Thread: American coup in Venezuela

Little shopping tip for you. I think it will suit you.

^ original Harry 555

That's two muppets that don't know how to post.

Where do we find them?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Little shopping tip for you. I think it will suit you.

thanks for the tip but shopping is not my cup of tea however STEM is.

Originally Posted by EKG

thanks for the tip but shopping is not my cup of tea however STEM is.

Nah . . . Harry is right

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by EKG
thanks for the tip but shopping is not my cup of tea however STEM is.
Nah . . . Harry is right

as usual same non scientific non points argued response.

aka snowflake pansy style

PH you know they just drag you down to their level and beat you with their sheer stupidity.

It's a pointless task.

Originally Posted by EKG

as usual same non scientific non points argued response.

Eh?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

PH you know they just drag you down to their level and beat you with their sheer stupidity.

You're not wrong there . . . still trying to figure out what EKG is trying to say

Originally Posted by panama hat

You're not wrong there . . . still trying to figure out what EKG is trying to say

I don't think it's worth the bother tbh

Venezuela says it foiled an incursion by ‘mercenaries’


Venezuela’s leftist government said Sunday it foiled an incursion from the sea, killing eight members of a group of alleged mercenaries bent on “terrorist acts” aimed at overthrowing President Nicolas Maduro.
Interior Minister Nestor Reverol said the group, which he said originated in Colombia, tried to land aboard fast boats before dawn in the northern coastal state of La Guaira but were intercepted by the military and special police units.


A massive air, sea and land search was underway for remnants of the attackers, he said.

Diosdado Cabello, deputy leader of the ruling Socialist Party, said later that clashes had so far resulted in “eight people dead and two detained.”
Cabello said the operation was “orchestrated” by the United States and its Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), with support from its staunch South American ally, Colombia.


He said one of those killed was Roberto Colina, a former Venezuelan army officer linked to retired general Cliver Alcala.

Alcala, a Maduro critic, hit the headlines in March when he surrendered to DEA agents in Colombia and was flown to New York after he was indicted along with a dozen others, including the president, on drug-trafficking charges.

One of the two people detained is a DEA agent, he said. ()
Venezuela says it foiled an incursion by ‘mercenaries’ – Raw Story


I wonder what we will get to read about this in the MSM. Let's keep watching, but it's pretty obvious that, having failed at other means, the US is trying to foment civil war & violent insurgency.

Originally Posted by sabang

I wonder what we will get to read about this in the MSM

At MSM, the news still haven't reach the newsreel. Instead, in order to serve balanced (and unbiased) news, they show hundreds links to:

"Third Russian doctor plunges from hospital window amid coronavirus outbreak"

(all the same wording...)

BTW, anybody found: "The 2nd Russian doctor", or "The 1st...?

All the Venezuelans have starved to death by now...right?

Originally Posted by SKkin

All the Venezuelans have starved to death by now...right?

Nah, once five million fucked off and the government bumped off a few thousand, they seem to be surviving on what they've got.

We have a few on our books. Lovely people.

If he wasn't dead, I'd say it's definitely Mad Mike Hoare running the show.

A bunch of clowns . . . probably trained by the CIA . . . thinking they'd overthrow a government with six men and a guide dog

Why not to try again? How many attempts were for Fidel?

Isn't it under control?

The Future of Venezuela: A Conversation with Special Representative Elliott Abrams

Ilhan Omar says US ‘helped lead devastation in Venezuela’ through regime change sanctions

Ms Omar says the US 'set the stage' for what is happening in Venezuela

2 May 2020

Ilhan Omar has blamed US foreign policy for the political unrest in Venezuela, arguing that America promotes regime change that is harmful to both the United States and the people in the countries targeted.

Ms Omar said as much during an appearance on the radio programme Democracy Now!, where she discussed US interventions in Central America broadly, and the long term impacts of US sanctions.

“You know, I mean, a lot of the policies that we have put in place has kind of helped lead the devastation in Venezuela. And we’ve sort of set the stage for where we’re arriving today,” Ms Omar said.


