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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    I’m gonna have to stop reading this thread or watching the news. My blood pressure rises too much when I think Trump would cause such chaos that he will be president again.
    Misskit, this is all a squeaky wheel syndrome. They are a loud minority screaming out for attention. most of the people arrested and charged are white college educated cucks, they are not the majority of America. The only thing Trump has to do with it is that he will not back down to them. He will not kneel for them. Get it?

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    The one thing that I find amazing is that after seeing the USA overthrow so many governments with the use of Clowns In America and Georgie boy, that they think they can do it with the same MO in the USA. Get ready all of you living in America, a colored revolution is coming, its about keeping America as a constitutional republic or a member of the global empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Misskit, this is all a squeaky wheel syndrome. They are a loud minority screaming out for attention. most of the people arrested and charged are white college educated cucks, they are not the majority of America. The only thing Trump has to do with it is that he will not back down to them. He will not kneel for them. Get it?
    You nitwit. Really.

    Trump stirring up chaos about the actual voting is what concerns me. That he is preparing to hold on to power by insisting he is the winner while the votes are still being counted. That he will not concede if he loses. That he will hang up the election results in the Supreme Court.

    That second post is a right laugh. The fact that there is a group of Americans so stupid to think like this concerns me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    You nitwit. Really.

    Trump stirring up chaos about the actual voting is what concerns me. That he is preparing to hold on to power by insisting he is the winner while the votes are still being counted. That he will not concede if he loses. That he will hang up the election results in the Supreme Court.

    That second post is a right laugh. The fact that there is a group of Americans so stupid to think like this concerns me.
    You do know that the handover of the Presidency actually happens on in 2021 right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    You do know that the handover of the Presidency actually happens on in 2021 right?

    All outgoing Presidents are Presidents until the inauguration right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    You nitwit. Really.

    Trump stirring up chaos about the actual voting is what concerns me. That he is preparing to hold on to power by insisting he is the winner while the votes are still being counted. That he will not concede if he loses. That he will hang up the election results in the Supreme Court.

    That second post is a right laugh. The fact that there is a group of Americans so stupid to think like this concerns me.
    Im not an American, Im a concerned foreign onlooker, that reads unbiased news reports and can see that over the last 10 years external influences have invested vast sums of money into American politics, especially local DA's. Infact I knew about this back in 2014 by watching a certain news show on youtube, Just saying that they predicted the letting out of crooks 6 years ago. and now, they are letting out crooks that have even killed people on their release, or they have beaten people on their release, or they have shot people on their release or they have returned to the the riots, on and on and on, And if i was you, I would not be concerned about the gun totin flag loving Americans, I would be concerned about the BLM or Antifa activests, Just stop and think about that!!!!

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    Republicans break with Trump over peaceful transition of power


    But the GOP isn't saying what they'll do if the president resists leaving office.


    Congressional Republicans say that if President Donald Trump loses the election there will be a peaceful transition. But they’re not explaining how, even as the president threatens to upend the constitutional order.


    While Republicans gently pushed back Thursday against Trump’s refusal this week to commit to a peaceful transition of power, most declined to say what they would do if the president refuses to leave office, dismissing it as a hypothetical situation.

    But Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), a vocal critic of the president, said he has faith his Republican colleagues will step up if they need to.


    "There's no question ... that all the people who had sworn to support the Constitution would assure that there would be a peaceful transition of power, including the president,” Romney said.


    Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.) added that his party would not stand idly by if Trump tried to stay in office after losing: "Republicans believe in the rule of law and we believe in the Constitution. And that's what dictates our election process."


    Hill Republicans argued Thursday morning that this year’s election would be no different than previous ones and reiterated that the Constitution guarantees that whoever loses must cede the presidency. But no one condemned Trump directly by name, and they declined to weigh in on whether it was appropriate for the president to suggest he won’t leave office.


    "The winner of the November 3rd election will be inaugurated on January 20th," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. "There will be an orderly transition just as there has been every four years since 1792."

    MORE Republicans break with Trump over peaceful transition of power - POLITICO

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    This is a fun interactive map, Especially if you use rasmussan polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Im not an American, Im a concerned foreign onlooker, that reads unbiased news reports and can see that over the last 10 years external influences have invested vast sums of money into American politics, especially local DA's. Infact I knew about this back in 2014 by watching a certain news show on youtube, Just saying that they predicted the letting out of crooks 6 years ago. and now, they are letting out crooks that have even killed people on their release, or they have beaten people on their release, or they have shot people on their release or they have returned to the the riots, on and on and on, And if i was you, I would not be concerned about the gun totin flag loving Americans, I would be concerned about the BLM or Antifa activests, Just stop and think about that!!!!
    You should STOP thinking about it.
    What threat do antifa activists pose? Think about that. It's all hype.

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    ^ Exactly. Not to mention, BLM and Antifa have nothing to do with the elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    How old are you Bowie? Cause it turns out.......
    Nope, not me, haven't hit the 65 number yet, in the future, although not the far future.

