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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    America IS Jerry Springer, that's been obvious for some time now. It's how Trump got to be there. And looking through those glasses, Trump won that debate. I expect a 2 point bump for him in upcoming polls. And that's just sad.
    Trump did not win that debate. It was Bidens to lose with some major gaffs which didn't happen

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    Biden performed better and Trump worse than I expected, but still not good enough to take the election on merit. Wasn't impressed with Wallace as moderator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    America IS Jerry Springer, that's been obvious for some time now.
    Well parts of it sure but those cousin humpers were always gonna vote Trump.

    He had no answers other than the usual lies and yelling and won't win any undecideds (if there still actually is such a thing) or, more importantly, those GOP moderates that voted him in 2016 and now see what he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    all things considered, biden held his own. those saying he has dementia will have to find a new line of attack.
    Indeed he did just like I knew he would.

    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    biden should seriously consider not participating in the other scheduled debates.
    Ya that embarrassment was enough. I do look forward to Harris taking apart that putz Pence.

    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Biden performed better and Trump worse than I expected, but still not good enough to take the election on merit.
    He proved you wrong and completely took the wind out of the argument you have been bleating on and on about for the last several months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    quoted for posterity.
    Please do. I'll be happy if I'm wrong.

    Have you ever been able to say that ray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    1. the president of the US told a white supremacist group to 'stand down and stand by'
    i believe it was "stand back and stand by"....which is worse.


    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    I'll be happy if I'm wrong.
    you're wrong all the time, so you must be pretty happy. good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    you're wrong all the time, so you must be pretty happy. good for you.
    Bwahhaaahhaa.........okay Ray. You picked Hillary to win. You thought the Mueller report would be the end for Trump. You thought McConnell would wait until after the election to confirm the next Supreme Court Judge.

    You are wrong on almost everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    You picked Hillary to win.
    yes, i did. along with practically everyone else....including the trump campaign.

    and you?

    post up a link to your 2016 election prediction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    post up a link to your 2016 election prediction.
    I'll leave that up to you to find on here. If you can't, would you like to call my family and friends for confirmation? I knew after Brexit Trump would win. I knew who Robert Mercer was then, and you have probably still never heard of him.

    You're one of the stupid Democrats. You get a second chance to beat a raving lunatic, and you pick a worse candidate than the one before. The definition of insanity.

    Bernie would have killed Trump in that debate.

    Kamala will probably cry in hers.
    Last edited by pickel; 30-09-2020 at 12:12 PM.

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    Biden was a bit softly spoke, Trump, the loudmouth bully. Wallace should have moved earlier to stop Trump interrupting so much.

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    Trump touted out the lie about how much the green new deal would cost, and all Biden could do was try and appear more right of center and abandon some of the people that got him there.

    Bernie would have stood up to him, told him the real cost, and where the money was going to come from.

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    CNNs take


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Biden was a bit softly spoke, Trump, the loudmouth bully. Wallace should have moved earlier to stop Trump interrupting so much.
    Imo Biden was crisp. Called him a clown and told him to shut up. And he didn't throw the neo Jacobins any bones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    CNNs take
    "It was a shit show". And they're not just talking about Trump.

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    "Tonight’s “debate” demonstrated 2 things:

    1) Joe Biden is 100% cognitively intact & has an excellent grasp of the issues impacting this nation.

    2) Donald Trump is an abusive pathological liar & his presidency is a cancer on this nation."

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    I'll agree with you on the second one.

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    Gotta be honest I'm not 100% in accordance with #1 myself, still think it was more than adequate from Joe though.

    And just on that... Short of screen-shotting which is a pain in the arse does anyone now how to post Twitter stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    still think it was more than adequate from Joe though.
    of course it was....he did as well as could be expected under the circumstances.

    some butthurt bernie bros like pickle just can't let it go.
    Last edited by raycarey; 30-09-2020 at 12:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    I knew after Brexit Trump would win. I knew who Robert Mercer was then, and you have probably still never heard of him.
    you lying sack of shit.




    27/02/2017......four months after the 2016 US election and eight months after the brexit vote.....

    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    This is a great article on data manipulation and social engineering. I've never heard of Robert Mercer, but it appears he is the Joseph Goebbels of the modern age.
    https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner...ml#post3473024 (President Donald Trump)


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    quick recap....who else besides pickle is predicting a trump victory?
    Link?

    I remember talking to my Dad on election night, he lives in the states. They were getting ready to have a victory party to celebrate Hillarys win. I told him that probably wasn't going to happen.