She continued: “This particular bullying and the use of sanctions to eventually intervene and make regime change really does not help the people of countries like Venezuela, and it certainly does not help and is not in the interest of the United States.”

Sanctions have been a key US foreign policy tool for several decades now, and the Trump administration has been notable in its heavy use of the measure.

In March, Mr Trump and his team — led by national security adviser John Bolton — implemented new sanctions on Venezuela in order to force Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro to relinquish his power to White House-favoured leader Juan Gauido, who has declared himself the rightful leader of the country.

Those sanctions, and Mr Guaido’s efforts, culminated this week in mass protests in Caracas, where violence was seen as Mr Guaido and Mr Maduro jostled for power.

Ms Omar, on Democracy Now!, discussed the US approach, and noted that the Trump administration’s special envoy to Venezuela, Elliott Abrams, had a “heavy hand in some of the most devastating policies that we imposed on Central America, and that there is a direct correlation between the kind of mass migration that we’re noticing right now from Central America and South America to this country.”


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Mr Abrams was previously convicted on two counts of withholding information from Congress related to the Iran-Contra affair, but was pardoned by George HW Bush.

“People like Elliott Abrams, neo-cons and warmongers, you know, for so long have pushed for policies that are now—we can see, not only in Central America, but many parts of the world, the kind of devastations that they’ve had for decades,” Ms Omar said.

Ilhan Omar says US ‘helped lead devastation in Venezuela’ through regime change sanctions | The Independent

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Ilhan Omar has blamed US foreign policy for the political unrest in Venezuela, arguing that America promotes regime change that is harmful to both the United States and the people in the countries targeted.

Just stating the obvious . . . from Chile to Iran to wherever they please. If it is in US economic, corporate, military or any interest . . .

Doesn't Maduro smoke (Havana) cigars? Send him a box, the left over prepared for Fidel...

Originally Posted by panama hat

Just stating the obvious . . . from Chile to Iran to wherever they please. If it is in US economic, corporate, military or any interest . . .

Normally I would assume a fucking clown show like this couldn't possibly be government sanctioned, but when you think of who is in charge....

Originally Posted by panama hat

Just stating the obvious . . . from Chile to Iran to wherever they please. If it is in US economic, corporate, military or any interest . . .

Yet, such is not in their interests or any of their business - if one really thinks about it.

How dare they?

Exclusive: Venezuela reaches deal with U.N. to buy food, medicine with gold - central bank

CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela has reached a deal with the U.N. Development Programme (UNDP) to destine part of its gold in Bank of England accounts toward the purchase of food and medicine during the coronavirus pandemic, its central bank governor said on Wednesday.

The deal comes after Venezuela’s central bank made a legal claim earlier this month to try to force the Bank of England to hand over part of the 31 tonnes of gold in accounts belonging to the government of President Nicolas Maduro, whom Britain does not recognize as Venezuela’s legitimate leader due to allegations he rigged his 2018 re-election.

Central bank Governor Calixto Ortega told Reuters that under the arrangement, the UNDP would receive the funds directly, a move meant to assuage concerns about potential corruption.

“It’s not my word, it’s not me saying that I am going to buy food, medicine and medical equipment,” Ortega said in an interview in his downtown Caracas office. “It’s the United Nations who is saying that. They are not going to be involved in anything dark that is not neutral and independent.”

Any program would still require the Bank of England to release the gold. The Bank of England declined to comment.

In a statement, the UNDP said it was “approached recently to explore mechanisms to use existing resources held by the Central Bank of Venezuela in financial institutions outside the country to fund the ongoing efforts to address the urgent humanitarian, health, and socioeconomic needs arising from the COVID-19 pandemic.”

Ortega said he was optimistic the legal case in Britain would be resolved in the coming weeks.

A six-year economic collapse in Venezuela has resulted in hyperinflation and shortages of basic goods, including food and medicines. Maduro blames U.S. sanctions on the OPEC nation’s oil industry for its woes.

While those sanctions have slashed cash flow to the government, critics say corruption and misguided economic policies are the root causes of the collapse.

