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    Fox News Poll

    All results are for release 9:00AM/ET Sunday, September 13, 2020.

    https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.c...13-Release.pdf


    Though more people think he will win again, Trump gets trounced on every question except law and order. If election held today, Biden wins.

    Questions 15 & 16 - More people think Biden is mentally sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    The pattern is that of american party politics.

    Republicans say no to democrat proposals and viseversa

    They are all very childish and should be trown out,.. if something better is on the shelves overthere.


    But it won't happen in a two party dictatorship

    Ok you and i agree, Now toss your mind back to 2017 when Trump was inaugurated, and think about how many republicans left the party or who Trump opposed.

    Here is a clue.
    101 House Republicans have lost reelection or left Congress since Trump took office

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    ^My point being that the Demonrats are still the same oll same oll. at least the the Rino's are mostly gone, save a few in the senate.

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    3. When you think about voting for president this year, which is the bigger motivation?[ROTATE 1-2]Enthusiasm for yourcandidate to win. Fear the othercandidate might win

    Have a look
    The lesser evil thing



    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.c...13-Release.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    the Demonrats are still the same oll same oll
    You forgetting AOC ?????

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    ...In other more fact based realities...

    Mike Bloomberg to spend at least $100 million in Florida to benefit Joe Biden


    Former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg plans to spend at least $100 million in Florida to help elect Democrat Joe Biden, a massive late-stage infusion of cash that could reshape the presidential contest in a costly toss-up state central to President Trump’s reelection hopes.Bloomberg made the decision to focus his final election spending on Florida last week, after news reports that Trump had considered spending as much as $100 million of his own money in the final weeks of the campaign, Bloomberg’s advisers said. Presented with several options on how to make good on an earlier promise to help elect Biden, Bloomberg decided that a narrow focus on Florida was the best use of his money.

    The president’s campaign has long treated the state, which Trump now calls home, as a top priority, and his advisers remain confident in his chances given strong turnout in 2016 and 2018 that gave Republicans narrow winning margins in statewide contests.

    “Voting starts on Sept. 24 in Florida so the need to inject real capital in that state quickly is an urgent need,” said Bloomberg adviser Kevin Sheekey. “Mike believes that by investing in Florida it will allow campaign resources and other Democratic resources to be used in other states, in particular the state of Pennsylvania.”

    The last Republican to win the White House without Florida was Calvin Coolidge in 1924, and a loss of the state’s 29 electoral votes would radically shrink Trump’s paths to reelection. With Florida in his column, Biden would be able to take the presidency by holding every state that Hillary Clinton won in 2016 and winning any one of the following states: Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and North Carolina, all of which Biden leads in current public polling averages.

    In response to the Florida commitment, Trump attacked Bloomberg on Sunday morning, mocking his performance in the Democratic primary debates earlier this year. “I thought Mini Mike was through with Democrat politics,” Trump wrote on Twitter.

    “Save NYC instead,” he added.

    In recent weeks, polls in Florida have narrowed, with the Cook Political Report recently shifting the state from “lean Democrat” to “toss up.” A Washington Post average of public polls since August finds Biden up by one percentage point in the state, well within the margin of error. While he has been doingbetter than past Democratic candidateswith Whites and seniors, Biden has struggled among the state’s Latino population, which Republicans have focused enormous resources on courting over several election cycles.

    “If you have the ability to make sure that you are able to speak directly to all of these different communities and where they live then you are going a long way to securing the states for Biden in this election,” Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) said. “I’m glad that Mike Bloomberg recognized this and is prepared to make an investment to make sure that every one of those communities will be aware of the importance of this election.”

    The spending will focus mostly on television and digital ads, in both English and Spanish.

    Bloomberg’s aim is to prompt enough early voting that a pro-Biden result would be evident soon after the polls close.Florida, unlike other swing states, reports almost all early ballots shortly aftervoting ends.

    Democrats and Republicans have worried that early results will dictate public perceptions of who will ultimately win the election. In many states, the first reported votes are more Republican, but the numbers turn more Democratic over time as more mail-in and early votes are added to the tally.

    “It would give lie to what we expect to be Trump’s election night messaging that Democrats are stealing the election, because unlike other battleground states, Florida counts its absentee ballots on or by Election Day,” Bloomberg adviser Howard Wolfson said. “We think Florida is incredibly close but winnable.”

