfect but so far only 5 presidents have lost the popular vote. Trump and George H. W. Bush the most recent. Pro electoral college folks use this as reason for keeping it. Works fine most of the time.

agree, was against the collegial vote, but now I see it's usefulness

it's not a bad argument,

as usual, a question of balance and choice

I think France has a variation which I understand is controversial as well.

not for the President, but Parliament

yes, for 30 years, each new president make the promise he will change the system for more proportional vote

not going to happen, because if they do, LePen will get 1/3 of those seats !!!

it also give a strong majority for the new elected President since the election of Parliament is 1 month apart from the Presidential election

MMP despite the inherent issues it has is by far the more democratic and representative system.

Makes me laugh with the US exporting Freedom & Democracy at gunpoint everywhere when their own system is based on archaic doctrine, boils down to a choice between only two parties, and barely a majority of the eligible population even vote and the majority doesn't always matter.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Makes me laugh with the US exporting Freedom & Democracy at gunpoint everywhere when their own system is based on archaic doctrine

Well yuk it up good citizen of the remnants of the British empire. An Empire built on the same behavior you decry and governed by a document written in 1215.

Originally Posted by Norton

citizen of the remnants of the British empire. An Empire built on the same behavior you decry and governed by a document written in 1215.

Yes but no... I'm of precisely zero English heritage and the relevance of Magna Carta to the governance of modern day New Zealand is similarly precisely zero.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I'm of precisely zero English heritage

...really?...Polish then...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...really?...Polish then...

Papa, he thinks you are Polish.

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/p...mage/589094128

Originally Posted by Humbert

Comey holding a press conference to re-open the investigation into her e-mails twelve days before the election didn't help either.

As the never ending searching for a crime to charge Trump with in an impeachment hearing won’t help Trump much,other than to rally his supporters.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

How do you take it into consideration in a straight national poll, you stupid old fool.

Maybe be look at how heavy New York and California were canvassed.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

As the never ending searching for a crime to charge Trump with in an impeachment hearing won’t help Trump much

They already have several felony crimes to charge your orange god with however the justice department will not indict a sitting president. He will be charged the day he leaves office.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Maybe be look at how heavy New York and California were canvassed.

Are you really that stupid to think that the pollsters just polled those two states heavy? It was all 50 states including the most contested electoral states you simpleton.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

BTW ... Warren is also 0% chance of the Oval Office ... even the Democrats don't want her.

uh-oh, newbie dave....

Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg surge in South Carolina poll

Former Vice President Joe Biden's commanding lead has taken a hit in South Carolina, dropping from 46% to 37% as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (17%) and Mayor Pete Buttigieg (11%) surged to the No. 2 and No. 3. spots, according to the latest Post and Courier-Change research poll of 2,312 South Carolina voters.


Why it matters: South Carolina is a key early primary state in which black voters play an especially important role. The state will host its Democratic convention on June 21, an event expected to be attended by almost every candidate.


By the numbers:


Joe Biden: 37%
Elizabeth Warren: 17%
Pete Buttigieg: 11%
Kamala Harris: 9%
Bernie Sanders: 9%
Cory Booker: 5%
Beto O’Rourke: 4%
Andrew Yang: 3%
All other candidates poll at 1% or less

https://www.axios.com/warren-buttigi...3ba012c82.html

^ Agreed Ray ... Bernie Sanders is slipping in the Democratic Race.

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I'd still like someone like Kamala Harris to win the Democratic nod.

Biden would my 2nd choice and, if he can shake his past gaffs he's short-priced to get the nod.

You can always tell from Trump's attack Tweets who he considers his major opponent.

Trump 2020 is going to win, high hand

for the Bernie fans

http://np.reddit.com/r/SandersForPre...k_me_anything/