Venezuela has so far been less affected than neighbors by the coronavirus pandemic, with 1,245 cases recorded and 11 deaths. But its hospitals are in disrepair after years of underfunding, prompting concerns about preparedness for a larger outbreak.

Exclusive: Venezuela reaches deal with U.N. to buy food, medicine with gold - central bank - Reuters

The EU recognises the Venezuel Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza.

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Joint communiqué between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and the EU Foreign Action Service

JOINT RELEASE

BOLIVARIAN REPUBLIC OF VENEZUELA

MINISTRY OF PEOPLE'S POWER FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS

EUROPEAN UNION FOREIGN ACTION SERVICE

The Ministry of Popular Power for Foreign Relations of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and the Foreign Action Service
of the European Union inform the international community that, today, the Minister of Popular Power for Foreign Relations of Venezuela, Jorge Arreaza, and The high representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Josep Borrell, held a telephone conversation in which they agreed on the need to maintain the framework of diplomatic relations, especially at times when cooperation between both parties can facilitate the paths of political dialogue.

Consequently, the Venezuelan Government decided to invalidate the decision made on June 29, 2020, by which Ambassador Isabel Brilhante Pedrosa, head of the European Union delegation in Caracas, was declared persona non grata. Both agreed to promote diplomatic contacts between the parties at the highest level, in the framework of sincere cooperation and respect for international law.

Consequently, the Venezuelan Government decided to invalidate the decision made on June 29, 2020, by which Ambassador Isabel Brilhante Pedrosa, head of the European Union delegation in Caracas, was declared persona non grata.

Both agreed to promote diplomatic contacts between the parties at the highest level, in the framework of sincere cooperation and respect for international law.

Caracas and Brussels, July 1, 2020

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Comunicado conjunto entre la Cancilleria de la Republica Bolivariana de Venezuela y el Servicio de Accion Exterior de la UE • Ministerio del Poder Popular para Relaciones Exteriores
An opinion article.

Venezuela Is On The Path To Make Colonialism Obsolete


6 July 2020

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"Venezuelans should revel in the fact that President Maduro has also scored an important victory. The EU bloc of countries recognised self-appointed Juan Guaido as “interim president” of Venezuela last January 2019. Nevertheless, this recent diplomatic tête-à-tête has forced Brussels to implicitly admit who the legitimate government of Venezuela is and to accept Caracas terms of negotiations. It is not clear whether the EU will rescind the latest set of “sanctions”, but that will not stop the Bolivarian process from standing up to the bullies and continuing its path to make colonialism obsolete.

"On June 29, the European Union (EU) slapped new sanctions against 11 Venezuelan individuals. President Nicolas Maduro immediatelyresponded by ordering the expulsion of the EU ambassador to the country. EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell warned that Brussels would retaliate against Caracas over its decision and announced that it will summon Maduro's ambassador to the European institutions. That never happened. Instead, Josep Borrell called on Venezuela to reverse its decision. On July 1, the Venezuelan government decided to rescind its decision to expel the head of the EU mission in Caracas following a phone conversation between Venezuela's Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza and the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, Josep Borrell, after which they issued a joint communiqué.

This sequence of events gives a diplomatic victory to the Maduro government. It may be the victory of a schoolyard bullied youth who stands up after every blow from the bully. The strikes should never have taken place to start with, but the cheers are for the courage and resistance shown.

The geopolitical world is not a schoolyard and the world gang of bullies strike with much deadlier blows that fists.

By all accounts, Venezuela has been under overt attack since 2014 by the U.S. hybrid war, just short of a military invasion. Other governments have been willing participants and accomplices by imposing their own share of threats and coercive measures (sanctions) against the Maduro government.

The latest set of “sanctions” imposed by Brussels on 11 Venezuelans has an additional peculiarity - some might say contradiction - of targeting individuals that are not aligned with Maduro or his governing United Socialist Party of Venezuela (Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela -- PSUV). For instance, Luis Parra was elected president of the National Assembly (AN) last January after being expelled from the Justice First party (Primero Justicia) headed by self-appointed “interim president” Juan Guaidó. AN first vice president Franklyn Duarte was elected by the Social Christian COPEI party. And Jose Gregorio Noriega, AN second vice president, was also expelled from the Justice First party and is in opposition to the ruling party.