    A recent report by Hawkfish, a voter data firm funded by Bloomberg, predicted that even in a scenario where Biden wins 54 percent of the final vote, partisan differences in mail voting preference could lead to an initial count that shows Trump winning with 55 percent of ballots tabulated nationally on Nov. 3. In public polling, Republican voters have reported far less interest in voting by mail or voting early than Democrats.

    A prominent Democratic consultant in Florida, not aware of the Bloomberg decision, said Saturday that Democratic outside groups have mostly focused on Midwestern states because of the prohibitive cost of advertising in Florida. This person,speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss strategy, estimated that it would take $15 million to $20 million to significantly move Biden’s numbers among Latinos, and $60 million to $70 million to get on television across the state over the next 51 days and have a real impact.

    Between March 24 and Sept. 11, the Biden campaign and Democratic groups outspent Trump and Republican groups in the state on televisionby a margin of $42 million to $32 million, according to data from a Democratic tracking firm. But future reservations suggest that gap is set to narrow, in part because of increased investment by wealthy Trump backers operating independently of his campaign.

    Preserve America, a new super PACexpected to be backed by Las Vegas casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, announced $30 million in spending in seven states this month, including Florida, with more spending expected to be announced soon. The group has not disclosed its donors.

    Bloomberg’s advisers described the spending plan as “nine figures” and declined to say how much higher than $100 million Bloomberg might be willing to go, if at all. They said Bloomberg is hopeful that his commitment will push other wealthy Democratic donors to further open their pocketbooks for other states in the final months of the campaign. Bloomberg’s money will be spent through Independence USA, his own super PAC, and other Democratic groups.

    Between November and March, Bloomberg spent more $1 billion on his own failed bid for the Democratic nomination, including about $275 million on ads that criticized Trump. When he endorsed Joe Biden, he announcedthat he would“work to make him the next President of the United States.” Bloomberg subsequently received a prime speaking slot on the final night of the Democratic convention this year.

    But just what Bloomberg, who is estimated to be worth more than $50 billion, planned to do with his money has remained a significant source of suspense among Democratic strategists. After flooding local and state Democratic Party accounts with money during his campaign, Bloomberg transferred about $20 million in cash and prepaid office leases to the Democratic National Committee, taking advantage of a provision of campaign finance law that allows candidates to donate leftover money. He also spread his money to benefit state and local Democratic candidates.

    A group he helps to fund, Everytown for Gun Safety, has pledged to spend $60 million on elections this cycle, and he has committed another $60 million to help preserve or strengthen the Democratic House majority. Swing Left, a group focused on winning state legislative seats, and Fair Fight, a voter protection effort led by former Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams, have also received millions. Bloomberg has not yet announced any spending to help elect a Democratic Senate, after allotting $20 million to the effort in 2018.

    The former New York mayor, a onetime Republican and independent who changed his voter registration to Democratic in 2018, has also given an additional $35 million to Hawkfish, which is working to improve voter targeting with independent groups on the Democratic side. The group combines voter file data with expensive consumer data, in an effort to better assist Democrats in targeting and turning out voters.

    Through Hawkfish, advisers said, Bloomberg has also quietly funded other distinct programs with multimillion-dollar budgets, including an effort with Unite the Country, a pro-Biden super PAC, to launch a digital campaign targeting 400,000 veterans in battleground states like Pennsylvania and Florida.

    A separate Hawkfish program, with a nonprofit called the Collective Education Fund, is targeting digital ads to communities of color in an effort focused on major cities in key states, including Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee and Detroit.

    “The bottom line is when you have additional resources, you can solidify your voters and then communicate with those who are still on the fence for some reason,” Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.) said. “One hundred million can do just that.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...b9f_story.html

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    What a great turnout, This guy has so much support and love from peaceful protesters that no-one burns and loots lol.


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    Spreading the virus everywhere he goes....

    And ironically it will be the viral carnage he's caused that will probably cost him his job (if you can call spending all morning doing your make up and tweeting, and all afternoon playing golf a "job").

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    lol.
    drugs - lol

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    Where did that vote Trump or Biden who will win the election Thread go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Where did that vote Trump or Biden who will win the election Thread go?
    Speakers Corner

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    How is Joe's rally goin?

    Trump visits Freeland and battle for Michigan heats up - YouTube

    Compare and laugh.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QFSIe8K-rk
    Last edited by deeks; 14-09-2020 at 03:45 AM. Reason: comparison

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    Is this a Biden or Trump rally line up?


