Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

Originally Posted by Norton

A Biden/Harris ticket is a good one on paper but neither may survive the primaries. Think much grief ahead for Dems with so many candidates with so different political agendas. Heard $20mil will be needed to come out top dog or dogess. Sad reality is, will boil down to who can get the big donations.

It's all about the money, which is all about the lobying. Sad. That's not democracy.

Originally Posted by Norton

Think much grief ahead for Dems with so many candidates with so different political agendas.

there will be some 'grief', especially after the summer ends and the intensity picks up...but most of the candidates will drop out quickly...

the bottom tier is ~ a third of the field who have little to no chance and probably won't make it out of iowa

yang
delaney
gabbard
williamson
inslee
messam
ryan
gravel

and the there's one tier up who will drop out after NH...and SC if they're stubborn

booker
moulton
hickenlooper
castro
swawell
gillibrand

that will leave only top tier candidates (who will fit on one debate stage) for the rest of the campaign.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

So Harry was having a laugh.

No shit, sherlock.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Biden and AOC I reckon. As long as he can keep his hands off her shoulders and avoid sniffing her hair.

My recollection of some other posts were that AOC too young to be President.

The VP is a heartbeat away from being the President.

So, does AOC qualify to be a VP?

Originally Posted by David48atTD

My recollection of some other posts were that AOC too young to be President.

The VP is a heartbeat away from being the President.

So, does AOC qualify to be a VP?

Of course not. She's 29.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

Everyone is talking about the Democratic field and assuming on trump getting the Republican nomination. Let's not forget Bill Weld he is intelligent, educated, articulate, reasonable and politically astute.. trump will not have an easy time with him in the primary.
I always liked Biden , if he had run instead of Hillary, we will not be looking at this trump mess now.
If Weld gets the Republican nomination and Biden the democratic, even though one is a republican and the other a democrat , I will have a hard time choosing between them , both good man that would make fine presidents.

A Republican president again? Have they not done enough damage already for you?

Has everyone forgotten the last Republican bust already?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Has everyone forgotten the last Republican bust already?

was there any republican candidate in 2016 that was not a repugnant slimeball ?

Originally Posted by baldrick

was there any republican candidate in 2016 that was not a repugnant slimeball ?

Nope.

maybe george pataki.

maybe.

Originally Posted by baldrick

was there any republican candidate in 2016 that was not a repugnant slimeball ?

That wasn't my point. My point is that ,even if they get a "nice" candidate, he'll still be signing the tax cuts, deregulation and other slimeball legislation that created the last mess.

interesting data on biden's electability:

Originally Posted by raycarey

interesting data on biden's electability

It is interesting and it is a pretty safe assumption that Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania will decide who the next president will be. Being that Trump won those three states by only 77,000 combined votes and that they have been reliably democratic over the last thirty years I say his odds as well as Bernies are good.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Being that Trump won those three states by only 77,000 combined votes

it's so important to remember this when thinking about 2020.

77,000 votes is not difficult to get back in those states.

this is why i support the idea of endless investigations and hearings(but not impeachment)....these will wear down the lukewarm trump supporters to the point where they don't go to the polls because they're sick and tired of the drama....impeachment will only rile them up.

the dems need to funnel as much money as possible into 'get out the vote' programs to ensure turnout of their base.

dems also need to:
-put their ticket on the ground in those states all the time....i don't want to say everyday, but close to it.
-run a ceaseless stream of negative ads on every TV station. all day everyday. use superpac money to get it done.
-go back to vocally supporting union workers.
-point out trump's failure to improve the opioid crisis
-run on health care as a right
-run on a federal level livable minimum wage


they also need to do the same in MN. even though clinton won it in 16, they have to win it again in 20

Originally Posted by raycarey

use superpac money to get it done.

What's 'superpac money' money?

i'm not here to hold your hand, newbie dave.

Originally Posted by raycarey

77,000 votes is not difficult to get back in those states.

Hence my post.

Originally Posted by raycarey

this is why i support the idea of endless investigations and hearings(but not impeachment

He won't be impeached so I do not think that is an issue at this point even though he should be as he is clearly guilty of obstruction.

Originally Posted by raycarey

i'm not here to hold your hand, newbie dave.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

'superpac money'

Here you go noober....

https://represent.us/action/citizens-united-2-2/

^ Thanks

Originally Posted by David48atTD

What's 'superpac money' money?

It's what Elizabeth Warren said she will refuse to get involved in, but would happily watch being spent if it comes to it.

Saw a poll today, in Arizona Trump loses to Biden but Sanders loses to Trump. I suspect this might be the case in Florida, Ohio and several others.

Beats me how this is not a criminal offence.

A 21-year-old college student named Hunter Kelly published a Medium post on Monday alleging that South Bend, Indiana, Mayor and 2020 presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg had sexually assaulted him earlier this year.


But Kelly told The Daily Beast on Monday that he didn't write the post and that the allegations, which didn't include any specifics and are uncorroborated, were false.

Separately, an anonymous Republican source told The Daily Beast that conservative lobbyist Jack Burkman and the internet-famous conspiracy theorist Jacob Wohl have attemped to persuade multiple conservative young men to lodge false sexual asssault allegations against Buttigieg, who is openly gay.

https://www.businessinsider.com/pete...19-4?r=US&IR=T