    He called me the next day and conceded that I was right in my prediction. I then gave him a prediction for the next election. I said there wasn't going to be a "next election".

    I still could be right. Would be happy if I'm wrong, but everything about this presidency has gone exactly how I've imagined so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    I remember talking to my Dad on election night, he lives in the states. They were getting ready to have a victory party to celebrate Hillarys win. I told him that probably wasn't going to happen.

    He called me the next day and conceded that I was right in my prediction. I then gave him a prediction for the next election. I said there wasn't going to be a "next election".
    sure, just like you knew who mercer was before the US election.

    lying sack of shit.

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    Trumpís debate clash with Biden was a national embarrassment

    Last night's presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden started amicably enough. Both men strolled on stage, Trump wearing a red and blue striped tie, ready to battle. Joseph 'Average Joe' Biden greeted the president with a 'How are you, man?'

    From that point on, the debate quickly degenerated into one of the most despicable, embarrassing clown acts Americans have ever seen on national television. It took about 20 minutes before Biden, visibly exasperated by Trumpís badgering and interrupting, pleaded with his opponent across the debate hall to 'please shut up.' When the whole thing wrapped up about 90 minutes later, moderator Chris Wallace had a sore throat, newscasters were aghast, and the tens millions of Americans who spent their night watching likely went to bed saddened and aggrieved.

    We all know how Trump acts. He is bullying and domineering. He refuses to accept any responsibility whatsoever for his actions, preferring to distract from the problem. He embellishes his record (like most politicians, by the way) and peddles falsehoods. This is what the American public have gotten used to over the last three and a half years; some like it, many others hate it. But even the presidentís strongest supporters may have been surprised at the venom Trump spewed Bidenís way ó visibly going after the former vice presidentís son, who he attempted to castigate as a criminal and a swindler. The strategy of attack, attack, attack didnít work for him tonight ó not necessarily because Biden chalked up a good performance himself, but rather because Trump executed it in the most aggressive way imaginable.


    If you were looking for substance during this shout-fest, you came to the wrong show. While the debate was divided into six sections, the issues were largely gobbled up by the childish antics. Trump spent about as much time talking about his crowd sizes as he did on his plan to extinguish the Covid-19 epidemic that continues to claim the lives of Americans every single day (over 200,000 Americans have died from the virus). When asked whether there was a problem with policing around the country, Trump sidestepped the question, bragged about all of the endorsements he received from police unions, and painted Biden as a far-left Antifa radical who would spend the first day of his hypothetical presidency burning down police stations with a smile on his face. The closest Americans got to an answer from either candidate was Bidenís call for accountability, which is a recommendation people have heard since the dawn of man.


    Biden tried to play the sentimental man on stage. Standing next to Trump, it wasnít a hard role. The former vice president and longtime senator was at his best when the discussion turned to Covid-19. Asked for a plan, Biden talked about the need to ensure every sector of society, particularly schools, had the personal protective equipment and supplies they needed to prepare for a full reopening. At one point during the exchange, Biden looked directly into the camera, addressed the Americans who have lost a love ones to the disease, and told them things would eventually turn around.


    Even Biden, however, lost his temper on numerous occasions ó an understandable emotional reaction to an opponent interrupting every five seconds. 'Donald, can you just be quiet for a minute,' he asked Trump at the very beginning of the debate. His blood boiling, Biden called the President 'a clown' at least twice. Never before can I recall a challenger telling the sitting president of the United States that he is "the 'worst' the country has ever had. It happened tonight.


    None of this even begins to mention Trumpís allegations about widespread voter fraud (unproven) and his assertion that mailmen were selling ballots for cash.


    Between now and Election Day in America, Trump and Biden will meet for two more debates. Normally, I would be excited for both of them. But after tonight, I may very well turn the TV off for the remainder of the race.


    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...-embarrassment

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Between now and Election Day in America, Trump and Biden will meet for two more debates.
    probably.

    but we'll have to wait and see.

    a very good argument could be made for biden not to participate if debate rules are not changed, clearly stated to both campaigns and (most importantly) enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    sure, just like you knew who mercer was before the US election.

    lying sack of shit.
    You just googled his name, didn't you?

    Don't care what you think ray, I'm either right or I'm happy. But I think idiots like you are going to soon understand what the 2nd ammendment is really about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    You just googled his name, didn't you?
    do a forum search, you lying sack of shit.......i posted about the mercers in 2017.

    but hey, you posted today that you knew who they were before the US election, right?

    but in 2017 you posted that you just learned of them that day.

    you're a lying sack of shit.

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