    But, as a resident of Thailand, why should I care what Donald Trump says?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ Exactly. Not to mention, BLM and Antifa have nothing to do with the elections.
    Other than the effect on voters’ perceptions of the state of the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    You should STOP thinking about it.
    What threat do antifa activists pose? Think about that. It's all hype.
    Antifa are the the group that are infiltrating BLM and causing the violence, Ask yourslf one question? when did a peaceful protest have people dressed in all black and masks and shields and helmets? Just look at old videos of them.

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    Look guy's, Im comming from the 40'000 foot view ok, I dont have to work, im retired, i can watch all the shit on my tv all day. my wife is off working and i can coutch potato for hours, i can see it non stop, all some of you are getting is a narrative from the MSM, it was only about 12 days ago that CNN said "this is hurting Biden in the polls'' that they finally came out against the riots, before that they were promoting bail for them, they were even helping to bail them out. And remember just 2-3 weeks ago it was all peacefull protests, then when they realise it is bad for polling now they say "this is Trumps America" WTF, Honestly, get the view from here and its so obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Look guy's, Im comming from the 40'000 foot view ok, I dont have to work, im retired, i can watch all the shit on my tv all day. my wife is off working and i can coutch potato for hours, i can see it non stop, all some of you are getting is a narrative from the MSM, it was only about 12 days ago that CNN said "this is hurting Biden in the polls'' that they finally came out against the riots, before that they were promoting bail for them, they were even helping to bail them out. And remember just 2-3 weeks ago it was all peacefull protests, then when they realise it is bad for polling now they say "this is Trumps America" WTF, Honestly, get the view from here and its so obvious.
    But so what? Again, what threat are they to American democracy. You do stand by American democracy don't you deeks? You do believe in it, that at it's heart it's a good thing, right?
    Here's something for you to read.

    This is what an American coup looks like

    President Trump's campaign is reportedly in discussion with state and national Republicans to "bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority." At least that's the report from a terrifying article written by Barton Gellman in The Atlantic. While this scenario is somewhat far-fetched, we should be clear that what Gellman describes here is tantamount to a coup, a complete break with the constitutional order that would unquestionably precipitate large-scale unrest and potentially the crackup of the United States. Could it actually happen?

    Trump has been clumsily telegraphing this plot for months — not generally the smartest way to overthrow a government, which is best done in secret. It would unfold like this: The election result is closer than expected, and the ultimate winner remains unknown on election night, with millions of mail-in ballots to be counted in the decisive swing states. Trump declares victory when the (incomplete) election night count favors him, and then launches legal maneuvering to force states to stop counting mail-in ballots, papered over with some feeble pretext about the fraud the president himself keeps encouraging his own supporters to commit. Thanks to post-2010 gerrymandering, Republicans control both houses of the state legislature in nearly every contested state, and the president would presumably direct them to pass laws certifying Trump's slate of electors, even if updated counts show Democratic candidate Joe Biden ahead. Et voila, a second Trump term
    This is what an American coup looks like
    If we stop testing right now wed have very few cases, if any. Donald J Trump.

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    (cont'd)

    Mail balloting procedures are fully legal in all states that use them, so asking Republican legislatures either to stop the counting of ballots cast under agreed-upon procedures, or to certify a totally different winner than the people chose, is nothing short of extra-judicial election theft. It should not ultimately be a legal question. And in a healthy democracy, these efforts would not come before the courts at all nor should they be casually floated by a sitting president as the plan. Any attempt to do so is no different than having Biden and his vice presidential pick, Kamala Harris, abducted and dropped out of a helicopter. A slightly better ending for the two of them, I suppose, but the functional outcome for the rest of us would be identical: an election stolen brazenly by unapologetic authoritarians who would no longer have any check whatsoever on their rule.

    But the invidious plot that Republicans are hatching in plain sight has multiple legal problems. The first and most obvious is that state legislatures play no clear post-election role in certifying slates of electors from the states. While state electoral laws and procedures are written by legislatures, they cannot simply change the law without the cooperation of the governor. The critical swing states of Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin have Democratic governors who would not sign any such legislation, and many key battlegrounds also have Democratic secretaries of state. It is that chief election officer, a Democrat in all four states above plus Arizona, who administers the election and prepares the paperwork for the governor to send to Congress.

    This is not to say that they might not try anyway, but they would have minimal legal basis for the effort. If Biden and Harris are ahead in the vote, or even if Republican saboteurs maliciously tie everything up in court until the "safe harbor" deadline six days before the electors are supposed to meet in their respective state capitals on December 14th, those Democratic governors can simply certify the Biden/Harris slate. On the other hand, any scenario that involves a close election in Florida, with its Republican legislature and governor, is one where state Republicans could potentially rewrite the law or certify Trump's slate of electors even if the election results show Biden and Harris ahead.