What those individuals have in common is a willingness to be in dialogue and engage in democratic participation in the political life of Venezuela free of foreign interference. For that they are accused of being “Maduro-aligned” because President Nicolas Maduro has precisely the same goal. That is the real reason why they need to be punished by the EU as they were previously punished by Washington for their “actions undermining democracy”.

Nonetheless, the Council of the European Union, while recognising Juan Guaidó, issued the following press release: “The Council today [June 29] added 11 leading Venezuelan officials to the list of those subject to restrictive measures, because of their role in acts and decisions undermining democracy and the rule of law in Venezuela.” It should be noted that this is the same language used by the U.S. “sanctions”.
To further contradict the argument of an “undemocratic” and “dictatorial” Maduro government is the fact that it is the monolithic political group headed by Juan Guaidó that does not seem to have a large representation of diverse ideological positions. Those who do not subscribe to its ruthless main goal of ousting Maduro from the presidency by any means are summarily expelled from the party, like in the case of Luis Parra and others.

President Maduro’s assertive reaction to boot out the EU ambassador was fully justified for at least two reasons.
Heightened awareness about independence. Most Venezuelans have a deep-rooted sense of anti-colonialism based on their country's 209 years of independence with long oppressive periods of being a U.S. “backyard”. One of the legacies of Chavismo has been a re-awakening of that sense of self-determination that is now embedded in the cultural makeup of most Venezuelans.

This is in sharp contrast to the equally deep-rooted sense of colonialism that pervades the policies of most European countries. Maduro made this point very explicitly when he protested the EU interference in Venezuela’s internal decision about the composition of the country’s National Electoral Council (CNE). Maduro said: “Don't mess with Venezuela anymore. [Stay] away from Venezuela, European Union, enough of your colonialist point of view!” Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza concurred in a tweet, “[The EU] colonial heritage and reminiscence lead them through the abyss of illegality, aggression and persecution of our people.”

Intolerance towards any form of interference. The second reason related to the first one has to do with Venezuela’s intolerance towards any form of interference in the domestic affairs of the country. This is perhaps the biggest political gap between the Maduro Administration that is nationalist and a defender of sovereignty, and the Guaidó group that not only welcomes foreign intervention but actively invites it and is supported by it.

Venezuela abides quite fully by international law, especially to the United Nations Charter. No one can claim that Venezuela intervenes in the internal affairs of other countries. However, the U.S. blatantly circumvents international laws by issuing domestic Executive Orders or Acts of Congress that impose its extraterritorial self-appointed “right” on other nations. The numerous U.S. “sanctions” against Venezuela are enforced not only on U.S. entities but extraterritorially against non-U.S. entities often under use of threats. This is one of the most damaging forms of interference aside from a military invasion. The EU and Canada are not too far behind in their interference approach.

It was equally justified that President Maduro would rescind his decision.

It has never been the intention of Chavismo and its Bolivarian Revolution to confront and reject fair, meaningful, and respectful international relations. President Maduro has shown his resolve to that goal and, to his credit, has forced the EU to accept that resolve on this occasion. The joint communiqué concludes, “The Ministry of Popular Power for Foreign Relations of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and the Foreign Action Service of the European Union … agreed to promote diplomatic contacts between the parties at the highest level, in the framework of sincere cooperation and respect for international law.”

Perhaps Venezuelans should revel in the fact that President Maduro has also scored an important victory. The EU bloc of countries recognised self-appointed Juan Guaido as “interim president” of Venezuela last January 2019. Nevertheless, this recent diplomatic tête-à-tête has forced Brussels to implicitly admit who the legitimate government of Venezuela is and to accept Caracas terms of negotiations.

It is not clear whether the EU will rescind the latest set of “sanctions”, but that will not stop the Bolivarian process from standing up to the bullies and continuing its path to make colonialism obsolete."



By Nino Pagliccia"

Venezuelan-Canadian freelance writer and activist

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