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    ^ Ok now I understand why you hate him, I mean like look at all those AMERICANS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Is this a Biden or Trump rally line up?
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    ^ Ok now I understand why you hate him, I mean like look at all those AMERICANS.
    You're making a fool of yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You're making a fool of yourself
    Im an Aussie that loves AMERICA, so to you that may be embarrassing, especially if you are Pommy, I voted for independence in 1999. And im sure if that vote won you would be doubly embarrassed if you are a Pomm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Im an Aussie that loves AMERICA
    Yea, except you're not and 'AMERICA' consists of two continents. And it's not 'that' it's 'who', but you're not so it isn't.




    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    so to you that may be embarrassing
    I couldn't give a shit in that respect. You're making a fool of yourself - or are you too dense to understand basic English:
    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You're making a fool of yourself
    You are referencing yourself and arguing with yourself in your 'foam at the mouth desperation' to pretend something you're not.
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    ^ Ok now I understand why you hate him, I mean like look at all those AMERICANS.
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    especially if you are Pommy
    So, more proof that you're dense

    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    I voted for independence in 1999
    The referendum had nothing to do with 'Independence' - another sign that you're not an Aussie. We are independent in all but a figurehead with no power - taken away since the Whitlam farce

    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    And im sure if that vote won you would be doubly embarrassed if you are a Pomm.
    Again,I couldn't give a shit. You're quite wrapped up in what others think, aren't you, trying to convince everyone you're an Aussie, but you've made too many slip-ups.

    Who says/writes it as "Pomm" or "Pommy"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    You're making a fool of yourself - or are you too dense to understand basic English
    It is a reoccurring thing with these trumpanzees.


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    Trump 2020. Make America Great Again. Build That Wall. Keep America Great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It is a reoccurring thing with these trumpanzees.
    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Trump 2020. Make America Great Again. Build That Wall. Keep America Great.
    Yup - some cheap liquor, yabba-ed up seppo setptuagenarian. Go for it, deeks and keep lying to yourself . . . and others

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    Polls tend to be accurate so if election was held now, Biden would win but I think a good number of folks will decide at polling time. Should be an interesting 4 Nov. Followed by several interesting weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Biden would win but I think a good number of folks will decide at polling time.
    Yes some will but I think that due to the fact that there is going to be more mail-in voting than before I think a lot of people will be voting early. I know I will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeks View Post
    Trump 2020. Make America Great Again. Build That Wall. Keep America Great.
    Biden 2020. Make America America Again.
    Last edited by lom; 14-09-2020 at 07:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    american party politics...
    two party dictatorship
    That is the Machine - it has been developed over time and is now a perfected process. The USA political machine consists of 100 Senators, 435 Congressman and 1 President (talking head). Now, these 536 individuals control how the $3.5 Trillion in taxes collected are spent. That's about 6.5 billion per - What a job, eh?

    Now, our 536 individuals have basically lifetime jobs (see term limits below), only the Talking Head (President) has term limits. All the others have to do is continually campaign convincing their constituents how they are fighting for them and making their lives better. And, they are expert at it.

    The 536 individuals over time have engineered a wonderful divisive machine playing the two sides against each other. The parties are identical, the propaganda is the same, just change the names.

    It is a number one headlining show that has developed over time. It has a captive audience and it is pretty much perfected now. Should it be changed? of course. The people deserve politicians who are looking out for them, not just feathering their nests while collecting massive paychecks to discuss how to spend all that taxpayer money.

    Will it change? Highly doubtful. Congressional term limit legislation has been introduced and, of course, failed.


    Term limits in the United States - Wikipedia

    redacted - a long read

    In the 1994 elections, part of the
    Republican platform included legislation for term limits in Congress. After winning the majority, a Republican congressman brought a constitutional amendment to the House floor that proposed limiting members of the Senate to two six-year terms and members of the House to six two-year terms. However, this rate of rotation was so slow (the life-tenured Supreme Court averages in the vicinity of twelve years) that the congressional version of term-limits garnered little support among the populist backers of term limits, including U.S. Term Limits, the largest private organization pushing for congressional term limits. The bill got only a bare majority (227–204), falling short of the two-thirds majority (290) needed for constitutional amendments. Three other term limit amendment bills failed to get more than 200 votes.



    And the beat goes on...

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