    But that's not the end of the story. America's election process has one more truly Byzantine step. On January 6th — three days after the new Congress is sworn in (but two weeks before the new president and vice president take office) — the House and Senate gather in a joint session to count and certify the results sent by the states. Let's say it all comes down to Wisconsin, which Biden has won by 13,000 votes, and Democratic Governor Tony Evers sends the Biden/Harris slate to Congress to be counted. But the GOP state legislature attempts to certify (again: with no legal basis whatsoever!) the Trump/Pence slate and send their own electors to D.C. Or perhaps the GOP-dominated state supreme court orders the Trump/Pence electors be certified, but Evers refuses to comply and sends his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    (cont'd)

    Mail balloting procedures are fully legal in all states that use them, so asking Republican legislatures either to stop the counting of ballots cast under agreed-upon procedures, or to certify a totally different winner than the people chose, is nothing short of extra-judicial election theft. It should not ultimately be a legal question. And in a healthy democracy, these efforts would not come before the courts at all nor should they be casually floated by a sitting president as the plan. Any attempt to do so is no different than having Biden and his vice presidential pick, Kamala Harris, abducted and dropped out of a helicopter. A slightly better ending for the two of them, I suppose, but the functional outcome for the rest of us would be identical: an election stolen brazenly by unapologetic authoritarians who would no longer have any check whatsoever on their rule.

    But the invidious plot that Republicans are hatching in plain sight has multiple legal problems. The first and most obvious is that state legislatures play no clear post-election role in certifying slates of electors from the states. While state electoral laws and procedures are written by legislatures, they cannot simply change the law without the cooperation of the governor. The critical swing states of Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin have Democratic governors who would not sign any such legislation, and many key battlegrounds also have Democratic secretaries of state. It is that chief election officer, a Democrat in all four states above plus Arizona, who administers the election and prepares the paperwork for the governor to send to Congress.

    This is not to say that they might not try anyway, but they would have minimal legal basis for the effort. If Biden and Harris are ahead in the vote, or even if Republican saboteurs maliciously tie everything up in court until the "safe harbor" deadline six days before the electors are supposed to meet in their respective state capitals on December 14th, those Democratic governors can simply certify the Biden/Harris slate. On the other hand, any scenario that involves a close election in Florida, with its Republican legislature and governor, is one where state Republicans could potentially rewrite the law or certify Trump's slate of electors even if the election results show Biden and Harris ahead.

    But that's not the end of the story. America's election process has one more truly Byzantine step. On January 6th — three days after the new Congress is sworn in (but two weeks before the new president and vice president take office) — the House and Senate gather in a joint session to count and certify the results sent by the states. Let's say it all comes down to Wisconsin, which Biden has won by 13,000 votes, and Democratic Governor Tony Evers sends the Biden/Harris slate to Congress to be counted. But the GOP state legislature attempts to certify (again: with no legal basis whatsoever!) the Trump/Pence slate and send their own electors to D.C. Or perhaps the GOP-dominated state supreme court orders the Trump/Pence electors be certified, but Evers refuses to comply and sends his own.
    Cujo, The bloke that wrote this article (with all the links) is the guy that they threatened to "execute".
    The Coming Coup? - The American Mind

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    Who's 'they'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Who's 'they'?
    OH ffs, just google it,
    Dear Berggruen Institute: Renounce Death Threats Now - The American Mind

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    Regardless. Never mind the messenger, what about the message?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Cujo, The bloke that wrote this article (with all the links) is the guy that they threatened to "execute".
    How do you come to that conclusion? Cujo provided a link to the article and the authors name can be found there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Regardless. Never mind the messenger, what about the message?
    JFC dude will you quit encouraging the clueless fooking idiot?!?!?!?!

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    I'm trying to wake the idiot up to the fact he's been duped.
    Hes a Turkey voting for Thanksgiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    This is a fun interactive map, Especially if you use rasmussan polls.

    Swing the Election
    Rasmussen polls are shit. They are always bent +5 or more in baldy orange cunto's favour.

    Which means baldy's situtation is even worse than the aggregate polls show.

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    It's actually quite hilarious that Rasmussen think intelligent people would take them seriously. Although in fairness they aren't doing it for intelligent people.

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    Trump again says he may not abide by election results

    WASHINGTON - President Donald Trump reiterated Thursday that he may not honor the results should he lose reelection, reaffirming his extraordinary refusal to commit to a peaceful transition of power and prompting election and law enforcement authorities nationwide to prepare for an unprecedented constitutional crisis.


    Trump escalated his months-long campaign to undermine the legitimacy of the Nov. 3 election with a series of comments Wednesday that, taken together and at face value, pose his most substantial threat yet to the nation's history of free and fair elections.

    In recent days, the president cast doubt on the integrity of vote totals. He said he might not accept the results if they show him losing to Democratic nominee Joe Biden. He said it was imperative to quickly fill the Supreme Court vacancy created by the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg because the nation's high court could determine the winner of the election.


    And when asked directly whether he would commit to a "peaceful transition of power," Trump responded, "We're going to have to see what happens." He went on to suggest that authorities "get rid of the ballots," an apparent reference to the huge uptick in votes cast by mail amid the coronavirus pandemic, adding that, if they did, "there won't be a transfer [of power], frankly. There will be a continuation."


    Trump reaffirmed his views Thursday, saying on Fox News Radio that he would agree with a Supreme Court ruling that Biden won the election but that short of a court decision, the vote count would amount to "a horror show" because of fraudulent ballots. There is no evidence of widespread fraud.

    MORE Trump again says he may not abide by election results - Houston Chronicle

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